Posted on 12/07/2009 10:47:09 PM PST by Frantzie
My guess is that his education records will show that he recieved some form of foreign student aid while at Occidental, Columbia and/or Harvard. That would expose the fraud that he has perpetrated on the country which would probably lead to his removal from office.
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Exactly, what is there to hide? My father, who once worked undercover in the fever swamps that were the 1970’s community organizing rings of Chicago, thinks that this is the key to unlocking the impeachment beast.
How did he get to “Pokistan” with nary a penny to his name in the early 1980’s. How did he pay for 7 years of expensive private school? What did he put on his applications? Etc. Etc. Etc.........
If I recall correctly, one could not travel to “Pokistan” with an American passport at the time he visited. The birth certificate is merely a distraction to keep people from looking elsewhere and asking damaging questions. He will release something in early 2012 that will "settle" the bc issue and will then claim persecution from the right as a sympathy play just before the election. The real issues are his school records and his passport, not the bc, imho.
Nonsense.
I've got enough common sense to know that he's not a 100% American Citizen by birth!
He's gonna do that frog march soon! Get used to it.
Suppose the king of England/Saudi took a US child bride/wife to bear a US citizen so he could rule over US. Would you be against that? How is this any different?
Do you understand why there is the natural born citizen clause?
Perhaps, but our laws are not based on your common sense, but rather the Constitution and legislation and court decisions that conform to our Constitution.
And in the entire body of laws in this country, not one single law defines natural born citizen in the manner you wish it to be defined.
While what you cite might be compelling it really has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
1. The translation of Vattel that you have perviously referenced was not completed until years after the Constitution was ratified. So, therefore, the framers could not have used that translation.
2. A direct translation of the Vattel text that you cite does not contain the phase “natural born citizen.”
3. Judges on the SCOTUS prefer that the lawyers cite the Constitution, legislation or Case Law when arguing before the Court and not European philosophers.
4. While it is obvious to everyone that the term “natural born citizen” did not appear in a direct translation of Vattel that was used by the Framers, it is apparent that there were legal definitions of the term “natural born citizen” that were available to the Framers.
For example, the Georgia Charter of 1732 did define the term “natural born subjects.” And yes, “subject” is a synonym of “citizen.”
Charter of 1732 – Georgia
Also we do for ourselves and successors declare by these presents that all and every the persons which shall happen to be born within the said province and every of their children and posterity shall have and enjoy all liberties franchises and immunities of free denizens and natural born subjects.
Please notice how the people of Georgia, who were actually represented at the Constitutional Convention codified and understood that term “natural born citizen.”
So there you have it, actual codification of the term “natural born subject (citizen)” that existed at the time of the ratification of the Constitution.
So we just IGNORE THE LAW, because there isn't an established legal definition?
That dawg aint gonna hunt buddy!
How about follow-up evidence that he wasn't born in Hawaii?
Amazing how not a single copy has shown up over here.
If I recall correctly, one could not travel to “Pokistan” with an American passport at the time he visited.
It would be nice if you could find that directive by the US State Department or whichever agency of the US that issued it. Everything I find doesn’t any ban on travel.
There is no law defining natural born citizen. It is instead only referenced once in the Constitution and there is no basis to the claim that one must be born of US citizen parents in order to be an NBC.
So, I guess the Republican Chief Justice of the United States, John Roberts, the Republican former Vice President of the United States, Dick Cheney and the entire Republican membership of the House and Senate are also involved in the political Coup d 'etat?
If yer parents ain't citizens? Whut does that make you?
OK..... Where's the BC?
Put up,......
As for Dick Cheney, he is doing a fabulous job showing what a sorry POW Obama is and how is trying to destroy this country by making the country “WEAK” through Foreign policy or lack of and most of all...how Obama and his gulag are already working toward destroying Capitalism.
Speaking of the House members there are those who have made statements and have you forgotten the Democrats are in total control of the Legislative Branch, Most of the Federal Courts, and The Executive? As for SCOTUS, they are basically split down the middle. So go whine somewhere else, because there is not any doubt Obama was “NOT” properly vetted.
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