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Judge Andrew Napolitano: My opening monologue on the Beck show today [health care is not a right]
facebook ^ | 12/18/2009 | Judge Andrew Napolitano

Posted on 12/19/2009 5:27:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson

In the continually harsh public discourse over the President’s proposals for federally-managed healthcare, the Big Government progressives in both the Democratic and the Republican parties have been trying to trick us. These folks, who really want the government to care for us from cradle to grave, have been promoting the idea that health care is a right. In promoting that false premise, they have succeeded in moving the debate from WHETHER the feds should micro-manage health care to HOW the feds should micro-manage health care. This is a false premise, and we should reject it. Health care is not a right; it is a good, like food, like shelter, and like clothing.

What is a right? A right is a gift from God that extends from our humanity. Thinkers from St. Thomas Aquinas, to Thomas Jefferson, to the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., to Pope John Paul II have all argued that our rights are a natural part of our humanity. We own our bodies, thus we own the gifts that emanate from our bodies. So, our right to life, our right to develop our personalities, our right to think as we wish, to say what we think, to publish what we say, our right to worship or not worship, our right to travel, to defend ourselves, to use our own property as we see fit, our right to due process—fairness—from the government, and our right to be left alone, are all rights that stem from our humanity. These are natural rights that we are born with. The government doesn’t give them to us and the government doesn’t pay for them and the government can’t take them away, unless a jury finds that we have violated someone else’s rights.

What is a good? A good is something we want or need. In a sense, it is the opposite of a right. We have our rights from birth, but we need our parents when we are children and we need ourselves as adults to purchase the goods we require for existence. So, food is a good, shelter is a good, clothing is a good, education is a good, a car is a good, legal representation is a good, working out at a gym is a good, and access to health care is a good. Does the government give us goods? Well, sometimes it takes money from some of us and gives that money to others. You can call that taxation or you can call it theft; but you cannot call it a right.

A right stems from our humanity. A good is something you buy or someone else buys for you.

Now, when you look at health care for what it is, when you look at the US Constitution, when you look at the history of human freedom, when you accept the American value of the primacy of the individual over the fleeting wishes of the government, it becomes apparent that those who claim that healthcare is a right simply want to extend a form of government welfare.

When I make this argument to my Big Government friends, they come back at me with…well, if people don’t have health insurance, they will just go to hospitals and we will end up paying for them anyway. Why should that be? We don’t let people steal food from a supermarket or an apartment from a landlord or clothing from a local shop. Why do we let them take healthcare from a hospital without paying for itl? Well, my Big Government friends contend, that’s charity.

They are wrong again. It is impossible to be charitable with someone else’s money. Charity comes from your own heart, not from the government spending your money. When we pay our taxes to the government and it gives that money away, that’s not charity, that’s welfare. When the government takes more from us than it needs to secure our freedoms, so it can have money to give away, that’s not charity, that’s theft. And when the government forces hospitals to provide free health care to those who can’t or won’t care for themselves, that’s not charity, that’s slavery. That’s why we now have constitutional chaos, because the government steals and enslaves, and we outlawed that a long time ago.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; donttreadonme; fascism; healthcare; liberalfascism; liberalism; napoleonitano; napolitano; obama; obamacare; rights; socialism; tyranny
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To: Liz
I'm surprised JUDGE NAPOLITANO lasred so long in NJ, since Judges are a 'political' position and have to elected - and endorsed by a a party

btw, I was just going to ping you to a Thread from Friday. It's mostly about IL and Mark Kirk (RINO). BUT - has a nice tidbit about our buddy Rahm being .... Gay!
What Chicago Dems are planning
scroll down to the beginning of the 3rd section, just below the asterisks.

this explains the Ballet Lessons

41 posted on 12/20/2009 6:08:27 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Condor51
For a campaign contribution, the DNC will let you watch 3-4 muscle-bound construction workers manhandle Rahm Emanuel.

"O-o-o-o-o, I can't wait.

42 posted on 12/20/2009 6:31:47 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
*** For a campaign contribution, the DNC will let you watch 3-4 muscle-bound construction workers manhandle Rahm Emanuel. ***

:-)
Back 'in the day', it wouldn't take 3 to 4 of the construction workers I worked with and knew to 'manhandle Rahm'. One alone could do it. They could pick him up with one hand and toss his scrawny (___) around like a Rag Doll.

