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Why is AirTran Lying About,Attacking Its Customers?:The Answers, Documents AirTran Won’t Provide
Debbie Schlussel ^ | 12-6-09 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 12/06/2009 8:36:55 PM PST by STARWISE

Why is AirTran lying about its passengers? And why would you believe the company that refuses to answer important questions or release documents to back up their claims?

The airline may face a lawsuit, which will finally uncover the proof that a dry run was conducted by 11 Muslim men, and it tried to force passengers to fly with them, anyway.

As readers know, on Thursday, I posted an e-mail written by Tedd J. Petruna, a NASA employee who was on AirTran Flight 297 from Atlanta to Houston on November 17th of this year.

He recounted in the e-mail–which he never intended to go public all around the internet–how 11 Middle Eastern men, likely Muslims, conducted what appeared to be a dry run. He wrote the e-mail to dispute the lie AirTran told the press that the flight was canceled because a man refused to stop talking on his cell phone. AirTran, by the way, has never released the name of that man.

And now, the long knives of AirTran public relations have come out. AirTran told the Atlanta Urinal-Constipation, er . . . Journal-Constitution that Petruna was not on the flight (well, at least in this case, there’s no constipation, as the paper is full of crap). And instantly, everyone believes AirTran, without seeing the official passenger manifest or any documentation whatsoever. Everyone, except me and most of my readers (not the trolls who are now commenting).

(Excerpt) Read more at debbieschlussel.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airtran; airtran297; airtranflight297; chaplainrobinson; flight297; petruna; snakesonaplane; tsa
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To: cyn

“...we get together our own group acting in this same way.”

I have thought of similar moves, problem is we are self-funded and have jobs to be at every day, family obligations, etc., while this scum likely does not need to worry about stuff like that: their objective is destruction, period, and they must be well funded too!


21 posted on 12/06/2009 9:08:37 PM PST by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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To: STARWISE

Someone sent me that eMail a couple of days ago...


22 posted on 12/06/2009 9:12:03 PM PST by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: cyn

Exacty!! What other segments of society
in the same situation and others, are given
such velvet glove treatment, passes and
appeased .. over and over again .. ??

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NONE!

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News articles - search term: unruly passenger sues airline

http://www.google.com/search?q=unruly%20passenger%20sues%20airline&hl=en&ned=us&tab=nw

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Challenging airlines for mistreatment

If you have been deemed unsuitable for flight, the airline must follow the correct protocol. If they don’t follow standard procedures and deviate from it, you can definitely sue them for mistreatment.

The same applies if the airline refuses to board you without a valid reason. If you turn up the terminal on time, following all the rules yet they still refuse to let you board for a superfluous reason, you may still sue them.

Most lawyers will take on cases like this pro bono as there is a lot of unchartered precedences as well as high case publicity which will garner a lot of international publicity. This amounts to bad airline pr.

http://aviationsolicitors.com/airline-lawsuits/challenging-airlines-for-mistreatment


23 posted on 12/06/2009 9:12:34 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Danae

Thanks .. ;)


24 posted on 12/06/2009 9:14:06 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: businessprofessor
This story is odd. I am not sure if it actually occurred as related by DS. The story has been strongly debunked by Snopes but there seems to be unanswered questions with at least one other passenger relating a somewhat similar story as Petruna.

Snopes is not a reliable source of correct information, and should not be cited as such by anyone, especially on this forum. They are on par with Wikipedia for reliability.
25 posted on 12/06/2009 9:18:53 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the update. :)


26 posted on 12/06/2009 9:18:58 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: TigersEye
read this...more on that flight with the muslims.
27 posted on 12/06/2009 9:19:35 PM PST by pandoraou812 (time to dump tar & feathers on DC)
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To: STARWISE

bump


28 posted on 12/06/2009 9:19:39 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (Good Lord deliver us)
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To: Pikachu_Dad; businessprofessor

As you say...

“Whatever happened, the pilot and crew CHOSE TO NOT CONTINUE THE FLIGHT.

Whatever happened, a number of passengers (12 or so) ALSO CHOSE TO NOT CONTINUE THE FLIGHT.

