Posted on 12/08/2009 8:43:16 PM PST by B-Chan
“Must be some sort of innate jungle tribal instinct just too difficult for their race to overcome.”
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Blacks have died in every war this country has ever fought!
I served with the finest Army in the world,,,66-69,,,
`Nam 67-68,,,TET’68,,,
Many of those guys were Black !,,,
Some got their names put on a long black wall,,,
Got It ?!...
So, you can utter a blatantly racist statement, and I'm "pulling the race card" if I call you on it?
That's not "pulling the race card". It's calling a thing exactly what it is. It's called truth.
You've read my other posts (so you claim) yet you insist that black people have caused their own condition. Fine. You have every right to believe what you want.
What I will say, is that black people are responsible for their own present time condition, but are they the authors of their initial debasement? No, they're not. That was done intentionally, by people who maneuvered blacks into a position where they could be exploited, manipulated, and degraded.
The devastation you see in the black community today wasn't created in just a few decades. It took generations to manufacture. Once blacks had been successfully degraded for several generations, the power of contagion took over. The community is so badly infected now, that it kills itself. No further effort is required. Time alone will finish black people off, unless there is a monumental effort on the part of individual blacks to escape the generational mental enslavement they've inherited from their environment.
He's not using the race card, you're just being a d!ck. If you can't use facts to back a reasoned argument, then you shouldn't be playing.
`Nam 67-68,,,TET’68,,,
Many of those guys were Black !,,,
Some got their names put on a long black wall,,,
My dad was a career soldier and Green Beret who did two tours of Nam in the mid sixties, and retired as a Lt. Col. My younger brother served honorably in the US Marines in the mid seventies. I want to thank you on their behalf for what you just said.
I’m not blaming anybody but the government for creating this mess. Individuals have the choice to come out of a bad circumstance, or not, but the odds are against you when the circumstance is overwhelming. When your entire family is mired in that same circumstance, as is every friend you have, your school doesn’t expect anything out of you and neither does society, it’s obvious that most eventually slide back into it. And, that’s what is happening.
I actually had to go and check your signup date, because your comments are genuinely trollish.
But I did grow up in “the black community”: a junior enlisted housing area of Fort Bragg, North Carolina, during the mid-1970s. We were, for most of the time we lived there, the only white people in the neighborhood. And believe me that there was plenty of “tribal instinct” among our black neighbors. We discovered very quickly and in no uncertain terms that we were not “of the tribe”.
My question is based upon the fact that, generally speaking, the quality of life in any given locality varies inversely with the percentage its residents whom are of non-Arab African or African-diaspora origin. This inverse relationship exists at all levels of government, from communities to continents, and exists independent of economic circumstances: compare Vermont to Mississippi, Minnesota to Maryland, Detroit to Omaha, Jamaica to Singapore, South Africa under apartheid to South Africa today. Where whites or Asians are in the majority, or where members of these groups control the government, the society is more-or-less safe, civic, and orderly. Where there are large black populations, or where blacks are in charge of civil government, there is crime, tribalism, chaos. There must be some reason for this.
I think there is, and I think the reason is “tribal instinct” — or, to use a more accurate phrase, culture. I think black culture is broken — not just here in the States, but in Africa. I think the only way things are going to improve for black people around the world is for them to essentially stop “being black” — stop identifying themselves with black culture, values, and identity — and adopt “white” (i.e. European-American, Judeo-Christian) culture, values, and identity.
I’m sorry if this offends you, but I have to be honest: I don’t think the racial situation in the U.S. is salvageable. I don’t think we can all “just get along”. I think that the cultural differences are just too great overall. I think it’s going to come down to the re-segregation of society, by a voluntary process if we’re lucky. Otherwise, it’s a Camp of the Saints scenario — and God help us all if it ever comes to that.
Quite welcome,Sir,,,
Lemmy guess ?,,,
5th.SF Group at Na Trang,,,Worked for a guy named “BO’”,,,
Fired boo-koo arty in their AO...;0)
This sort of gangster thuggery has plagued the black community for a very long time, and in much greater depth than it has on the rest of the culture. You don't hear about the atrocities that occur in "the hood" too often, but there's a near epidemic of violence occurring there.
No people are innately so self-destructive.
I merely made my own conjecture about the reasons why the above statements are true about black folk not just here but the world over. All races have distinctive inbred traits about them, blacks seem to be excessively prone to being violent. Now I'm being told that's a racist idea. Why? Yes it could be racist and then again it could be the truth. Blacks seem to be more athletic than whites overall, is that racist too?
So you don’t think it’s possible, even likely, that the “epidemic of violence” that Windflier was talking about could possibly be environmentally driven? Or are all blacks just genetically programmed to be uncouth savages?