43 posted on 12/20/2009 7:03:04 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Condor51
I'm surprised NJ Judge Napolitano lasted so long, since Judges are a 'political' position, are elected-and endorsed by a a party....

Mmmmmmm......do not think judges are elected in NJ.

Judge Nap sounds conservative b/c the sacrosanct body of law, that distinguishes the US from the rest of the world, is conservative. I do not think Judge Nap considers himself a conservative.

Watching Judge Judy adjudicate on TV, she sounds so conservative.......b/c the law is conservative. When she's interviewed off the bench, its surprising to hear her liberal views.

44 posted on 12/20/2009 7:07:30 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz; stephenjohnbanker; AuntB; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; Landru; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...
RE :”And when the government forces hospitals to provide free health care to those who can’t or won’t care for themselves, that’s not charity, that’s slavery.

So happy the Judge included this. It is amazing how voters of both parties support this unfunded mandate, but they oppose a personal mandate on themselves. But it is this mandate on hospitals that is democrats leading argument for personal mandates on us(which Obama campaigned against.) In Maryland they impose a tax on our hospital bills to go to a fund for the uninsured bills so the insured get screwed equally across the state.

Pelosi Gets The Jail Question!(Jail time or Pelosi-care, the right to choose)

45 posted on 12/20/2009 7:13:01 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: Liz
*** Mmmmmmm......do not think judges are elected in NJ. ***

Yes. The Judge said it one morning on Fox & Friends that NJ Judges are elected and he had to 'play politics'. Surprised me for sure being he's so conservative - or 'Libertarian' and NJ is ruled by moonbat libs. Either way he believes strongly in the Constitution and what it says - not what 'it should'.

(I don't know anything about Judge Judy)

46 posted on 12/20/2009 7:20:27 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent post. Thank you.


47 posted on 12/20/2009 8:03:07 AM PST by FreeKeys (Thou shalt not steal nor ask thy Congress critter to steal for thee.)
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To: wagglebee

That is by far the best description of a right that I have ever read or heard.


48 posted on 12/20/2009 8:30:08 AM PST by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT for a great post.


49 posted on 12/21/2009 10:16:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jim Robinson

bump


50 posted on 12/22/2009 7:10:21 PM PST by lowbridge ("We may be wrong, but the point is, we believe in what we're doing." - Joe Biden)
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To: Jim Robinson
These are natural rights that we are born with. The government doesn’t give them to us and the government doesn’t pay for them and the government can’t take them away, unless a jury finds that we have violated someone else’s rights.

Well, actually, and FWIW, on October 7th he was on Cavuto either arguing that rights are granted by the Constitution or letting Neil get away with it. I don't remember which. So, ticked off as I was, I immediately sat down and shot off this email to both of them:

Subject: WHY there's NO "right" to health care
From: [FreeKeys]
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:20:55 -0400
To: cavuto@foxnews.com, napolitano@foxnews.com
BCC: Painful_Truth@yahoogroups.com,
cfliberty@yahoogroups.com,

Gentlemen,

Please be clear.

1. RIGHTS come from God and/or from the requirements of man's nature, not the Constitution. The Constitution is just to designate the structure of the federal government, and as far as rights go, it is supposed to protect them, not define them. Rights are innate in every human. If they are "granted" by a Constitution or any other act of human beings they are nothing more than revocable privileges.

2. RIGHTS are expressions of LIBERTY, NOT of coercion. Thus you have rights to assemble, speak, write, worship, etc. Your right to swing your fist ends where another person's nose begins.

3. RIGHTS are NOT expressions of coercion -- If there WERE such a thing as one man's "right" to health care, THEREFORE SOMEONE ELSE'S LIBERTY MUST BE VIOLATED TO FORCE HIM TO PROVIDE IT. A so-called "right" to health care is a VIOLATION of someone else's liberty. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "RIGHT" TO VIOLATE RIGHTS.

PERIOD.

Sincerely yours,

[FreeKeys]

51 posted on 12/29/2009 6:10:34 AM PST by FreeKeys ("Democrats, in the main, have simply abandoned responsible priorities and civil debate."- DJDrummond)
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To: FreeKeys; PGalt; BradyLS; maine-iac7; RobFromGa; Publius; Misterioso; Wyatt's Torch; OwenKellogg; ..

