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Are atheists really fundamentalists?
Telegraph (U.K.) ^
| December 5, 2009
| Nigel Farndale
Posted on 12/06/2009 6:47:01 AM PST by Schnucki
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To: bravotu
Threats of eternal torture and damnation really do not affect those who do not believe in it.
Feel free to threaten Christians who are not of the correct denomination though. I am sure they would take your threats seriously.
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posted on
12/06/2009 7:28:52 AM PST
by
IronKros
(Science is the great antidote to the poison of enthusiasm and superstition. ~Adam Smith, The Wealth)
To: Schnucki
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posted on
12/06/2009 7:34:58 AM PST
by
Vaduz
To: domenad
“When you have no argument, go for grammar. Nice to see you keeping that tradition alive. Douchebag.”
And when both reason and grammar fail, go for the Ad Hominem attack
To: Schnucki
If one truly believes in God, it is a personal decision that needs to be respected and the existence of atheism should not be viewed as a threat.
After all, God created all atheists didn't he ???
To: freedomfiter2
I had assumed that part of the point of being an atheist was that you were tolerant of the views of others.
Wrong, the whole point to being an atheist is hating the God you insist doesnt exist.
what has being an Atheist to do with tolerance in general?
For me (i´m one :-) this only means that i don´t believe in any form of god and supernatural. For the tolerance well i guess this is up to the individual. Some people are tolerant some are not. i don´t think that has anything to do in what you believe or not in generall. btw. for me it would be difficult to hate something (god) which doesn´t exist for me.
To: freedomfiter2
That is so true. That is what I told my “atheist” brother, he just hates God.
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posted on
12/06/2009 7:39:05 AM PST
by
tiki
(True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
To: whodathunkit
Atheists may not believe in God but they probably do believe in abortion, homosexuality, gay marriage and global warming.
To: Schnucki
Atheists who are driven to essentially proselytize are fundies of a different stripe, but fundamentalists they are.
They’re just selling consequence-free sex to teenagers, when you get right down to it. Preganancy? Abortion. STD? Prophylactics and drugs. AIDS? Reagan’s fault. Consequences? What consequences?
Fundamentally juvenile, is what it is. Most grow out of it. Those who don’t, become bitter and buy billboards trying to convince others of their rightness.
To: Ev Reeman
I do not understand how people CANNOT believe in God. Those who see the Universe as All that There Is...
And Those who see the Universe as a Created Thing
— With a Creator and a Purpose --
See with an entirely different set of Symbols in Their Heads
Talking to each other is like speaking
Swahili to one who hears in Shinto symbols
The sounds may be vaguely familiar, but
Neither understands the other
This is the problem with Communication between those
with dramatically different Metaphysics
To: Ev Reeman
Atheists may not believe in God but they probably do believe in abortion, homosexuality, gay marriage and global warming. I think you are assuming an awful lot.
If your faith in God is strong, atheism cannot, by definition, threaten your views. As for tying in these other issues, I assume you have some source other than your 'belief' that atheists adopt these positions by default?
To: Schnucki
Yes, and I love the insight!
These folks are zealous these days. Books, billboards, bus signs, talk shows, litigation. . .
Bunch of atheist ‘fundies.
I love Christian ‘fundies, though, and many consider me to be one, even though using perfect theological criteria I guess I’m not.
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posted on
12/06/2009 8:46:26 AM PST
by
Marie2
(The second mouse gets the cheese.)
To: Schnucki
Atheists are mostly liberal anyway, so we don’t see many of them on a conservatve site, DU has a lot of them though.
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posted on
12/06/2009 8:59:43 AM PST
by
ansel12
(They don't come any slimier than Romney, (in the Republican party))
To: IronKros
Why is the burden of proof on us? Isn’t agnosticism a more honest intellectual approach to the existence of God? Of course, Aristotle points to a First Cause by reason alone.
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posted on
12/06/2009 10:36:18 AM PST
by
GAB-1955
(I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
To: CaptainAmiigaf
Bad thinking was the problem—the spelling and typing was a bonus.
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posted on
12/06/2009 12:31:00 PM PST
by
Misterioso
(The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
To: GAB-1955
Isnt agnosticism a more honest intellectual approach to the existence of God?
There may be invisible unicorns. However, this is highly unlikely and we have no evidence that they do. Since we do not know that they do not exist a more honest intellectual approach would be to allow for the possibility. I however will say that I do not believe invisible unicorns exist.
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posted on
12/06/2009 2:04:02 PM PST
by
IronKros
(Science is the great antidote to the poison of enthusiasm and superstition. ~Adam Smith, The Wealth)
To: IronKros
What a sloppy argument, typical of the atheist who doesn’t know why he or she doesn’t believe. It also is a slap in the face of the theist, so it’s a twofer.
I don’t believe that gods are invisible unicorns, or angry old men in the sky, or any other atheist tropes. I believe in a God who created the existing universe, and who has left evidence in creation - in the human mind and heart - of this fact. Of course, we could be merely conceited amoebas, and this evidence an emergent phenomena due to the complexity of our brains. But we don’t know. And that is why agnosticism is a better state than atheism if you are not convinced of the existence of God.
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posted on
12/06/2009 2:29:41 PM PST
by
GAB-1955
(I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
To: IronKros
Ain’t No Threat.
Don’t make it any Less True.
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posted on
12/06/2009 3:01:35 PM PST
by
bravotu
(Have a Nice Day !)
To: GAB-1955
If you believe that a god exists then you are not agnostic.
Then the distinction would be between theist and deist.
I am an atheist because I do not see the evidence to support the claim that there is a god. I make no assertions that is not a god, only that my belief is that there isn't one.
Now that being said, I am more than welcome to the concept. But even then I do not see how any of the major religions would have gotten it correct.
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posted on
12/06/2009 6:03:45 PM PST
by
IronKros
(Science is the great antidote to the poison of enthusiasm and superstition. ~Adam Smith, The Wealth)
To: bravotu
Oh, so you are just making a funny quip about eternal, unendurable torture and pain. Nice.
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posted on
12/06/2009 6:06:56 PM PST
by
IronKros
(Science is the great antidote to the poison of enthusiasm and superstition. ~Adam Smith, The Wealth)
To: IronKros
I will Laugh like Hell when Your Big Toe Busts Hell Wide Open , My FRiend!
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posted on
12/06/2009 6:28:34 PM PST
by
bravotu
(Have a Nice Day !)
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