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Atheists at Christmas: Eat, drink and be wary
AP ^ | Dec. 9, 2009 | PATRICK CONDON

Posted on 12/13/2009 9:14:32 PM PST by smokingfrog

Angie O'Neill recently moved into a new apartment complex for seniors and she's trying to make new friends. But Christmas is a tough time of year for an atheist.

"All the planned activities at this time of year revolve around the church," said O'Neill, a retiree and an atheist for decades.

O'Neill sought an escape this week, joining a group of her fellow nonbelievers for a weekly "Atheist Happy Hour" at a suburban Mexican restaurant. The group, Atheists for Human Rights, is active year-round but takes it up a notch this time of year with a Winter Solstice party, a charity drive and good attendance for the weekly gathering at Ol' Mexico.

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"What we're celebrating this year is the promise of the sun returning. That's S-U-N, not S-O-N," said Bill Weir, a retired marketing executive from Plymouth.

"Then the Christians stole it," added Marie Alena Castle of Minneapolis, the 82-year-old founder of Atheists for Human Rights and an atheist activist for two decades. It's a season of celebration for the Jewish faith as well, with Hanukkah.

Still, none of the atheists interviewed for this story expressed a wish to be left out of Christmas entirely.

"Food, we like. Presents, we like. Seeing family, we like," said Val Woelfel of St. Paul, an aspiring archaeologist. Woelfel, 47, and her boyfriend, Bjorn Larsen, 32, planned to erect a tree in their living room: "Sacred trees are an ancient custom. It's pretty, it smells nice and it's pagan," Woelfel said.

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Castle, the veteran activist, said people shouldn't cave in to the notion that Christmas belongs to Christians.

"Baby Jesus is just an excuse for a lot of people to party, anyway," Castle said. "Enjoy your friends. Eat, drink and be merry."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
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To: smokingfrog
Even Ayn Rand enjoyed Christmas. She loved the spirit of the season; the enjoinment of "Peace on earth. Goodwill towards mankind"; the pageantry—commercially and spiritually; the creative decorations and displays that neighbor and merchant alike would assemble to win praise and customers. In short, she loved the creative effort put into it, the gift-giving to one another, and the happiness people derived from it.
41 posted on 12/13/2009 11:57:45 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: smokingfrog
people shouldn't cave in to the notion that Christmas belongs to Christians.

Christmas = Christ's Mass. Hello???!!! Christ is an integral part of Christmas (and actually every other thing that ever existed, exists now and ever will exist, but that is a different discussion!). Without Christ, Dec. 25 is just a day on the calendar.

42 posted on 12/14/2009 12:30:48 AM PST by Jemian ( With fronds like these, who needs anemones?)
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To: smokingfrog
As an atheist, the worst time of year is any time I have to read about the fiction of the persecution of atheists. I love Christmas, respect my believing Christian family and friends, and unlike the turds in this story, don't think everything has to be about MEEEEE and my personal beliefs all the time. I make a point of saying Merry CHRISTmas to everyone, am the loudest one to mock local schools for cutting Christmas out of their "holiday" events...

Complete and utter foolishness. The people in this article are indicative of the liberal mindset at its worst--"inclusion" has been corrupted to mean "pushing Christianity out of a majority-Christian society."

43 posted on 12/14/2009 1:08:03 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
For tomorrow you die? Would that it worked that way.

You have any evidence it doesn't?

44 posted on 12/14/2009 5:11:14 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. - Horace Walpole)
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To: Rembrandt

“Anyone who’s been in the military remembers the old saying -there are no atheists in fox holes.”

I’ve heard that before — my boss’s bomber was shot down over Yugoslavia during WW2. He and his buddies spent the night dispersed across a field, hiding in foxholes waiting to be picked up by a daring touch-and-go rescue. He said those tough-guy atheists were crying and praying their heads off for deliverance.


45 posted on 12/14/2009 1:21:48 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: grey_whiskers

I bet the carpets in her apartment are spotless.


46 posted on 12/14/2009 1:25:06 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: smokingfrog

“Atheists for Human Rights”

Always the victim


47 posted on 12/14/2009 1:26:22 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

We are commanded to not accept Christ on blind faith -

that’s what the “all your mind” portion is in reference to.
(Mark 12:30)


48 posted on 12/14/2009 1:27:27 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Darkwolf377

As an atheist, I celebrated Christmas. The religious part I just viewed as cultural. I could sing “Silent Night” without being offended. It was a cool song.

As a Christian, I celebrate the Winter Solstice by toasting the coming of longer days and feeding the birds. I see no religious point in it but I don’t get invitations for Solstice parties anyway. Buncha scrooges.


49 posted on 12/14/2009 1:32:04 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: MrB

Totally, yes. Why do people search Scripture for answers? Why does Christ say ‘don’t let your self be deceived by false prophets?’ We see things and see evidence FOR God. Evidence FOR Christ being who He is, and it strengthens our faith. It makes it stronger. Every archaelogical point in Scripture that people have scoffed at has eventually been confirmed to be true. We have history described in the bible confirmed by secular scientists. Trying to confirm the bible was the last thing on their minds. It lends credence that what the bible says is true, and the events that have been described are true.


50 posted on 12/14/2009 1:34:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Actually, Hallowe’en (All Hallow’s Eve) was a Christian celebration that has been usurped by the secular world and turned into an orgy of materialism and greed instead of the sobering remembrance of the saints and other doers-of-good like Mother Teresa et al.

All Hallow’s Eve immediately precedes “All Saints’ Day”, a day where devout Christians of many denominations set an extra place at the table for the dead, in their memory.


51 posted on 12/14/2009 3:03:05 PM PST by Don W (I keep some people's numbers in my phone so I know not to answer when they call)
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To: Oztrich Boy
You have any evidence it doesn't?

I don't think it's that efficient, like 1-2-3 BANG! Consequently we have to endure boorish people longer than we'd like.

52 posted on 12/14/2009 3:10:01 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (free enterprise (the first word is a verb))
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To: Secret Agent Man
"He even gives us the faith to believe. Since our sin natures naturally resist anything from Him, He has to do even this for us, give us the ability to believe."

Yeah, it's pretty amazing, isn't it. But, I wonder why some of us are more blessed than others, in that regard.

53 posted on 12/16/2009 8:23:58 AM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: jackibutterfly

Well, those that want to find God, sincerely, WILL find Him. He also says that. Everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord, will be saved. God desires all men to be saved. Not all men want God. It is a consequence of free will. And God respects a person’s right to say yes or no to Him, that He will not force Himself onto them and make them believe or love Him. Those that He gives the faith to believe are those genuinely seeking God, not necessarily those that merely want an intellectual or philosophical answer to another question, or who don’t expect an answer because they don’t believe in God, or are hoping they don’t get an answer because that would mean there IS a God.


54 posted on 12/16/2009 10:25:13 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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