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Pistol Blows up in Marshall County Deputy's Hand
WTRF-TV ^ | December 4, 2009 | Leigh Ann Towne

Posted on 12/18/2009 7:27:05 AM PST by Sam_Damon

A Marshall County Sheriff’s Deputy is recovering after a pistol blew up on Tuesday (November 30 -- sd) during qualifications, according to Chief Deputy Kevin Cecil.

The veteran officer was using a Glock 21 .45 caliber pistol with out of country ammunition at a shooting range outside of Moundsville, Cecil said.

It’s believed the ammunition was bad, causing the receiver to blow apart in the sergeant’s hand.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; glock; police
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To: Tallguy
There's a small portion of the case that isn't well supported in the 1911A1, but it's at the strongest part of the case, where it meets the base.

If you really load up with a fast burning powder and you use often-reloaded cases, you'll find a bulge at the base of your shells to match the side of the receiver.

But I have never had one blow there. Plenty of cracked case mouths when I used a hull once too often . . .

I had heard all the reports (no pun intended) of Glock "kabooms" myself, so when I was looking for a DA pistol I went with the Sig instead. Just comparing the two, I thought the fit and finish on the Glock were inferior. That of course doesn't necessarily mean the working parts are bad, but it indicates to me a lack of attention to detail that might carry over into design and/or manufacture.

41 posted on 12/18/2009 7:56:59 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: TLI; All

Thanks for the links. Educational. Thanks to all posters.


42 posted on 12/18/2009 7:57:12 AM PST by PGalt
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To: SJSAMPLE
Unfortunately, nobody was really bitching about the size of a standard or hi-cap .45ACP frame that much.

If a little suburban matron like me has carried a 1911A1 for 30 years with no problems, what's to complain about?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Sometimes it's just the marketing geniuses trying to promote a product.

43 posted on 12/18/2009 7:58:58 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: tgusa

You could always reload . . . then you’d have exactly what you want and you can stock up on components for cheap.


44 posted on 12/18/2009 8:00:35 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: PureSolace

squib load?


45 posted on 12/18/2009 8:05:09 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

yup. The bullet was stuck right there in the barrel. Apparently there wasn’t enough powder or pressure or something to push it all the way out...

A cleaning rod was able to push it out... loaded a new round, and the gun worked fine.

It does happen... it’s rare. But it does happen.

(This happened over 10 years ago back when we treated guns as toys. I’m glad we’ve come to learn to treat and respect things differently now without loss of life and limb.)

Peace.


46 posted on 12/18/2009 8:07:37 AM PST by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: Stray Gator

“No doubt he was using Wolf ammo from russia. I used it once and had lots of trouble with 45 acp. 9mm no problem. Its cheap but not worth it.”

I use it quite often in my RI and have had no problems at all, probably 300 rounds of Wolf .45 acp without a hitch. What did you shoot it with?


47 posted on 12/18/2009 8:07:56 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: MrB

How does a squib cycle the slide and chamber the next round?


48 posted on 12/18/2009 8:08:44 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Good point - you should be looking at a jam there.
Others have said it’s possible, though -

let’s get others’ comments on it.


49 posted on 12/18/2009 8:11:10 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Sam_Damon

Gee....I’ve never seen a Glock “revolver”.


50 posted on 12/18/2009 8:12:13 AM PST by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: Tallguy

Google ‘Glock KaBoom’ and you’ll get all the OLD dope.

1. Problem fixed a number of years back on the .40 S&W, I do not know if it ever existed on the .45 ACP or .45 GAP.
2. Unjacketed or un-gilded rounds are a problem in Glocks only if you shoot lots of them. They tend to lead up a polygonal barrel a bit too fast. A fried runs several thousand jacketed re-loaded rounds thru his every year without cleaning. Not my cup of tea, but apparently it’s his.
3. Most, if not all, manufacturers tell you their warranty is void if you shoot re-loads or re-manufactured ammo. I re-load, but stay within SAAMI specs.

Those are the facts, not the internet rumours about Glocks. They work for me. YMMV.


51 posted on 12/18/2009 8:13:04 AM PST by Pecos
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To: Sam_Damon
Questions to the banglist: any ideas what might cause the Glock 21 to fly apart like this? AFAIK, the Marshall County (WV) SD has sent the pistol and ammo in question back to Glock for analysis.

Using "factory" reloads, I had a g26 blow up in my hand once. Best I can figure is that a slightly out of spec case with a bulge at the end prevented the slide from going fully into battery. I remember that the trigger was exceptionally hard to pull, but I was in a match and didn't stop. The resulting bang blew everything out the bottom of the gun, but besides a destroyed mag and a bent cruciform/triggerbar connector, the gun was fine. Glock fixed it for $250 and I still carry it.

A .45 has a lot more powder, so it's possible that this caused the grip to split. I don't think that an overcharged round could do this by itself.

52 posted on 12/18/2009 8:13:09 AM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: Tijeras_Slim
If it is well and truly stuck, the back pressure can be enough to cycle the slide.

But it sounds funny. I have had a squib with a .38 Super and it did cycle although it did not close completely.

I hated the original barrel on that thing - it was an abomination and caused all sorts of problems - it headspaced on just a portion of the rim and 3/4 of the rear of the shell was unsupported. Got accuracy problems, bulgy shells, failures to feed, and the aforementioned squib.

Got a Bar-Sto aftermarket barrel that headspaces on the case mouth like it's supposed to, and had no more problems.

53 posted on 12/18/2009 8:13:20 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Yeah, I reload my own rifle rounds but haven’t gotten around to getting the dies for pistol yet. Have primers become more available?


54 posted on 12/18/2009 8:13:33 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Sam_Damon

bfl

Thanks, everyone, for the benefits of your experience!


55 posted on 12/18/2009 8:14:59 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: tgusa
The primer supply has really eased up here.

For awhile, they were hard to find. We shoot Cowboy Action and also Sporting Clays, and everybody at the range was telling everybody else the latest source.

One of my husband's company's salesmen told us that a particular gun store in Middle Georgia had just gotten in a large shipment, and we were on our way through there that weekend and stocked up. I had promised myself that I wouldn't pay more than $30 a thousand, fortunately they were just under that.

56 posted on 12/18/2009 8:16:35 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Sam_Damon

never liked Glocks...too blocky for my tastes...but I never thought folks would watch music videos either


57 posted on 12/18/2009 8:16:57 AM PST by wardaddy (Say Merry Christmas or I'll kill you....I am weary of the onslaught on Christ in America)
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To: tgusa

Oh, btw, get the carbide dies and you won’t have to lube the cases!!!!! Big plus, especially with the quantity you tend to put through a pistol.


58 posted on 12/18/2009 8:17:21 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Sam_Damon
Glock 21

is .45 ACP

If the ammunition was solid lead bullets,
it will cause a problem with the polygonal rifling.


59 posted on 12/18/2009 8:19:36 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks for all! I usually shoot 60-75 rounds per session at the range. Takes almost as long to pick up my brass as it does to shoot.


60 posted on 12/18/2009 8:21:22 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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