The fact is we all have the genetic programming to be monsters; unfortunately it’s encouraged behavior in “da hood.” It’s glamorized and mimicked by new generation after new generation.
The sad fact is, the current generation (and probably the next generation) of blacks are mostly lost to the “thug” mentality perpetrated by their own popular entertainers and sports stars (role models for “thug life”, all). Blacks in general won’t listen to whites in general, especially for advice about how to clean up their house. That means they’ll have to police their own. Bill Cosby tried it and made a noble effort, but it’s going to take a lot more than that. I don’t see it happening anytime soon, unfortunately.
Your conjecture is merely a blanket, idiotic statement. We can all be awful people to some degree or another, it doesn’t matter where our ancestors come from. That’s why I’m not running around like a Scottish Highlander, that’s why I was never blown up on a patrol by an Arab Christian.
I’m personally very cynical about the so-called “black community,” too, but your statement was illogical, insulting, and inappropriate.
5th.SF Group at Na Trang,,,Worked for a guy named “BO’”,,,
Ya got me. I'll have to ask him. I was a pre-teen during the time he was in country, and never knew any of the details of his deployments. He used to show me aftermath photos sometimes, though. Serious destruction.
Major Crittenden Bell, Special Forces, Vietnam. Early 1964 to late 1966. That's all I know.
He took the time to write up and document his whole military career after he retired. It's nicely bound in volumes, which he's willed to me. On the day that I open them, I'll finally know what Daddy did in the war. Like a lot of vets, it's not something he talks about with people who weren't there.
Scottish Borders blood here. Clan Bell.
In Europe, the socialist aspects to the Welfare state and unfettered and unassimilable masses of Arab immigrants (and African) act in much the same way. In England, there is a distinctly white (though also other ethnicities) native culture of violence and sociopathy—why? due to the intrusion of the Welfare State, the superfluity of the male role and father in the family, the infantilization of the people by an ever-enlarged State. There is a high level of violence even amongst many whites in England.
Juvenile crime shoots up when you remove fathers from the equation and even softer forms of socialism (perhaps moreso because it’s ‘soft’) tends to breed shiftless and directionless classes of males who engage in violence, indiscriminate paternity and antisocial behavior.
Theodore Dalrymple wrote a book on his experiences and that was mainly with the white underclass in the UK.
That's the problem whenever you try to get to the root of the Black dilemma in this country. Whites are too worried about being called racist if they dare try to discuss any possible reasons for the black scourge of violence within and without the black community. Only one way of thinking is allowed, it's whitey's fault.
I'm being called a racist merely for raising ideas that more than likely many others think also. Blaming whitey is a cop-out and gives blacks a pass. They blame whitey, and you blame whitey. In the end it's still all because of whitey. Guess blacks don't possess the intelligence to outwit ol' whitey, huh?
Bingo.
You've said it more directly, and in a more down to earth way than I managed to. That is the precise dynamic at work.
Thanks for posting that. I’m going to read more thoroughly tomorrow. On another thread (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2392976/posts), a FReeper posted this video:
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/6/Sucker-punch-at-McDonalds-321220.html
The victim in the video says the punch came out of nowhere, but the reporter says the victim said he did notice that the guy followed him in. The victim isn’t looking at the guy, but in the video you can clearly see that he’s gearing up to do something.
You're right. Black culture is broken, and it has been for a very long time now. I've said elsewhere on this thread that I believe this condition was purposely manufactured and produced by those who fully intended nothing less than genocide against the black race.
In the US, blacks who have grown up within the mainstream of American culture are homogenized and fully integrated. You may not know any, but we're out here.
You're entirely correct that blacks must individually and collectively decide to join with the rest of their countrymen as Americans, if they're to succeed. Individuation from the larger group and culture is a low level form of treason, in my estimation, and only results in a lowered survival potential for those who practice it.
I know that I'm black, but I don't walk around "feeling" that way. If anything, I relate to, and feel a common bond with the other Americans around me. My greatest survival impulses consistently push in the direction of the group that I actually belong to.
Blacks, or anyone else for that matter, whose survival impulses are directed toward belonging to, and forwarding the survival of some perceived sub-group are doing themselves and America a terrible disservice because they're actually working against the survival aims of the true group.
Big topic. This could go on for weeks, but we really have bigger business to attend to. We've got Marxists to unseat.
I know we owe them since our ancestors owned theirs once....fair’s fair.
Where do I sign up to be slaughtered as recompense?
FWIW : Col. “BO’” Gritz was the CO of the 5th.SF. GP.
in those days,,,
They had big brass ones,,,
They clanged when they walked...
Sure, just pick any town with a sizable black population, and make yourself available late at night in some cases just at dusk, how bout Nashville? Or Memphis?
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