Ping — consider this thread on RIGHTS for your reference library.


52 posted on 01/02/2010 7:13:27 PM PST by FreeKeys ( Judges who attack property rights are called "mainstream", but those who uphold them? "extremist.")
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To: FreeKeys
Freedom 
Keys
a collection of amusing, 
fascinating, insightful, or 
maybe even useful information

About Rights

"A 'right' is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man's freedom of action in a social context. There is only one fundamental right (all others are its consequences or corollaries): a man's right to his own life.

"The concept of individual rights is so new in human history that most men have not grasped it fully to this day. 

"It was the concept of individual rights that had given birth to a free society. It was with the destruction of individual rights that the destruction of freedom had to begin. 

"Any alleged 'right' of one man, which necessitates the violation of the rights of another, is not and cannot be a right.

"The term 'individual rights' is a redundancy: there is no other kind of rights and no one else to possess them." 

 -- Ayn Rand in "Man's Rights"


"Man's rights may not be left at the unilateral decision, the arbitrary choice, the irrationality, the whim of another man." -- Ayn Rand in "The Nature of Government"


"Any group or 'collective,' large or small, is only a number of individuals. A group can have no rights other than the rights of its individual members. In a free society, the 'rights' of any group are derived from the rights of its members through their voluntary, individual choice and contractual agreement, and are merely the application of these individual rights to a specific undertaking... A group, as such, has no rights. 

"Any doctrine of group activities that does not recognize individual rights is a doctrine of mob rule or legalized lynching... A nation that violates the rights of its own citizens cannot claim any rights whatsoever.  In the issue of rights, as in all moral issues, there can be no double standard." 

"Individual rights are not subject to a public vote; a majority has no right to vote away the rights of a minority; the political function of rights is precisely to protect minorities from oppression by majorities (and the smallest minority on earth is the individual)."

 -- Ayn Rand in "Collectivized 'Rights' "
"Man's Rights" begins on page 108, and "Collectivized 'Rights' " on page 118 of  THIS BOOK.



"The end does not justify the means.  No one's rights can be secured by the violation of the rights of others." -- Ayn Rand, "The Cashing-In: The Student Rebellion," Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal

"Rights are conditions of existence required by man's nature for his proper survival. If man is to live on earth, it is right for him to use his mind, it is right to act on his own free judgment, it is right to work for his values and to keep the product of his work.  If life on earth is his purpose, he has a right to live as a rational being: nature forbids him the irrational." 
                                                                                 -- Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged

"If every person has the right to defend even by force -- his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly. Thus the principle of collective right -- its reason for existing, its lawfulness -- is based on individual right. And the common force that protects this collective right cannot logically have any other purpose or any other mission than that for which it acts as a substitute. Thus, since an individual cannot lawfully use force against the person, liberty, or property of another individual, then the common force -- for the same reason -- cannot lawfully be used to destroy the person, liberty, or property of individuals or groups." 
                  -- Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

"Justice is a cardinal virtue that renders to another what rightfully belongs to him. It is the ideal of man, the rule of conduct given to mankind. By necessity of nature man has certain rights, or claims in justice, which are moral and lawful to possess or obtain. These rights are antecedent to and independent of the state, rights which the state must not violate. In fact, the state, or civil society, is instituted to preserve these rights to its subjects, to adjudge rights as between individuals—to render justice. The idea of right and justice is the general basis of the legal and governmental institutions of what is known as Western Civilization." -- Hans F. Sennholz
 

"Property is surely a right of mankind as real as liberty.  The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence." -- John Adams

"If we buy into the notion that somehow property rights are less important, or are in conflict with, human or civil rights, we give the socialists a freer hand to attack our property." -- Walter E. Williams

"A right is a claim to freedom of action (including that of securing privacy) which is the basis for the 'basic golden rule,' which is: 'Do nothing unto others you wouldn't want them to do unto you,' or,  as Alfred the Great put it, "What ye will that other men should not do to you, that do ye not to other men." (King Alfred's Book of Laws, circa 878 AD, according to Winston Churchill's History of the English Speaking Peoples)

"As Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said, 'The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins.' Rights must apply to everyone in the same sense at the same time. So rights must therefore be limited to claims of freedom to do anything which does not violate the freedoms of others. This requires recognizing, respecting and abiding by anyone else's wishes to be left alone whenever he wants, and his wishes to be free to do anything which doesn't violate others. This is why no one can claim a 'right' to interfere with your life in any way without your explicit, personally-given consent for a specified purpose. There can be no such thing as a 'right' for anyone (or any group) to mess with you whenever he wants (or whenever they want) since it obviously isn't applying to YOU in the same sense at the same time.

