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FACT CHECK: Yes, Obama was born in the United States (BS propaganda needs freeping)
The Florida Times Union ^ | 11-29-2009 | Carole Fader

Posted on 12/07/2009 10:47:09 PM PST by Frantzie

More than a few Times-Union readers want to know:

Is Barack Obama eligible to be president of the United States?

All the independent fact-checking sources, some of which did extensive original research on the issue, conclude that Obama is a natural born citizen, having been born on American soil in Honolulu, and is thus eligible to be president.

(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; donofrio; factcheck; leodonofrio; obama; orlytaitz
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Disinformation about Fact Check and Snopes published by a newspaper propagandists. We need to post some follow up comments. The bottom line question is why does he continue to withhold his birth certificate. The site needs some freepers to set the record straight.
1 posted on 12/07/2009 10:47:10 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


2 posted on 12/07/2009 10:56:33 PM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: Frantzie

lulz


3 posted on 12/07/2009 10:56:59 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (Whoever is righteous, let him be righteous still.)
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To: Frantzie

FactCheck.org is an independent nonpartisan, nonprofit project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania.

Obama and Ayers were associated with an Annenberg group.


4 posted on 12/07/2009 11:04:02 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: Frantzie

And just like ClimateGate, the three people who can end the argument by showing us the facts won’t.


5 posted on 12/07/2009 11:05:06 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Frantzie

“Fact Check” and “Snopes” would not be necessary if Hussein would simply produce that little slip of paper. Inasmuch as he has not done so, despite all the fuss, it is legitimate to conclude that the document does not exist. Indeed, any other conclusion would be both unwarranted and foolish.

Per the United States Constitution as written, the character in the White House is INELIGIBLE to hold the office of President of the United States.

The fact that no one cares says more about the status of the government, and the level of respect in which the constitution is held at this point in the nation’s history, than anything in recent memory - most particularly among the Democrats.

It is, however, an indictment of the entire nation that this intolerable nonsense has been allowed to continue. The annals of the future will show this as an historic mistake.


6 posted on 12/07/2009 11:05:21 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Frantzie

LOL.

Carol your sources would be better if you had heard from your father-in -law’s son’s daughter who heard from a friend that heard from their cousin who heard someplace but they can’t remember where that 0bambi was born in the USA.

Show us the long form birth certificate and how about some school records as well.


7 posted on 12/07/2009 11:09:27 PM PST by A message
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To: Frantzie

Someone who has an account there can feel free to make these points:

1. The three sources mentioned aren’t very credible:
http://24ahead.com/brooks-jackson-factcheck-misleads-about-illegal-aliens-and-o
http://katrinacoverage.com/2005/11/14/nopd-phantom-cops-real-or-fiction.html
http://24ahead.com/angie-drobnic-holan-politifact-misleads-about-healthcare-ref

2. She attempts to mislead her readers with the bit about “The Hawaiian health director and the state registrar of vital statistics then said they had verified Obama’s original birth certificate.” Most people will assume that HI verified what’s shown on BHO’s site. In fact, HI admits that they’ve never done that:
http://24ahead.com/hawaii-has-not-authenticated-certifications-live-birth-shown

3. The two people who claim to have seen the cert were just staffers, not document experts. Also, FC later recompressed and removed the EXIF data from its pictures without noting that they’d changed them.

4. The problems with the announcements are gone into here:
http://24ahead.com/obama-birth-announcements

If you want to do something about her blather, you have to concentrate on those points, not on speculation or legal theories that no one who isn’t an expert can prove or disprove.

*Concentrate on the facts and just the facts*.


8 posted on 12/07/2009 11:09:27 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: Frantzie

> Yes, Obama was born in the United States (BS propaganda needs freeping)

The United States of Kenya?


9 posted on 12/07/2009 11:09:32 PM PST by max americana (i)
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To: Frantzie

Liars.

What hospital was he born in?

What was the name of the attending physician?

How about the name of a nurse present?

Strange how no one knows...

Liars.


10 posted on 12/07/2009 11:11:22 PM PST by DB
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As a child, Obama held both U.S. and Kenyan citizenship...

This is the first time I have seen this in the MSM. As I interpret the Constitution, this is a disqualifier. Leave it to the MSM to invalidate their 'man' in their disingenuous attempt to certify him.

