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The Salvation Army - naughty or nice?
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 12/14/9 | Phil Bronstein

Posted on 12/14/2009 12:45:15 PM PST by SmithL

The halls aren't the only thing getting decked this holiday season.

The Salvation Army, the country's biggest charity, is taking it full on the chin from a social media network mobilized against the organization's position on homosexuality and other social sins. Twitter, Facebook and gay Web sites are lit up with protest and calls for donor boycotts.

The Army's official same-sex statement suggests it's unlikely those cheery volunteers ringing bells over red kettles will be donning gay apparel anytime soon.

While homosexuals are not "blameworthy," ... "Scripture forbids sexual intimacy between members of the same sex." The Army is an unabashedly evangelical, religious entity, after all, and has also resisted domestic partner benefits for its employees.

Last month, there was another stink about the Army's Houston division demanding to see Social Security cards of needy parents before providing toys for their kids. Angry protesters claimed this was discrimination against cardless illegal immigrants.

Before we take the predictable San Francisco, to-the-barricades view on all this, let's consider the Catholic concept of "proportionalism." This means (roughly, my interpretation) that bad conduct can be acceptable if a much greater good is being accomplished.

The Salvation Army served 33 million people in the United States last year. It raises about $2 billion a year and spends an impressive 89 percent of that on services - food, shelter, foster care and HIV programs.

It is a consistent and reliable disaster relief group.

"The first hand that reaches to pull you from the rubble of our next earthquake," Shea O'Neill wrote on the SFAppeal Web site last week, "will be the anti-gay hand of the Salvation Army."

There's no whitewashing their beliefs, if you oppose them, though the Army mission also is clear that its relief services are available to anyone "without regard to sexual orientation."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: charity; christmas; gaystapo; homonaziagenda; homonazis; homonazism; homosexualagenda; salvationarmy
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To: dsc

I’ve gotta call bs on your #2. I would request evidence of this. There may be a correlation between homosexuals and pedophilia but there is evidence suggesting “most if not all” homosexuals are attracted to children.

I would even infer that most pedophiles are heterosexual males. Most gays are not pedophiles like most heterosexuals are not attracted to little girls.


141 posted on 12/14/2009 1:52:02 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Just because we disagree on the existance of your God is no need to name call.


142 posted on 12/14/2009 1:52:12 PM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: Gator113
"It’s also not normal to screw chickens or stuff gerbils, fists, popcorn, old hubcaps, tractor tires and tv remotes up ones rear."

BWWWHHHAAAAAA!!!!

"Maybe I’m just too picky, but sex through some hole carved into the wall of a mens room stall, just doesn’t seen normal to me."

You're not, "picky", you're much worse than that.
You're normal. LOL

143 posted on 12/14/2009 1:52:39 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: SmithL

Boo,hoo.Poor illegals.My heart bleeds....


144 posted on 12/14/2009 1:52:39 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: TheSuaveOne

Your hatred is clear; I have no interest in internet one-ups-manship. If you think they are swell, that’s fine.

It’s apparent, however, that you are at least bothered by their moral stance.

Why do you care? It is apparent you are bothered because you know they are right. Your very soul condemns you, whether you admit it or not.

That, however, is between you and the G-d you deny. You answer to him, not to me or the Salvation Army. If you think we are all wet, then go along your merry way, and forgive us our bronze age silliness, the relics of an earlier age that we are.


145 posted on 12/14/2009 1:52:57 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: TheSuaveOne

Morality is never moot.


146 posted on 12/14/2009 1:53:20 PM PST by RoadGumby (God did not evolve mankind from pond scum, but it might be easy to think that about liberals)
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To: dsc

Try again, I’m not an Atheist. :)


147 posted on 12/14/2009 1:55:04 PM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: Landru

;>)


148 posted on 12/14/2009 1:57:11 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: SmithL
The Salvation Army served 33 million people in the United States last year. It raises about $2 billion a year and spends an impressive 89 percent of that on services - food, shelter, foster care and HIV programs.

And the gay lobby would rather those 33 million people helped with food, shelter and HIV programs be unhelped.

149 posted on 12/14/2009 1:57:21 PM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: Jewbacca

I’m sorry you believe that, but I don’t hate anyone or anything. *hugs*


150 posted on 12/14/2009 1:57:26 PM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: TheSuaveOne

Not being able to recognize unGodly behavior, I would opine that you are not Christian either.


151 posted on 12/14/2009 1:58:26 PM PST by RoadGumby (God did not evolve mankind from pond scum, but it might be easy to think that about liberals)
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To: TheSuaveOne

“Try again, I’m not an Atheist. :)”

Yes, you are.


152 posted on 12/14/2009 1:59:25 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: RoadGumby

I never claimed to be Christian either. You probably should stop assuming, lol.


153 posted on 12/14/2009 1:59:25 PM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: dsc

Ummm, no I am not.


154 posted on 12/14/2009 2:00:11 PM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: TheSuaveOne
But... You ARE a Troll!

Get lost, try DU land where they’ll appreciate your “wisdom”!

155 posted on 12/14/2009 2:01:25 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: SmithL

Sally is the ONLY charity I give money to. When I was stationed in Philly, they put me up until my quarters were authorized. All well and good. BUT when I went to ‘Nam, who sent me a fruitcake for Christmas, but Sally. And I hadn’t bunked there in well over a year.

My Pop always spoke highly of the work they did in WW II, too.


156 posted on 12/14/2009 2:02:45 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: RoadGumby
"Yes ridicule an organiztion because they make a moral stand. Another of their moral stands is that if help is needed, they’ll give it, regardless of orientation. Even you would receive their help, if needed."

Ummmmm, I'd like to suggest you reread what I wrote. Sounds like you've my commentary 180* out of phase, my friend.

The SA (& every one of their people) is the only charity I support and have supported for years.
That the homosexuals would attack the SA based solely on their biblical stance to their perverted behavior(s) is below despicable. The only thing making any sense whatsoever is that this smear would appear in the filthy rag allegedly representing the city of SF.

OT: I've been a bell ringer for the SA.
Stood for hours outside a Target store, in freezing cold; and, while most people contributing did so in/with the proper spirit? There're stories I could tell of the utter contempt worn on faces of some, were to me personally, quite sobering as well.

157 posted on 12/14/2009 2:02:49 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: Gaffer
there was another stink about the Army's Houston division demanding to see Social Security cards of needy parents before providing toys for their kids. Angry protesters claimed this was discrimination against cardless illegal immigrants.

Houston has a gay mayor...What do they want??

158 posted on 12/14/2009 2:04:18 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: TheSuaveOne

As I said it was obvious. Sad for you, just know G-d does love you anyway, even though, without salvation, you’ll get to hear some sad words at His throne. While you give cutesy *hugs* to Jewbacca, we’ll both pray for you, that G-d would do whatever necessary to trouble your heart and lead you to Him.


159 posted on 12/14/2009 2:04:29 PM PST by RoadGumby (God did not evolve mankind from pond scum, but it might be easy to think that about liberals)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Troll? Not at all.

Someone you appear to disagree with. You betcha.


160 posted on 12/14/2009 2:04:33 PM PST by TheSuaveOne
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