The story making the rounds may be hyped up about what happened, but the AirTran story is also CLEARLY NOT THE TRUTH.

The crew and passengers WOULD NOT BE GETTING OFF FOR SUCH A MINOR INCIDENT.”

There is more to this than Airtran is saying. I sympathize with them ... well, until now ... for the difficult spot this whole thing put them in. But TSA is charged with our protection, and they have no excuse.

I looked up another rather similar situation, Annie Jacobsen and Northwest Flight 327 on June 29, 2004. and posted links, including the Snopes take on it, to another thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2400688/posts #70

Btw, the Snopes article on NW 327 http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/skyterror.asp was last updated 5/28/2007 ... articles cited are all 4 from 2004.... but released documents actually support that (again, like in this Airtran 297 case) “something” was happening that was not right.


29 posted on 12/06/2009 9:23:20 PM PST by cyn
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To: businessprofessor

You find snopes crediable? LOL


30 posted on 12/06/2009 9:24:00 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: businessprofessor

“strongly debunked” ??? Not quite, even Snopes which has its own biases and agendas listed this as “Mixture.”

Definitely NOT debunked, let alone strongly.


31 posted on 12/06/2009 9:24:54 PM PST by Moe Tzadik
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To: Irisshlass

I have found that over the years they have had more malware than a Romanian pron farm ^__^


32 posted on 12/06/2009 9:29:31 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (Good Lord deliver us)
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To: STARWISE

DEbbie, the problem is you have a 3rd-person e-mail of unknown origin, vs. a known corporate entity making a claim of fact

Sure, they could be lying, but if they are, Tedd could come forward with his actual boarding pass, or someone could subpeona the boarding records, or you could find the “Texan” Tedd mentions and have him vouch for the story.

So the airline knows it can’t just lie and get away with it.

On the other hand, “Tedd” hasn’t said anything, there’s just this e-mail. He can deny writing it if he wants. Or he can say it’s real, and there’s no real consequence to him if he’s not telling the truth.

If Tedd came forward with a boarding pass and told his story on the record, that would make him more believable.


33 posted on 12/06/2009 9:29:55 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Moe Tzadik

Snopes walks on the VERY left side .. not trustworthy.


34 posted on 12/06/2009 9:30:20 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

THe crew may have been required to swap out because of the length of the delay, which may have pushed them past their maximum hours for the day.


35 posted on 12/06/2009 9:31:50 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Moe Tzadik

Good call.


36 posted on 12/06/2009 9:32:26 PM PST by FreeKeys ("I haven't seen a lot of Southern Baptist suicide bombers lately."- Lt.Col. Ralph Peters on O'Reilly)
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To: elpinta
But we are also angry and very motivated to protect ourselves and our loved ones.

Especially since the agencies that should be protecting us aren't.

37 posted on 12/06/2009 9:32:29 PM PST by cyn
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To: Moe Tzadik

Good call.


38 posted on 12/06/2009 9:32:40 PM PST by FreeKeys ("I haven't seen a lot of Southern Baptist suicide bombers lately."- Lt.Col. Ralph Peters on O'Reilly)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Just imagine what would’ve happened had a dozen Christians gotten off their seats in a plane on a Riyadh tarmac and started to sing Christian hymns.

We, as a nation, are digging our graves when we allow the enemy to live among us. Can anyone list any positive contribution that Muslims have made to this nation?

Something cataclysmic on the order of 10X what happened on 9/11/01 will need to wake this country up from its coma. And even then, we’ll probably apologize to the Muslims for our insensitivity and keep on broadcasting that Islam is basically a ROP.


39 posted on 12/06/2009 9:33:43 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the links, Starwise.

Don’t other passengers have a right to fly free from harrassment and intimidation? And I’d think passengers not sitting when they are told to and congregating in the aisles (as happened in Annie Jacobsen’s flight and others) would be a SAFETY issue.

This is such a “DUH!!” issue... why is the airline industry allowing itself to be hamstrung and manipulated in this manner by these stinking low-rent bullies? This will just keep getting worse and worse.


40 posted on 12/06/2009 9:34:42 PM PST by cyn
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