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To: BroJoeK
I did't see you on this thread yet. Here is a ping since this is an area of interest for you.

Homer

69 posted on 12/07/2009 9:16:25 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
from post #69: "I did't see you on this thread yet. Here is a ping since this is an area of interest for you."

Thanks for the ping.
Now that I have some time, have read through all these posts and they are excellent! Many hit the nail right on the head. Most of the points I would have argued with turned out to be nicely answered by others. I am very impressed.

And some of this has been mentioned before, but will list again references I recommend:

Making the case that Roosevelt not only knew in advance of the Pearl Harbor attack, but in some sense "provoked" it:

Robert Stinnett c2000 "Day of Deceit"

George Victor c2007 "The Pearl Harbor Myth"

Making the case that FDR did not know in advance:

Joseph Perisco c2001 "Roosevelt's Secret War"

Larry Schweikart c2008 "48 Liberal Lies About American History"

My opinion is that -- despite my high respect for Perisco and Schweikart otherwise -- those who argue "Roosevelt knew" make a stronger case than those who say he didn't. And the George Victor book especially puts the whole thing in proper context.

Stinnett makes at least three important points:

But George Victor spells out the context -- political, military & strategic which best makes sense of it all, imho.

207 posted on 12/10/2009 7:41:46 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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