11 posted on 12/07/2009 11:12:03 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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With the sudden flurry of stories about Bambi’s BC I wonder if something is up or possibly moving behind the scenes and the media is just trying a preemptive strike or something?


12 posted on 12/07/2009 11:15:42 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Frantzie

**********My Hawaiian Christmas Holiday**********
by
Obacky Rama Ding Dong

I can’t tell you enough how much I long for my *Hawaiian
Hideway* while I leave my compound on the beach to visit my granny’s apartment to double check to see if i left any paperwork behind and to keep in contact with the Dept. of Health & Birth Certificate by phone because I can’t use the White House phone ‘cause i’m just checking in with the sups over there to make sure nobody leaked my real information—if I use the White House phone they’ll have phone records of my calls,too,so that’s not very cool is it?

I will have to say i really sat on my hands in conference (my butt kept them warm) with all those weird people who were demanding some type of military action in a strange place called Afghanistan! In my experience I have been to Pockeystaan and know some people there called the Tolleybaan.

I want to pay the Tolleybaan NOT to fight us in Afghanistan but they didn’t go for that.

I was in Japan recently where I made a really cool “move” just like in the video games i play and i actually bowed!!
I thought the Emperor would pick up on that because Japan makes all these really kewl games & stuff but he just looked at me and so did his wife the Empress.

After that I went to China and I bowed to him , too, because there’s a lot of stuff you can buy in the store that’s made in China. I don’t know what he thought but he took to me a place where there was this big wall.
To tell you the truth, I didn’t know what to do with myself,because all the popcorn sellers had left and gone home for day. I was there all alone by myself and the kids and my Michelle weren’t even there to get their picture taken!

Well,i guess i have to go to some weird place called Oslo but i’m glad my 1.5 mil check is already in the bank. I really,really, really need that money man,so I can still pay my personal lawyers in silencing those idiots in Hawaii at the Birth Certificate place.

Oh,Oh, I forgot, I’m going to Copenhagen,too, but do you pronounce it Copenhagen or Copenhaagen? I wouldn’t want to distress my friends in Pockeystaan and the Tolleybaan.

Will write more after my junket to ***The Hawaiian Hideaway***

See Ya’!


13 posted on 12/07/2009 11:16:52 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Stop Muslims Training on American Soil NOW)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
With the sudden flurry of stories about Bambi’s BC I wonder if something is up or possibly moving behind the scenes and the media is just trying a preemptive strike or something?

The letters and calls questioning Ogabe's Usurper status and the media's cover-up must be enormous, especially after the Palin interview with Rusty Humphries. The State Run Media has been given their marching orders from the White Hut to nip this story in the bud.
14 posted on 12/07/2009 11:21:53 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Frantzie

Just because they landed on Hawaiian soil, and declared him born again, does not make him a natural born citizen. Nonetheless, we do know he is a natural born sneak, cheat and liar!


15 posted on 12/07/2009 11:23:13 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Frantzie

Why does he have a battery of lawyers stonewalling the issue?


16 posted on 12/07/2009 11:30:06 PM PST by himno hero
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To: Frantzie
In keeping with Constitutional requirements for the Presidency, it is not OUR PLACE to prove he isn't eligible, it's HIS PLACE to prove that HE IS.

Instead he's spending millions to keep us from even investigating the periphrials of his "birth certificate", like school records, college records, etc.

I just want one state...ONE STATE...to pass a state law that proof of natural born citizenship must be presented by the candidate to be put on the ballot. Only ONE STATE needed.
18 posted on 12/07/2009 11:36:41 PM PST by FrankR (SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I agree that something is up. It may have to do with his falling approval number. The puppet masters may be worried that once people become disenchanted with 0bama, they may take a closer look at him. 0bama’s Geppetto may be trying to convince the mind numb public of his legitmace before they start investigating further.


19 posted on 12/07/2009 11:38:20 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Frantzie
All the independent fact-checking sources, some of which did extensive original research on the issue, conclude that Obama is a natural born citizen, having been born on American soil in Honolulu, and is thus eligible to be president.

All of which would have been totally unnecessary, had the original long form Birth Certificate been made available at the beginning.

Nothing personal, well, yes it is personal, I don't believe a damned word that comes out of Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid's mouth.

Additionally, Obummers records as to status at attending the various schools in the U.S. (as a foreign student?) is obviously also relevant.

20 posted on 12/07/2009 11:38:46 PM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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