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Monica's back – says Clinton lied
Politico.com ^ | 12/17/09 | JOSH GERSTEIN & JOHN F. HARRIS

Posted on 12/17/2009 11:56:42 AM PST by OldDeckHand

In the years since their bitter battle, both former President Bill Clinton and independent counsel Ken Starr have predicted they’d be vindicated in the history books.

Now the first definitive history of the Clinton scandal is about to arrive – and neither man can be completely happy about his portrayal in its pages.

“The Death of American Virtue,” due out in February, asserts that Clinton had yet another extramarital affair, with Susan McDougal of Whitewater fame. Also in the book, Monica Lewinsky tells author Ken Gormley that she believes the president lied under oath when he described their encounters.

At the same time, Gormley offers a harsh portrait of Starr as a man out of his depth and who lost all sense of proportion. His interviews offer new ammunition to critics who contend the Lewinsky investigation was marred at its outset by improper questioning of Lewinsky in January 1998 by Starr’s lieutenants, who continued to grill her even after she asked for a lawyer.

Two presidents later, the saga feels like a far-off chapter in the nation’s history but the book makes clear that the principals, including Clinton himself, remain keenly interested in squaring the historical record to their liking.

In three interviews with the author, Clinton makes clear – to no surprise of longtime observers of the 42nd president – how aggrieved his continues to feel over the whole episode, unspooling a stream of choice invective about his other accusers. In Clinton’s telling, the head of the House impeachment team, Henry Hyde, is a “bitter right-winger” and “hypocrite,” and the judge who cited Clinton for civil contempt was merely currying favor with the conservative wing of the GOP.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; impeachment; monica; monicalewinsky; starr; whitewater
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To: FrankR

Somebody is not happy that Hitlery has such good poll numbers.

After all, there are comments in the book about Henry Hyde. The man is dead and buried. This book has been held in waiting for just the right moment.

Info about Hitlery’s crimes too. What a shock. She lied, he lied, and Monica is still a tramp.


41 posted on 12/17/2009 12:42:51 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: OldDeckHand

Give her another ten years and she’ll admit he forced himself on her the first time. He’ll probably be dead by then fwiw.


42 posted on 12/17/2009 12:46:26 PM PST by John W (The more predictable we are, the more vulnerable we are.)
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To: Bob Buchholz

Oh come on. It’s very common for people in plane crashes to be found with a .45 caliber hole in the back of their head.

And it is very frequent for flight attendants to survive a crash with only and minor leg wound, and then die on the way to the hospital.

You need to get control of your obviously overactive imagination. Nothing to see here, move along.


43 posted on 12/17/2009 12:49:58 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Harley

ROFL


44 posted on 12/17/2009 12:53:43 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: OldDeckHand
Have you seen her lately???


45 posted on 12/17/2009 12:58:09 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Promoted by God to be a mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................Thanks, Susan!)
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To: OldDeckHand
Clinton had yet another extramarital affair, with Susan McDougal of Whitewater fame.

Duh. Anybody who was hanging out here during that era knew this.

Henry Hyde, is a “bitter right-winger” and “hypocrite,”

Henry Hyde was a weak tea RINO at best. Describing him as a right winger works only if you stand him next to Vladimir Lenin.

46 posted on 12/17/2009 1:10:53 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Have you seen her lately???

Yep.


47 posted on 12/17/2009 1:12:07 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: OldDeckHand
a harsh portrait of Starr as a man out of his depth and who lost all sense of proportion

Starr was assigned to investigate Clinton's "private" affairs by Reno, which is to say, by the Clinton administration while the real crimes, the Chinese connections and so forth were bottled up inside the Justice Department, never to see the light of day.

The Starr show was candy for the press. It was a diversion.

48 posted on 12/17/2009 1:15:52 PM PST by marron
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To: OldDeckHand

Some words you will NEVER hear.....”Mom, Dad, I’d like you to meet my fiance’, Monica Lewinski.”


49 posted on 12/17/2009 1:22:43 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: OldDeckHand

I bet she still votes democrat.


50 posted on 12/17/2009 1:25:32 PM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: OldDeckHand
for a number of years, she was bound by an agreement with the Office of Independent Counsel that forbade her from writing a book.

Wow! I didn't know that. I hope she was VERY well compensated for entering into that agreement, but I can't see how the Office of Independent Counsel could legally compensate her for something like that, nor do I see how they could force it on her without compensation. I'd love to know more about this if you can point me to any informative source(s).

51 posted on 12/17/2009 1:35:07 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: LouAvul

....the greatest con man since Oral Roberts....