"The purpose of a Bill of Rights is to prevent anyone (including the majority-of-the-moment) from violating (or even voting away the recognition of) the rights of anyone else (including a minority of one). 

"We who use the English language are blessed with the words 'allowing' and 'permission' to refer to a freedom of action granted by another person or persons. This helps emphasize the clear distinction of a right as being a freedom of action a person claims for himself.

"We who use the English language are cursed with the word 'public' being used for both government property and its use, as in 'public building', and for private property and its use, as in 'open to the public.'  This can let intellectually sloppy and even intentionally dictatorial people try to get away with implying that private property must be treated as government property, nomatter the owners' wishes.

"Rights apply to living beings who rely on their conscious choice- making abilities to live, as they are an integral part of their codes of ethics -- meaning guides to decision-making -- in cases where other decision-makers are involved. On Earth, anyway, this obviously applies only to human beings and their interactions with each other. 

"Rights include the right for anyone to defend himself from any force or fraud initiated by others.

"Rights are negative in nature.  My right to free speech does not override your rights. I cannot force you to print my article in your newspaper.  The government is here to prevent anyone from interfering with my right of free speech.  Similarly, I have a right to apply for a job with your company.  I do not have a right to a job!  I cannot, and the government cannot, force you to hire me.  Same for medical care, food, clothing, etc.  I have a right to look for these things, but I cannot force you to provide them. We can't safeguard Peter's rights by stepping on Paul's." -- Marty Lewinter
 

"Rights do not come from governments nor their Constitutions.  They come from man's nature (and/or, if you prefer, his Creator).   Thus governments should be instituted among men to protect rights, not to grant them or to violate them. 

"Without consistent recognition and protection of individual rights, no civilization can last long. People's ability and willingness to simply live in close proximity to one another, let alone their ability and willingness to cooperate with one another, would be lost (Of course, the importance of rights is irrelevant to anyone who lives as a hermit in permanent isolation.). Anyone who uses even the tiniest product or benefit of civilization to advocate even the "tiniest" violation of human rights is guilty of perpetrating the fallacy of the stolen concept (in this case trying to use rights to deny rights), the inconsistency which destroys civilization, and all its benefits, in the long run (in effect using civilization to destroy civilization)." -- Rick Gaber


"From the fact that people are very different it follows that, if we treat them equally, the result must be inequality in their actual position, and that the only way to place them in an equal position would be to treat them differently.  Equality before the law and material equality are therefore not only different but are in conflict with each other; and we can achieve either one or the other, but not both at the same time." -- F. A. Hayek

"Equality, in a social sense, may be divided into that of condition, and that of rights. Equality of condition is incompatible with civilization, and is found only to exist in those communities that are but slightly removed from the savage state. In practice, it can only mean a common misery." -- James Fenimore Cooper

"Machan shines as he exposes embarrassing contradictions of egalitarianism. Example: 'If welfare and equality are to be primary aims of law, some people must necessarily possess a greater power of coercion in order to force redistribution of material goods. Political power alone should be equal among human beings; yet, striving for other kinds of equality absolutely requires political inequality.' " -- from Jim Powell's Review of  Private Rights and Public Illusions  by Tibor Machan.

"Rights are the implementation of freedom, yet rights decide only one issue.  They decide who gets to decide. ... [The initiation of ] force is immoral.  The use of force to achieve an objective, any objective, deprives the result of any morality at all.  It degrades and demeans both the objective and the result.” -- Tom and Linda Rawles

   "...the question becomes, are you going to have everyone play by the same rules, or are you going to try to rectify the shortcomings, errors and failures of the entire cosmos? Because those things are wholly incompatible. If you're going to have people play by the same rules, that can be enforced with a minimum amount of interference with people's freedom. But if you're going to try to make the entire cosmos right and just, somebody has got to have an awful lot of power to impose what they think is right on an awful lot of other people. What we've seen, particularly in the 20th century, is that putting that much power in anyone's hands is enormously dangerous." -- Thomas Sowell, in an interview in Salon11-10-99



