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Breaking: Lieberman wins, Senate drops Medicare buy-in
Hot Air ^ | Dec.14, 2009 | Allahpundit

Posted on 12/14/2009 4:20:21 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Major Garrett’s in the hall outside the Democratic caucus room and tweeting the word from Tom Harkin. Can’t really call this good news, as it makes passage much more likely, so let’s call it slightly-better-than-worst-case-scenario news. No more public option:

Asked by a reporter if the Medicare buy-in will be pulled out, Harkin said “looks that way,” before praising a Democratic health care bill without the two public option compromises.

“There’s enough good in this bill that even without those two, we gotta move,” he said. “All the insurance reforms, all the stuff we wrote so hard for prevention and wellness in there, the workforce development issues that we have in there, the reimbursement based on quality not on quantity — there’s good stuff in this bill. It’s a giant step forward, changing the paradigm of health care in America.”

Lieberman said he can (read: will) vote for the bill without the public plan provisions. Reaction, straight off the top of my head: (1) Kind of surprising that neither Snowe nor Collins defected to bail Reid out, eh? Now that he’s back to 60-ish, I wonder if they or Nelson, Bayh, Lincoln, etc. will suddenly ramp up their own demands. (2) The Democrats are so frantic to pass something at this point — e.g., there was a rumor floated earlier today that Emanuel was pressuring Reid to use reconciliation — that Pelosi will almost certainly want to ping-pong the Senate bill. Will the absence of a public option convince Blue Dogs who voted no on the House bill to vote yes this time or will the gruesome polling scare them away?

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; harryreid; lieberman; medicare; medicare55
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To: Fester Chugabrew
We'd all be far better off if they drank a batch of Jim Jones Cool-Aid.
81 posted on 12/14/2009 5:36:39 PM PST by peeps36 (Democrats Don't Need No Stinking Input From You Little People)
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To: dan1123
"The tax code is what makes it that way, and distorts the market through a pile of regulations"

Exactly; the FDR programs were the large start of government interference with the private sector, and has grown through regulations/oversight, etc., to a complex tax code to cater to special interests' protection. This new "Socialized Medicine-Lite" that's coming will be the same as the "temporary income tax", that has grown, grown, and continues to grow, until it becomes strangulation of private competitors/market-based competition.

82 posted on 12/14/2009 5:40:21 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Petronski
That Lieberman sure strikes an easy bargain.

Definition of a whore is not based on price.

83 posted on 12/14/2009 5:44:51 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: sirchtruth

Tomorrow is a very important day - keep calling your senators. Make them feel the heat.

Senate switchboard is 202-224-3121


84 posted on 12/14/2009 5:45:41 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: VicVega; All

As of now Reid does not have the votes, but it could go either way. Keep the pressue on, and thanks to the folks who will attend the rally in D.C. tomorrow.


85 posted on 12/14/2009 5:48:52 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: pburgh01

They will pass whatever they can and be very satisfied because this will be the foot in the door and the first step to their ultimate goal.


86 posted on 12/14/2009 5:48:52 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ryan71
"I want NO bill!"

We're with you ryan.

They get anything through all they will do is add to it in the future. And Obastard gets to say he got a health bill through.

87 posted on 12/14/2009 5:50:48 PM PST by AGreatPer (Impeach Obama)
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To: Sun
and thanks to the folks who will attend the rally in D.C. tomorrow.

I second that.

88 posted on 12/14/2009 5:54:11 PM PST by VicVega (I care more about Congress bending me over than who Tiger is bending over.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And now Reid has 60 votes. Wonderful.


89 posted on 12/14/2009 6:10:42 PM PST by pabianice
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To: OldDeckHand
Does anyone know what happens when it comes out of conference committee (which will surely put the public option back in)? Will the floor vote be subject to filibuster, or do they just need a simple majority?

Simple majority to reinsert public option, public abortion money, gutting Medicare.

90 posted on 12/14/2009 6:13:12 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Petronski
That Lieberman sure strikes an easy bargain.

It was never about the Medicare with him. I guarantee some back door deal was done and somehow Lieberman will get some pet pork project he always wanted. These people are the scum of the known galaxy.

91 posted on 12/14/2009 6:28:05 PM PST by raybbr (If you try to kiss your son on the head while he's running you WILL get a fat lip.)
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To: mwl8787

“Senate switchboard is 202-224-3121”

Mine are hopeless. Should we target just a few like Lincoln and Nelson?


92 posted on 12/14/2009 6:30:39 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: BP2

Three winkled prunes there...Sten Hoyer, Nancy Pelosi, Dingy Harry Reid. All equally corrupt, all equally evil, all destined for eternale hell & everlasting fire in the Lake of Fire. Their evil deeds & corrupt way of life will haunt them throughout eternity!!!


93 posted on 12/14/2009 6:41:56 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Medicare buy-in was never committed to paper for anyone outside Reid’s office to see. It was vaporware. But now it’s no longer in the bill. What kind of a victory is that?

Kinda like a store raising the price of an item by 20%, then advertising it for 20% off, making the price the same as it was.

Sheesh, is anybody tracking this thing as it progresses?


94 posted on 12/14/2009 6:50:54 PM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Fu-fu2

Call everyone you can


95 posted on 12/14/2009 6:53:32 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: sirchtruth

I say we hire lawyers and file suit against the US congress stating they passed a bill they had not written. It shouldn’t take too many people to sign a petition to prove that we have standing. This is beyond idiocy that they are doing things like this. I don’t think they have the right.


96 posted on 12/14/2009 6:57:19 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Bull crap. Bull Crap BULL CRAP!
Bull crap. Bull Crap BULL CRAP!
Bull crap. Bull Crap BULL CRAP!
NEVER TRUST A DEMOCRAT!
NEVER TRUST A DEMOCRAT!
NEVER TRUST A DEMOCRAT!

NO PUBLIC OPTION MEANS TRIGGER MEANS PUBLIC OPTION MEANS PUBLIC OPTION MEANS NATIONAL HEALTHCARE.

How stupid do we have to be to self-destruct the U.S.A.???

If this passes, that’s it. We don’t exist.


97 posted on 12/14/2009 6:57:47 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

>>We’d be *far* better off if they’d all just sit around playing Solitaire on their laptops.

Hell, give them $1000 a day for online poker or porn out of the public till. We’d still be vastly better off.


98 posted on 12/14/2009 6:58:16 PM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: ought-six

Yup. Now we have to get it back.

Yup, let’s friggen roll, or die.


99 posted on 12/14/2009 6:59:36 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat rescue officer's dad,)
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To: traditional1
Another power grab is almost complete.

And the next Revolution is just around the corner.

100 posted on 12/14/2009 7:00:39 PM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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