A true success story. Hey, its the American way. At least the American way that gets in the history books.


52 posted on 12/17/2009 1:40:20 PM PST by mono
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"Wow! I didn't know that. I hope she was VERY well compensated for entering into that agreement, but I can't see how the Office of Independent Counsel could legally compensate her for something like that, nor do I see how they could force it on her without compensation."

Lewinksy was granted use immunity for her cooperation with Starr. It was part of her immunity deal.

53 posted on 12/17/2009 1:40:29 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I could be mistaken - she may have been granted transactional immunity, not use immunity. It’s been so long, I can’t remember anymore.


54 posted on 12/17/2009 1:41:50 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Bon mots
".....shake the very ground"


55 posted on 12/17/2009 1:42:42 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: OldDeckHand

Remind me what she needed immunity for. Is it illegal for a young White House intern to accept an invitation from the President of the United States to come into the Oval Office and give him a blow job? Offhand I can’t think of anything she’s known to have done that any prosecuting authority would even dream of pressing charges for.


56 posted on 12/17/2009 2:14:06 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Obama is Clinton II

Obama — History as a coke user
Clinton — History as a coke user

Obama — Running all over the world apologizing for America
Clinton — Running all over the world apologizing for slavery

Obama — Obamacare
Clinton — Hillary care

Obama —in Bed with Ayers
Clinton —leads anti American protest in England Hillary in Bed with Black Panthers

Obama — Fake photo ops with returning military caskets
Clinton — Fake building of a cross on DDay Beach and Fake finding a flag at WWII cemetery in
Europe

Obama — New gun control from Holder
Clinton — Brady Bill and Assault Weapons Ban

Obama — Taking 3 months to decide on new troops
Clinton — Denying Armor in Samolia

Obama — Enemies List
Clinton — Filegate

Obama — Playing Golf while waiting to decide on troops in Afganistan
Clinton — Playing golf and not taking the phone call to take out Bin Laden

Obama — Blaming Fox News Rush Limbaugh Glenn Beck
Clinton — Blaming Talk Radio for Oke City and blaming Fox News and Wash Times

Obama — No Middle Class Taxes —Gonna get a tax increase
Clinton Promised Middle Class Tax Cut instead new Tax Bill

Obama — Promised Most Transparent administration in history — Least transparent
Clinton — Promised most ethical administration in history —most corrupt

Obama — Everybody’s fault but his
Clinton — Everybody’s fault but his

Clinton — IRS auditing of all major Conservative Organizations
Obama — April ain’t here yet

Clinton —WACO—Secrets to the Chicoms—Lincoln Bedroom rent out—Pay for trade plane ride
Whitewater—Monicagate—Gays in the Military—Abortion —Wrong War in the Balkans
Groundwork for 911(Berger steals proof )—Pardons Puerto Rican Terrorists
Obama— Gay Czars—Abortion -—Moves detainees from Gitmo —Civilian trial for 911
masrtermind —more coming only been in office a year

Obama — Ruins economy with spending
Clinton— Lays groundwork for Mortgage Melt Down —Raises taxes ( but gets bailed out with
Greenspan fed rate cuts )

Clinton — 1994 GOP takes Congress
Obama — 2010 LET’S HOPE


57 posted on 12/17/2009 2:21:42 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
I wish he were back in the White House, and its current occupant were not.

Too many people here have short memories

See my post 57
58 posted on 12/17/2009 2:24:40 PM PST by uncbob
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To: BenLurkin
“The era of big government is over.”

The era of Constitutional Government is over.

59 posted on 12/17/2009 2:31:13 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (<I>)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"Is it illegal for a young White House intern to accept an invitation from the President of the United States to come into the Oval Office and give him a blow job?"

No. And, that's not why Clinton was impeached. Clinton was impeached for lying under oath about the affair in a unrelated civil matter. It's my recollection that Lewinsky may have been in some criminal jeopardy for either lying to investors (which is a federal crime), or helping to mislead or obstruct investigators about the affair. Also, there was some speculation that her mother (name escapes) may have instructed and coached her to give misleading or inaccurate information in her grand jury testimony.

Whatever the reason(s) Lewisnky and her mother needed immunity, it was most certainly granted. After a bout of fire-the-attorney, Lewinsky finally settled on Plato Cocheris who negotiated both immunity agreements at the same time - Lewsinsky's cooperation with prosecutes (remember, up until that point, she was an uncooperative witness), was predicated entirely on her and her mother receiving immunity.

More can be read here...

Key Player: Monica S. Lewinsky

60 posted on 12/17/2009 2:33:08 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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