"A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate." -- Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774

     "Under the law of nature, all men are born free, every one comes into the world with a right to his own person, which includes the liberty of moving and using it at his own will. This is what is called personal liberty, and is given him by the Author of nature, because necessary for his own sustenance." -- Thomas Jefferson: Legal Argument, 1770

     "What is true of every member of the society, individually, is true of them all collectively; since the rights of the whole can be no more than the sum of the rights of the individuals." -- Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1789

     "It is strangely absurd to suppose that a million of human beings, collected together, are not under the same moral laws which bind each of them separately." -- Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1816

    "The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime." --Thomas Jefferson to Pierre Samuel Dupont de Nemours, 1816

"Individual rights are the means of subordinating society to moral law." -- Ayn Rand

   "The function of rights is to keep society from riding roughshod over the individual. ... Individual rights are inalienable--which means, they were not  transferred to you by anyone or any government." -- Wayne Dunn

     "The authority of government ... can have no pure right over my person and my property but what I concede to it." -- Henry David Thoreau

   "It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." -- Thomas Jefferson to Francois D'Ivernois, 1795

     "Nothing... is unchangeable but the inherent and unalienable rights of man."  -- Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824

     "[Our] principles [are] founded on the immovable basis of equal right and reason."  -- Thomas Jefferson to James Sullivan, 1797

"Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual." -- Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1819 

"Those rights, then, which God and nature have established, and are therefore called natural rights, such as life and liberty, need not the aid of human laws to be more effectually invested in every man than they are; neither do they receive any additional strength when declared by the municipal laws to be inviolate. On the contrary, no human legislature has power to abridge or destroy them, unless the owner shall himself commit some act that amounts to a forfeiture."  -- Sir William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1765

"A right without an attendant responsibility is as unreal as a sheet of paper which has only one side." – Felix Morley 

"If your most basic right is the right to life, then it seems obvious to me that you have the right to defend your life. Guns are, in this century, the most effective means of doing so - so effective that every genocide has only been carried out against victims who were disarmed by their governments." -- William G. Hartwell

"As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights.  Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected.  No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions."  -- James Madison, National Gazzette, 1792
 

To Secure Our Rights

The Founders established a government to secure individual rights because they believed, with Locke, that justice requires communities to recognize our moral agency. We have a personal responsibility to run our own lives. Governments are established among men to procure, preserve, and protect a realm in which that moral agency may be freely exercised.

Enter the bad guys, stage left.

Those who sought to retain some elements of the political outlook that Locke’s theory had overthrown—namely, the view that people are subjects of the state (in fact, belong to the state)—found a way to expropriate and exploit the concept of human rights to advance their reactionary position, just as they expropriated and exploited the concept of liberalism. (Yes, Virginia, Karl Marx was a reactionary!)

Riding on purloined prestige, they perverted the concept of individual rights at its root so that it came to mean not liberty from others but service from others. Who needs the right to pursue happiness when one has the right to be made happy (even if the thus-extracted “happiness” should render the indentured providers of it miserable)?

This was a view of rights that wiped moral agency right out of existence. Positive rights are thus nothing more than mislabeled preferences, or values, that people want the government to satisfy or attain for them—by force

"All rights, including the right to free speech, are parts of a unified whole—they are derivations from the fundamental right to life, and obliteration of one of them is an eventual obliteration of them all." -- Carter Laren

"There is no such thing as Gay Rights, Women's Rights, or Minority Rights. The only rights that exist are Human Rights, those that apply to ALL people. Any 'rights' that apply only to certain groups are privileges that they are attempting to obtain by mislabeling them as rights." -- John Dobbins


"Observe that all legitimate rights have one thing in common: they are rights to action, not to rewards from other people. The American rights impose no obligations on other people, merely the negative obligation to leave you alone. The system guarantees you the chance to work for what you want — not to be given it without effort by somebody else.  The right to life, e.g., does not mean that your neighbors have to feed and clothe you; it means you have the right to earn your food and clothes yourself, if necessary by a hard struggle, and that no one can forcibly stop your struggle for these things or steal them from you if and when you have achieved them. In other words: you have the right to act, and to keep the results of your actions, the products you make, to keep them or to trade them with others, if you wish. But you have no right to the actions or products of others, except on terms to which they voluntarily agree."
 -- Leonard Peikoff, in "Health Care is Not a Right"

"The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom." -- Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas" 

 "They conferred, as against the Government, the right to be let alone--the most prehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men." -- Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis (Olmstead v. U.S.) 

