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E-mail stirs fears of hijacking 'dry run' Airline response leaves questions unanswered
WND ^ | Posted: December 05, 2009 | By Bob Unruh

Posted on 12/05/2009 7:53:36 AM PST by Irisshlass

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Douglas J. Hagmann, director of the Northeast Intelligence Network, said a passenger on the flight contacted him two days after the incident. Hagmann published a report of his group's investigation, which concluded that the media, the airline and government agencies have not reported the truth.

"The reasons, I have been told, is fear of predatory lawsuits, negative publicity from accusations of religious profiling, and the obligatory subjugation to mindless mandatory Muslim sensitivity training that make a mockery of our American system of values," Hagmann writes.

He said an airline official told him "we don't want to become another flight 300," referring to a similar scenario on a US Airways flight three years ago.

1 posted on 12/05/2009 7:53:37 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

This didn’t happen.


2 posted on 12/05/2009 7:56:06 AM PST by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Irisshlass

Wouldn’t “full attire” require a suicide belt and AK-47?


3 posted on 12/05/2009 7:57:48 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Irisshlass

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2400688/posts


4 posted on 12/05/2009 7:59:55 AM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Irisshlass

Causing a minor disturbance is a possible attempt to get the air marshalls to self-identify.

If there are any.


5 posted on 12/05/2009 8:01:25 AM PST by zipper
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To: Principled

Flight attendents were sobbing openly...Robinson was warned not to get on board by another passenger...the orginal crew refused to fly the airplane over a cell phone incident??? A dozen or more passengers left the airplane and rebooked their flight? It did happen.


6 posted on 12/05/2009 8:02:01 AM PST by Irisshlass
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You are so right. It is all rumor BS, and makes look so very stupid for believing it.

If it was posted on April 1, everyone would have recognized it as a bad April Fools Joke immediately.

7 posted on 12/05/2009 8:02:19 AM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick Dems when they're down. Wait 'till they're 1/2 way back up. You get much better leverage!)
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To: Irisshlass

I wouldn’t doubt that Ted Petruna is a pseudonym, but that the account is substantially real.


8 posted on 12/05/2009 8:04:21 AM PST by Dr. Sivana
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To: netmilsmom

I know what AJC says..if you read this story you would understand why it is being posted.


9 posted on 12/05/2009 8:04:33 AM PST by Irisshlass
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"and makes look so very stupid"

Quite right.

10 posted on 12/05/2009 8:05:25 AM PST by Paladin2
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Flight attendants were sobbing openly...Robinson was warned not to get on board by another passenger...the original crew refused to fly the airplane over a cell phone incident??? A dozen or more passengers left the airplane and rebooked their flight? It did happen.

Who says so. What person, one who can be easily identified as a real person on the flight, says, "Yes, I saw this happen."

This is all rumor packed on top of anonymous e-mails packed on top of rumor.

I'm sorry but this does not pass the smell test. It's about an 8.5 on the BS meter.

11 posted on 12/05/2009 8:06:36 AM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick Dems when they're down. Wait 'till they're 1/2 way back up. You get much better leverage!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

http://www.gillreport.com/index.php Podcast

Steve Gill - December 3, 2009 Hr 3
LIVE from the Opryland Hotel and Convention Center; D

The guy is real.


12 posted on 12/05/2009 8:06:51 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Dr. Sivana

Nope, he works at NASA down in South Houston. He’s real.


13 posted on 12/05/2009 8:08:09 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Irisshlass

PS, back in my Crusading TV Reporter days, we would get about 3 stories a week that were this bad... and all BS.


14 posted on 12/05/2009 8:09:29 AM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick Dems when they're down. Wait 'till they're 1/2 way back up. You get much better leverage!)
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Dr. Keith Robinson says so..He also did a 45 min interview. Do your own homework.


15 posted on 12/05/2009 8:11:52 AM PST by Irisshlass
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The more I see the more I believe it. I am not saying it was a dry run. It may have been a attempt to extort money from the airline with a threat of legal action. But let me ask you what happens to the already deep in trouble airlines if a story like this goes viral right during the most heavily traveled time of the year? People cancel, drive, take the train, but what ever the airline industry gets clobbered BIG TIME! A most would go under in a shortly there after.
16 posted on 12/05/2009 8:14:02 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: MindBender26

Hmmmm...interesting you call it Crusade..


17 posted on 12/05/2009 8:15:01 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: MindBender26

Yes, and you are allowing that experience to color your view of this one. Nope, its real. Ask a pilot or anyone connected to AirTran. It wasn’t a dry run though, it was an attempt to get a payoff.


18 posted on 12/05/2009 8:16:07 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Irisshlass

New proof, whole story is BS

This from new AJC posting

"Although AirTran previously had declined to release the flight manifest, that changed Friday evening. In addition to discounting Petruna's story, the airline responded to the amount of attention it believed the circulated e-mail was gaining, said Christopher White, AirTran spokesman.

There was no way Petruna could have seen what he described on Flight 297, AirTran said in a statement. Petruna departed from Akron-Canton, Ohio, on AirTran Flight 205 on Nov. 17, officials said. He was supposed to connect to Flight 297 to head to Houston, but he missed his first flight out of Ohio. And therefore, he missed the connecting flight.

"Flight 297, the flight which Mr. Patruna allegedly wrote a first-hand account of, originally pushed back from its gate in Atlanta at 4:40 p.m. EST, a full 26 minutes before flight 205 arrived at the gate in Atlanta making this flight connection impossible," according to AirTran.

Neither Petruna nor Hackemack responded to requests from the AJC to speak to them Friday evening.

end of AJC story

Petruna could not have seen what he claims to have seen, (and he started it all, it all hangs on him) because he was in midair, on another flight, when it happened. He was pissed at AirTran because he missed his flight, and decided to start a rumor about it to hurt them, and now has been caught.


19 posted on 12/05/2009 8:34:10 AM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick Dems when they're down. Wait 'till they're 1/2 way back up. You get much better leverage!)
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How can he start a rumor..when you have “other” witnesses.

Doug Hagman interviewed 7 other witnesses which included two law enforcement officers who handled the after action reports.

“According to one airline security official, “This was a deliberate, well planned attempt to disrupt a domestic flight that was organized in advance of the boarding of these [Muslim] passengers. The purpose of their actions appeared to be multi-faceted, not the least of which was an attempt to change their status from passengers to victims of religious profiling”

Petruna was in midair when they incident took place. But you have 7 other witnesses which includes law enforcement. And the orginal crew refused to fly the plane.


20 posted on 12/05/2009 8:52:20 AM PST by Irisshlass
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