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Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative, Such a Thing?

Posted on 12/07/2009 7:56:22 AM PST by MNDude

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To: MNDude

No, there is not.


21 posted on 12/07/2009 8:18:17 AM PST by sport
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To: ClearCase_guy

Forgot to mention I am also opposed to abortion—a key tenet ib being socially liberal.


22 posted on 12/07/2009 8:18:45 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: pgyanke
Social liberalism will inevitably result in fiscal liberalism ...

Exactly! And it is the same reason that this 'equation' is true:


23 posted on 12/07/2009 8:19:04 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: MNDude
Just from personally experience, the “Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative” types have been the most muddle-brained folks I know. They are all over the map on the issues and get erratic when their philosophies collide.
24 posted on 12/07/2009 8:21:08 AM PST by Jagdgewehr (The GOP faithful want me to believe I have only two voting options......"bad" and "worse")
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To: chuckles
P.S. to post #15. This is the reason to worry about the social liberals taking over the CHURCHES! Many pastors failed to warn their sheep about BHO. In fact, they probably voted for him themselves.

Besides losing your soul to Satan, you could lose your country if you allow blasphemy's to be preached from your pulpit. We will return to irrelevance if that happens.

Obviously, there should be no separation of church and state. God should be central in EVERYTHING you do.

25 posted on 12/07/2009 8:22:00 AM PST by chuckles
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To: MNDude

Social liberalism is liberalism, period. Social liberalism costs big time; if not today, then down the road.... but it costs.

Christian liberalism in the aspect of giving is always voluntary; no compulsion from either the state or from any organized religious hierarchy. Second Corinthians calls it “liberality,” which is too obviously defined from the context as voluntary giving from the heart. This is of course, a Christian grace encouraged by the Scriptures and prompted by the Holy Spirit.

Government, pretending to be God and Robin Hood all at the same time, strips ability from the citizens to be liberal in the (voluntary) giving to the needy, and it also strips away our resources to properly plan to take care of our own elderly. Government, therefore actually encourages selfishness, greed, graft, and irresponsibility.


26 posted on 12/07/2009 8:22:57 AM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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To: MNDude

1)I don’t care what an individual does in the privacy of their own home whether watching porn or playing bongos naked.

2) You want an abortion...fine...you pay for it...and don’t ask for my social approval.

3) If you privately engage in risky sexual behavior and are disease ridden, don’t ask me to pay for your health care.

4) Fry your brains with pot, don’t ask me to fund your rehab.

5) Do the crime, do the time

6) Success is determined on ones own merits, not the color of ones skin.

7) Don’t like guns???...then don’t buy one and don’t tell me I cannot have one.

8) Don’t like Rush Limbaugh??? then don’t listen....

9) Don’t tell me about the twig in my eye when there is a log in yours.

10) Those without fault...feel free to cast stones!!!


27 posted on 12/07/2009 8:25:11 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: MNDude
I'm curious if anyone give give some examples of any politicians who really is Socially Liberal but Fiscally Conservative.

They'd be the ones who are against the war but support the troops.

Or the ones who didn't inhale.

28 posted on 12/07/2009 8:27:20 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: MNDude

We know a couple, who have proudly bragged about being Fiscal Conservatives and Socially Liberal.

They have been hit hard by the financial meltdown and owe everyone they could get a loan from with zero payments in over a year. They haven’t paid a mortgage payment in about two years.

Now the husband appears to have a Sugar Mommy over 800 miles away, where he is supposedly starting a new business. He goes there for a couple of weeks at a time and doesn’t call or contact his wife during his travel. He is never where, he is supposed to be. The public agencies in the far away city, which he supposedly is setting up training programs for, don’t know who he is, or anything about his so called company.

The wife complains that that he doesn’t give her any money, she doesn’t have money for groceries, and it costs $70 to fill up her 2 year old Mercedes. When we suggest that she sell her expensive Rolex and similiar items, which she still has, her eyes get glassy and she ignores us and others with similiar suggestions. Supposedly, no one wants to buy her Mercedes.

In retrospect, she was a peacenik hippie re made in to a high society liberal and supposedly financial conservative.

He is a real chameleon and is probably a liberal libertarian with out the camo.


29 posted on 12/07/2009 8:28:01 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: sickoflibs

The two are mutually exclusive......incommensurable.....in other words,

BULL$HIT


30 posted on 12/07/2009 8:28:52 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: MNDude

Yes....It’s called a RINO-yoyo.


31 posted on 12/07/2009 8:29:37 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-George Orwell)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

FYI, Ron Paul is also a Conservative socially as well as fiscally. As an Obstetrician who has delivered thousands of babies, he is 100% Pro Life for example.
He is very popular in his District usually winning with over 70% of the vote in one of the most Conservative Districts in the United States.
I happen to live in that District and he is my Congress Critter.


32 posted on 12/07/2009 8:30:37 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: MNDude
Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative, Such a Thing?

That question could be cut in half and still be valid.

33 posted on 12/07/2009 8:31:03 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Servant of the Cross

LOL!


34 posted on 12/07/2009 8:31:20 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: TheSuaveOne

Wrong. We believe in Judeo-Christian values which are the founding principles of our nation. Lose this and you lose your soul. No rights are UNLIMITED.

We have free speech but that doesn’t mean you can yell fire in a crowded theatre if there is no fire.

We have the right to keep and bear arms but that doesn’t mean you can keep a tank in your garage.

We have the right to do what we want with our bodies but that doesn’t mean we have the right to kill innocent human life.

And if something isn’t specifically mentioned in the US Constitution, that means that the states have the right to pass legislation regarding it.

Your “right” to an abortion is not protected in the Constitution.

Your “right” to smoke pot is not protected in the Constitution.

Your “right” to look at child porn is not in the Constitution.

Your “right” to to visit a prostitute is not in the Constitution.

Your “right” to marry just anyone you want is not in the Constitution.

If it is not mentioned in the Constitution, that means states and localities have every right to make laws about it.

There is always the Higher Power we must be accountable to. A society based on secular values and materialism is doomed to destruct.


35 posted on 12/07/2009 8:31:36 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: MNDude

When a politician is socially liberal, they spend public money on those causes. THAT is not fiscally conservative.


36 posted on 12/07/2009 8:32:27 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: BnBlFlag

Good to know he is pro-life. Some libertarians to their credit are. What his Ron Paul’s position on ghey marriage?


37 posted on 12/07/2009 8:34:21 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: TheSuaveOne
To me it's the social conservative that is the hypocrite.

Liberals seem to be in favor of government intrusion in all possible areas of life except sex and drugs. That's not necessarily hypocritical, but it does seem odd to me that these areas are picked out as the most important and therefore deserving of maintaining liberty.

If the freedom to screw around and dope yourself up without consequences is the most important aspect of freedom to you, there's something wrong in your life.

And, FYI, whether the government gets involved or not there are almost always negative consequences to such behavior.

Without the discipline imposed by social conservatism, which should ideally come from individuals rather than the government, the society will slowly collapse, making interventions necessary that will quickly destroy a fiscally conservative policy.

38 posted on 12/07/2009 8:34:25 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

He believes the government should not be involved in marriage and it should be left to the churches.


39 posted on 12/07/2009 8:36:03 AM PST by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: MNDude

No.

Your fiscally conservative pockets are constantly being picked to fund your stupid socially liberal projects.


40 posted on 12/07/2009 8:36:06 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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