"The right to be let alone is the underlying principle of the Constitution's Bill of Rights." -- Erwin N. Griswold

"The authority of government ... can have no pure right over my person and my property but what I concede to it." -- Henry David Thoreau

"A man's rights are not violated by a private individual's refusal to deal with him." -- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness

"One must be free from persecution for one’s political views, from being arbitrarily imprisoned, or from having one’s property seized. Such rights are crucial to human life. Men cannot learn, make new discoveries, forge long-range plans, or enjoy the rewards of their effort, if they live under the constant threat of being looted, imprisoned, or murdered. ... In a truly Orwellian climax, the [U.N.'s] Declaration brazenly upholds, as an example of man’s rights and freedoms, the individual’s duty to serve the state." -- Robert W. Tracinski in The U.N.'s Distortion of Rights

"Every group is predicated on the existence of the individual.  When the individual is sacrificed, in whole or in part, the group suffers. Protect the inalienable rights of the smallest minority -- the lone individual -- and all minorities as well as the majority will be protected." -- Zon 

"Rights are based on moral agency and the assumption of reciprocity.  Those who choose not to respect rights don’t get theirs respected in return ... it's classic tit for tat.  It’s like advocating tolerance for everyone but the intolerant, or violence only toward the violent.  Unconditional tolerance or nonviolence is not sustainable, and unconditional respect for rights (for those who disrespect them) is unilateral ethical disarmament. " --  Matt McIntosh

"Multiculturalism is social poison. Toleration of intolerance isn't sophistication. It's suicide."-- Jack Kelly 
 

"If some men are entitled by right to the products of the work of others, it means that those others are deprived of rights and condemned to slave labor." -- Ayn Rand

"Any alleged 'right' of one man, which necessitates the violation of the rights of another, is not and cannot be a right."- Ayn Rand


Taking Rights

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To live in society man requires rights.

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    "Human rights are an aspect of natural law, a consequence of the way the universe works, as solid and as real as photons or the concept of pi.  The idea of self- ownership is the equivalent of Pythagoras' theorem, of evolution by natural selection, of general relativity, and of quantum theory.  Before humankind discovered any of these, it suffered, to varying degrees, in misery and ignorance." -- L. Neil Smith
    "When men rise above the strictly perceptual level of consciousness, the first, or simplest, of the conceptual levels enables the concept of the Golden Rule.  Using his uniquely human capacity for concept-formation, he can see that people can best prosper long term instead of just for a day by engaging in specialization, trade and cooperation, and by fostering an atmosphere of good will among all by making sure everyone treats everyone else the same.  Thus the concept of rights appears -- all based on claims of self-ownership -- essentially as demands to be left alone until willing to be socialized with and/or traded with.   So the concept of the Golden Rule should be obvious, as a necessity -- to men who live as humans, that is, who use their brains, and the concepts of property and other rights (which must, of necessity, apply to everyone in the same sense at the same time) derive naturally from that.  Further, they recognize that their actions can help build, maintain or destroy civilization, and they thereby develop a conscience, a sense of personal responsibility.

    "At the same time, the concept of the criminal must appear, in order to designate those who initiate force or fraud against others, that is, violating others' rights, whether they can grasp the concept of rights or not.  Willfully or not, criminals remain at the level of the strictly perceptual mentality, as do animals, not thinking long term, only of what they can 'get away with' immediately.  As predators, they are dependent upon the unwilling support of productive others, so they can't take pride in their own productivity, self-sufficiency or personal integrity.  They certainly don't think anywhere near conceptually enough to recognize that their own actions help build, maintain or destroy civilization.   So for controlling those who operate on such a perceptual level and who therefore could become criminals at the first opportunity, preventive 'commandments' as well as a system of punishments for wrongdoing may be necessary, especially if no one has the time or the resources or even the ability to train everyone to think conceptually and recognize rights.

