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(Oklahoma) Lawmakers File "Freedom of Healthcare Choice Act"
rightsidenews.com ^ | 12/22/09 | Mike Ritze

Posted on 12/22/2009 6:38:39 PM PST by TornadoAlley3

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To: Jacquerie

Well just the fact that so many are becoming aware of the Tyranny in Washington is really good news. The totalitarians are beginning to affect the lives of more citizens in direct and diabolical ways. People are actually thinking of rebellion, secession, constitutionality etc. I predict the election next year will bring carnage and havoc on the Democrats. They are finally being exposed as Communist control freaks and it is not playing in Peoria. People no longer dismiss Ron Paul and others as Kooks. It takes time to undo 50 years of creeping Communism.


102 posted on 12/23/2009 3:37:40 AM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: screaminsunshine

Yes, the people are waking up. Formerly apolitical friends of mine are starting to recognize what is happening.

Regarding this thread, no piece of parchment can preserve our rights. It was up to us to do so and we are very near failure.

Next year may be a blowout victory for conservatives. There may be time to save our once great republic.


103 posted on 12/23/2009 3:48:11 AM PST by Jacquerie (Support and defend our Beloved Constitution.)
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To: Jacquerie

I want to know what is constitutional about telling a private insurance company what % of premium is “allowed” to be spent on administrative cost. They will allow 15% of collected premium. 85% must be paid in claims. If claims are unknown how can a company figure this out? This is absurd and ridiculous.


104 posted on 12/23/2009 3:49:08 AM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Jacquerie

I think it will be complete utter destruction for the Crats.


105 posted on 12/23/2009 3:50:30 AM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: is_is

The only reason Texas doesn’t float away into the gulf is because Oklahoma sucks.

Maybe we can get our legistlature to follow suit.

I’m in OK today and tryin my durndest to drive south and get out.

I think I can see the Red from here.


106 posted on 12/23/2009 3:52:10 AM PST by Rightly Biased (If Clinton was the first black president then Obama is the first black Jesus.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

All 50 states need to do this. The government should be prohibited from using taxpayer dollars to do anything the taxpayers do NOT want.


107 posted on 12/23/2009 3:56:16 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: TornadoAlley3

I’m a born-and-raised Texan, but if Oklahoma continues to display this level of guts and courage in their politicians, I may soon be moving north.


108 posted on 12/23/2009 4:18:40 AM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: screaminsunshine

None of it is Constitutional.

The problem is that our form of self governance is suited only for a virtuous people. As Ben Franklin feared, we devolved over time into a debauched people suited only for despotic government.


109 posted on 12/23/2009 4:29:37 AM PST by Jacquerie (Support and defend our Beloved Constitution.)
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To: TornadoAlley3; MHGinTN

We could do this in Tennessee if we mounted a campaign to ask Ron Ramsey to do it


110 posted on 12/23/2009 4:32:08 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: Jacquerie

Maybe there is a chance to stage a comeback. I hope so. If the Communist/Democrats can be defeated and replaced.


111 posted on 12/23/2009 4:34:43 AM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: is_is

Just leave your Longhorns stuff in the River. But not in favor of Sooner stuff, we have too many of those losers already.


112 posted on 12/23/2009 5:29:09 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Huck
The Supremacy Clause says the Constitution is the law of the land, not that laws passed by Congress are the laws of the land. It means an amendment to the Constitution would have supremacy over any state law.

This is why almost every piece of legislate introduced into Congress opens with language stating is is implemented under the Interstate Commerce Clause, not the Supremacy Clause.

The ultimate Constitutionality is not does Congress have the authority to do something, but does that something constitute interstate commerce. Unfortunately, the SCOTUS has a history of deferring towards Congress.

The real Constitutionality test for ObamaCare will be if Congress has the right to demand an individual purchase something or otherwise have a tax levied.

There will likely be multiple 14th Amendment Equal Protection Clause challenges to ObamaCare.

113 posted on 12/23/2009 5:51:23 AM PST by magellan
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"This is an issue that could have serious consequences for all citizens and it is only right to allow voters a direct role in the outcome of this debate," Ritze said.



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114 posted on 12/23/2009 6:05:41 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Texas has sure been taking a back seat to Oklahoma lately.
We need to light a fire under our State Reps.


115 posted on 12/23/2009 6:09:09 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I predict we will see more of this. There are people in Missouri pushing for a ballot measure like this as well.

However, doesn’t federal law trump state constitutions? How can Oklahoma get away with doing this? There will be a lot of lawsuits.


116 posted on 12/23/2009 6:13:44 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: TornadoAlley3; All

Oklahoma

B U M P


117 posted on 12/23/2009 6:16:05 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: demshateGod

118 posted on 12/23/2009 6:26:29 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative; All
I do not know the outcome/answers..but it is something, a spark. has to get out of the OK legislature, then be voted on by the people, then we see what happens.
119 posted on 12/23/2009 6:33:43 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Huck

Rather a depressing reply in that I can’t poke holes in it.

You make a strong argument that I’m not qualified to challenge. I don’t see a reasonable objection to be made.

And so it goes, the federal government able to enslave us at will.


120 posted on 12/23/2009 6:40:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne (H.C. Bill, saves more in second decade, despite taxation w/o benefits for first 4 years. Suuurre...)
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