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Boeing to duplicate Puget Sound work for 787
Seattle Times ^ | December 8, 2009 | Dominic Gates

Posted on 12/08/2009 10:31:38 AM PST by jazusamo

Boeing plans to make all the parts for the 787 Dreamliner currently produced in the Puget Sound region at a second location so that the second final assembly line being set up in North Charleston, S.C., can operate independently.

Local Boeing workers have long complained that only the vertical tail fin of the 787 Dreamliner is built in the Puget Sound region.

But now even that small claim to uniqueness is going to be shared, as Boeing continues to turn the screws on the Machinists union after their two-month strike in 2008.

The company said Monday it plans to use suppliers to replicate production of all 787 parts produced in its Puget Sound-area factories — in Auburn, Everett, Fredrickson — and in Portland, so that a second final-assembly line being established in North Charleston, S.C., can operate independently.

The plan includes setting up a second Boeing facility or finding a supplier to build the vertical tail fin, now made in a state-of-the-art composites-manufacturing center in Frederickson, near Tacoma.

But it appears likely the tail fin will be built by Boeing in Charleston in a building close to the second assembly line for which ground is being cleared.

Boeing spokesman Jim Proulx cited strikes in the Puget Sound region as a major factor in the decision. With a second supplier for every part, Boeing potentially could continue producing Dreamliners in South Carolina even if the Machinists went on strike here.

"Repeated labor disruptions have affected our performance in our customers' eyes," Proulx said. "We have to show our customers we can be a reliable supplier to them." The second production line "has to be able to go on regardless of what's happening over here," he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 787; boeing; southcarolina; unions; washington

1 posted on 12/08/2009 10:31:38 AM PST by jazusamo
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To: sionnsar; SC Swamp Fox

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2 posted on 12/08/2009 10:33:36 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Look at the auto industry and see what the unions did for them. Boeing is making smart business decisions.

Maybe the effite snobs in Seattle will be taken down a notch.

3 posted on 12/08/2009 10:34:10 AM PST by pfflier
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To: jazusamo
Just a little friendly advice for these glorious union guys: Start looking for another career yesterday or consider moving to South Carolina. People in supply chain management (of which I am one) cannot simply roll over and pass on costs for disruptive strikes in today's world.

Part of our job is to look for-- or create-- alternative supply sources where this risk is low.

4 posted on 12/08/2009 10:38:11 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: pfflier

Exactly, unions giving Obama $400 million to get their fair haired boy in may just backfire on them.


5 posted on 12/08/2009 10:38:26 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Vigilanteman

Correct, looks like Boeing is willing to invest big money so they won’t be dependent on unions, kind of an insurance policy.


6 posted on 12/08/2009 10:40:53 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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7 posted on 12/08/2009 10:42:29 AM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: jazusamo

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! Unions.


8 posted on 12/08/2009 10:42:42 AM PST by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: jazusamo

just remember atlas shrugged, when the producers started failing the takers, the takers passes a “you can’t quit” “you can’t fire” law.

Obama and the socialist thugs around him will try and regulate away closing down the union plant.


9 posted on 12/08/2009 10:42:52 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: jazusamo

I’ll increase my support for any company that 1) moves out of a blue state whilst simultaneously 2) screwing the corrupt unions.

Unions used to have a use - for the workers.

Unions still have a use - for the democrats.


10 posted on 12/08/2009 10:44:14 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: jazusamo

Just one more gradual step for Boeing’s eventual move to somewhere else other than Washington State. Since Wa has already killed the apple industry, farmers ingeneral, the timber industr, and commercial fishing - that will leave them with the retirement industry, the tourist industry, and the trust funders. And, of course, the growing criminal/drug industry.


11 posted on 12/08/2009 11:02:58 AM PST by PIF
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To: PIF
Don't forget Aluminum smelters, Gary Locke did these guys in during the Cali energy fiasco.

As a global company, Boeing cannot be held hostage by union greed or supplier incompetence. They are just doing what an rational business would do, organizing to best serve their customers.

The IAM has no one to blame but themselves.

schu

12 posted on 12/08/2009 11:11:31 AM PST by schu
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To: jazusamo

Hey Boeing employee unions, think about hitching a ride with the SEIU. They have the support of the illegal president.


13 posted on 12/08/2009 11:12:38 AM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: schu

The union basically shot themselves in the butt.

Boeing pretty much offered them guaranteed employment for ten years and to NOT move the work to Carolina IF the Union would give them an assurance of no strikes for ten years.

The union would not take it. Idjits. Sounded like a pretty sweet deal to me!


14 posted on 12/08/2009 11:16:45 AM PST by djf (Maybe life ain't about the doing - maybe it's just the trying... Hey, I don't make the rules!)
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To: schu

“The IAM has no one to blame but themselves.”

The citizens of Wa have no one to blame but themselves - as their economy crashs... as it did in the 60’s when Boeing shut down.

Aluminum smelters - yes but we were all glad that the Tacoma Aroma was gone - going there after the shut sown was oddly strange without the aroma.


15 posted on 12/08/2009 1:46:59 PM PST by PIF
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To: PIF
Tacoma Aroma ...

is from the Simpson Kraft mill. Smelters do not generally create the same “rotten eggs” smell of the sulfuric stench that emanate from chemical processing of pulp. I do believe Simpson has installed some pollution equipment to mitigate much of the smell. Kaiser closed the smelter in Tacoma in 2000.

There were a host of smelters along the Columbia who took advantage of the low cost of kilowatts provided by BPA and the dams on the river. Thousands of high paying, good industrial jobs were lost when the price for this critical component of smelting aluminum increased. Locke was instrumental in seeing this happen or did nothing to prevent it. He is the commerce secretary now BTW. What a joke.

The country wants a robust economy with good paying jobs? Quit chasing them away by stupid government policies and actions.

schu

16 posted on 12/08/2009 2:02:58 PM PST by schu
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To: schu

“The country wants a robust economy with good paying jobs? Quit chasing them away by stupid government policies and actions.”

But that would be contrary to Hussein’s Plan... !


17 posted on 12/08/2009 3:52:39 PM PST by PIF
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18 posted on 12/08/2009 4:46:15 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: Vigilanteman
or consider moving to South Carolina

Please, we don't want them to move here. If they do, they don't need to bring their union mentality here. We have enough people to do the job ourselves, thank you very much.

19 posted on 12/08/2009 4:53:36 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: PIF

That was the pulp plants, bud. Had nothing to do with the aluminum smelters.


20 posted on 12/09/2009 3:05:09 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: snippy_about_it
Please, we don't want them to move here. If they do, they don't need to bring their union mentality here. We have enough people to do the job ourselves, thank you very much.

Worth repeating. Keep your union asses in union states and go beg the gubmint for a handout.

21 posted on 12/09/2009 8:30:13 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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