    "What of ancient Greece and the slave-holding American colonies?  I consider them to be 'bridge' societies of one level of development or another, growing out of primitivism, not yet fully civilized (Are we there yet?  No, kids, not by a long shot), but providing an environment for the further development of civilization .  Were the abolitionists right in considering the Confederacy's slave owners to be criminals, for example?  Yes, I think so." -- Rick Gaber



"A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on Earth... and what no just government should refuse." – Thomas Jefferson in a Letter to James Madison, Paris, Dec. 20, 1787

''It has been objected also against a bill of rights, that, by enumerating particular exceptions to the grant of power, it would disparage those rights which were not placed in that enumeration; and it might follow by implication, that those rights which were not singled out, were intended to be assigned into the hands of the General Government, and were consequently insecure. This is one of the most plausible
arguments I have ever heard against the admission of a bill of rights into this system; but, I conceive, that it may be guarded against. I have attempted it, as gentlemen may see by turning to the last clause of the fourth resolution [The Ninth Amendment].''
-- James Madison, June 8, 1789

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." -- Amendment IX, Constitution of the United States



A Poem

Lost Rights

Bill of Rights

Bogus Rights

Bill of NO Rights

Chodorov on Rights

IndividualRights.org

Some Crucial Definitions

Rights are moral principles

Individuals and Their Rights

A  "Right" to Health Care ?

The U.N.'s Distortion of Rights

The U.N. versus Individual Rights

The Destruction of the Bill of Rights

"The Planetary Bill of Rights Project"

Russell Madden Takes on the Rat Freaks

Stop calling things "civil rights" when they're not.

Individual Rights (& Personal Responsibility) Home Page



"Over himself, over his own mind and body, the individual is sovereign." -- J.S. Mill, On Liberty, 1859, "Introductory"

"...every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has any right to but himself." -- John Locke

"From all which it is evident, that though the things of Nature are given in common, man (by being master of himself, and proprietor of his own person, and the actions or labour of it) had still in himself the great foundation of property; and that which made up the great part of what he applied to the support or comfort of his being, when invention and arts had improved the conveniences of life, was perfectly his own, and did not belong in common to others." -- John Locke

"The highest manifestation of life consists in this: that a being governs its own actions.  A thing which is always subject to the direction of another is somewhat of a dead thing." -- Saint Thomas Aquinas (who re-introduced Aristotle to Western Civilization, eventually leading to the Renaissance)

"[Art.] 2. [Natural Rights.] All men have certain natural, essential, and inherent rights - among which are, the enjoying and defending life and liberty; acquiring, possessing, and protecting, property; and, in a word, of seeking and obtaining happiness. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by this state on account of race, creed, color, sex or national origin." -- New Hampshire State Constitution, 1784

"In a new draft article, 'St. George Tucker’s Second Amendment: Deconstructing 'The True Palladium of Liberty' [pdf],' Stephen P. Halbrook takes the reader step-by-step through Tucker's monumentally influential annotated American Blackstone, the most important legal treatise of the Early Republic. Analyzing Tucker's Blackstone, and other writings by Tucker, Halbrook shows that Tucker explicitly recognized the Second Amendment as an individual right, including the right to posses firearms for personal self-defense, unrelated to militia duty." -- David Kopel

Some More Quotations about Rights ... And ... More Articles on Rights

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"If welfare and equality are to be primary aims of law, some people must necessarily MORTAL PERIL: Our Inalienable Right To Health Care?
possess a greater power of coercion in order to force redistribution of material goods. Political power alone should be equal among human beings; yet, striving for other kinds of equality absolutely requires political inequality." -- Tibor Machan, Private Rights and PublicIllusions

"If health care were a 'right' then somebody has to use an awful lot of force to enslave doctors, and the more highly skilled and proficient the doctors, the more force would be needed to make them serve whoever sets themselves up as their masters." -- Rick Gaber

See how Americans were seduced into thinking someone else is supposed to pay for their health care HERE.
 

"HERE COMES THAT “RIGHT TO MEDICAL CARE” THING AGAIN

"Sunday morning, I think, and I was rolling through some of the talking head shows on the tube.  They were running a view poll.  The question was something like 'Do Americans have a right to health care?' .

"Now --- using logic --- we will dispense with this notion quite quickly and effectively.

"First of all, think about the right to free speech, religion, assembly, the press, etc.  Does anyone else have to sacrifice any portion of their life or any of their property in order for you to enjoy these rights?  No.  Nobody has to surrender one second of their life nor one small smidgen of their property in order for our government to protect your right to say what you want, pray how you want, gather with whom you want or read a free press. 

"Now – what about medical care.  Medical care consists of the personal services of medical personnel, and the benefits offered by medical equipment and drugs.  In order for you to receive medical care some individual somewhere has to either offer you a personal service such as an examination, or some equipment such as a wheelchair or a sling, or some medication.  The personal service is an expenditure of a portion of someone’s life.  The equipment and drugs constitute someone’s property.  The claim of  a 'right' to medical care is a claim of a 'right' to a portion of someone’s life or to someone’s property. 

"And that, my friends, should end THAT argument."  -- Neal Boortz, 6-24-2002


See: A "Right" to Health Care? HERE.

"That certain people can even consider enslaving doctors to any degree without meeting any objection whatsoever only underscores the incredible depths to which the moral depravity of many American institutions, public, academic and journalistic, have sunk.  Slavery is horrible enough, but putting our best, most highly-skilled, educated and thoughtful professionals at the mercy of the worst, most ethically-challenged depraved professionals such as politicians, bureaucrats and lawyers is worse than nauseating." -- Rick Gaber
See: "Putting doctors in jail for practicing medicine under arbitrary rules and paying old people to put doctors in jail is a moral outrage." HERE

SEE: "If you want to see the future of health care in the United States just look at the VA hospitals today.  ...  The Washington Times is reporting that many veterans are waiting up to six months for an appointment to see a doctor. ... That, my friends, is your medical future … and it is your medical future because you have accepted the idea that you have a 'right' to medical care, a right that politicians are all-too-willing to recognize." HERE

What letting politicians and bureaucrats interfere with health care has done so far is laid out graphically HERE.

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Besides, it puts you in the ridiculous position of condoning (or even saying!) absurd things like, "Well, it can't possibly be true that the earth revolves around the sun because that was postulated by a white male sexist. Like maybe Copernicus."

By the way, as Jane Chastain points out, have you noticed: the word "person" has the word "son" in it? And (as Bill Maher pointed out on Oct. 1, 1997) the word "woman" has the word "man" in it! Oh, horrors! What EVER shall we do NOW???

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53 posted on 01/02/2010 7:18:32 PM PST by FreeKeys ("The concept of individual rights is so new ... most men have not grasped it fully to this day."Rand)
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To: Jim Robinson
There can be no right to any health care that obligates another person to provide it. Rights come with responsibilities to be born by the right-holder. A right to free speech does not include a guaranty of an audience of people obligated to listen.

How can one have a right to health care without inappropriately obligating health care workers to provide this care?

54 posted on 01/02/2010 7:38:16 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: Jim Robinson

BUMP for excellence.


55 posted on 01/02/2010 7:40:25 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Jim Robinson

I want to see this man as AG of the U.S.A.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b3Q89FZoY0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPTbKMnxWGA


56 posted on 01/02/2010 9:41:01 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Jim Robinson
What is a right? A right is a gift from God that extends from our humanity. Thinkers from St. Thomas Aquinas, to Thomas Jefferson, to the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., to Pope John Paul II have all argued that our rights are a natural part of our humanity.

Question: is God part of nature? If our rights are God-given, why is it necessary to describe them as natural? And does not God create and control rights abrogators? What is God's definition of a right?

57 posted on 01/03/2010 12:21:23 AM PST by Misterioso (To deal with men by force is as impractical as to deal with nature by persuasion. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Jim Robinson

If healthcare is a right and is to be provided and paid for by the gubmint, then it stands to reason that the gubmint should buy me a gun a month to prevent infringements on my 2nd amendment right.


58 posted on 01/03/2010 6:13:37 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: FreeKeys

Thanks for the ping and your great post. Worth another BUMP-TO-THE-TRUTH for Judge Napolitano!


59 posted on 01/03/2010 4:40:57 PM PST by PGalt
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To: 2nd amendment mama; 4EverAmerican; 21twelve; 24Karet; abigail2; Accidental Ninja; acoulterfan; ...
(((PING))) to the SICK TWISTED FREAKS!
60 posted on 01/03/2010 6:35:44 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (MMM MMM MM!)
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