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Man Attempts to Set Off Explosives on Detroit-Bound Airplane
ABC NEWS ^ | Dec. 25, 2009 | By RICHARD ESPOSITO and SCOTT MAYEROWITZ

Posted on 12/25/2009 2:32:51 PM PST by Fred Nerks

Suspect Was Already on the Government's No-Fly List

Federal officials and police are interviewing a Nigerian man, who allegedly tried to "explode" a powdery substance aboard a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit, injuring himself and two other passengers, law enforcement officials said.

Unconfirmed reports say a firecracker was ignited on flight bound for Detroit.

The man said he was directed by al Qaeda to explode a small device in flight, over U.S. soil, ABC News has learned. Authorities have no corroboration of that information, and the credibility of the suspect's statements are being questioned, officials said.

The man was apparently already on the government's no-fly list of suspected terrorists, according to a senior intelligence official.

"The subject is claiming to have extremist affiliation and that the device was acquired in Yemen along with instructions as to when it should be used," a federal situational awareness bulletin stated.

Northwest Airlines flight 253 landed safely in Detroit at 11:53 a.m. The man, flew from Nigeria to Amsterdam and then Detroit, was taken into custody at the Detroit airport and was interviewed by authorities there. He was then taken to an area hospital to be treated for burns.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan; War on Terror
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The suspect told authorities that he had explosive powder taped to his leg and used a syringe of chemicals to mix with the powder that was to cause explosion. This is of concert because it is a method of mixing that is consistent with terror techniques.
1 posted on 12/25/2009 2:32:52 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

If my shampoo bottle is too big, the TSA will read me the riot act. But explosives taped to the leg? Syringe full of chemicals? I guess you just get waved on to the plane ...


2 posted on 12/25/2009 2:34:25 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: Fred Nerks

It’s a good thing we maintain those no-fly lists. They work really well, don’t they?


3 posted on 12/25/2009 2:35:25 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Fred Nerks

So I’m getting that this was clearly an attempted terrorist attack...but the government, for whatever (PC) reason is too afraid to classify it as that.


4 posted on 12/25/2009 2:37:51 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: Fred Nerks

We need to wait until all the evidence is in and not make a snap judgment......


5 posted on 12/25/2009 2:41:26 PM PST by mikrofon (Snap, crackle, pop)
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To: SMCC1
So I’m getting that this was clearly an attempted terrorist attack...but the government, for whatever (PC) reason is too afraid to classify it as that.

This current government would classify it is a misdemeanor.

6 posted on 12/25/2009 2:41:32 PM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: Fred Nerks

You know it’s only a matter of time before one of those uncivilized mutants does some serious damage again.


7 posted on 12/25/2009 2:41:40 PM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! The real reason the left wants to disarm us is becoming clearer.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Don’t tell me. This guy was Amish. Maybe a Mennonite or a Quaker.


8 posted on 12/25/2009 2:43:30 PM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Fred Nerks
>>>that the device was acquired in Yemen...<<<

—Yemen. Next pisshole on the list. They'll always be a next one.

9 posted on 12/25/2009 2:44:16 PM PST by Shqipo (Palin/Thompson 2012)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Only if you are a mooslim on the no-fly list, you don’t get checked.


10 posted on 12/25/2009 2:45:25 PM PST by ducdriver (judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: Fred Nerks

The syringe news is an update. The reporter is writing quickly, see concert for concern. Could be wrong info.


11 posted on 12/25/2009 2:46:08 PM PST by Shermy
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To: SMCC1

If the TSA had stopped him, the Kenyan usurper would have said something like “Let me be clear — the TSA acted stupidly.”


12 posted on 12/25/2009 2:46:47 PM PST by ducdriver (judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: Fred Nerks; All

Excuse me .. I know this is a silly question .. but if the guy is on the “no fly list” .. THEN WHAT THE HELL HE IS DOING ON A FLIGHT.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET FIRED! NOW!!!

If I was a passenger on that plane .. I WOULD BE HIRING A LAWYER AND I WOULD OWN THAT AIRLINE!!!!

This idoicy has got to stop! They’re more afraid of offending somebody than they are of protecting the other passengers.


13 posted on 12/25/2009 2:50:13 PM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“If my shampoo bottle is too big, the TSA will read me the riot act. But explosives taped to the leg? Syringe full of chemicals? I guess you just get waved on to the plane ...”

ONLY if you are on the no-fly list.


14 posted on 12/25/2009 2:52:15 PM PST by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: samtheman

Remember who is in charge now — Homeland Security?


15 posted on 12/25/2009 2:53:17 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: CyberAnt

Fireworks set off aboard airliner
CNN ^ | 12/25/09 | CNN

Posted on 12/25/2009 11:59:19 AM PST by Cyberrat

A passenger on a Northwest Airlines flight from Amsterdam, Netherlands, to Detroit, Michigan, caused a brief disturbance Friday at the end of the trip by igniting firecrackers, a Delta Air Lines spokeswoman said...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2415055/posts

NO NEED TO WORRY! IT WAS ONLY FIRECRACKERS!


16 posted on 12/25/2009 2:54:27 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: samtheman

I’m not sure Holland recognizes our no fly list anyway.


17 posted on 12/25/2009 2:54:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Fred Nerks
• Sadeq Naji Ahmed, whom the Transportation Security Administration
hired as an airport screener after the Air Force kicked him out for making
statements supporting Osama bin Laden and praising the 9/11 attacks.
Ahmed worked almost a year before TSA found he previously had his security clearance revoked.


18 posted on 12/25/2009 2:58:50 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: 21twelve

And a muslim and from the ME

barbra ann


19 posted on 12/25/2009 2:59:23 PM PST by barb-tex (The electric power just appears in your garage, in unlimited quality.)
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To: cripplecreek

The Netherlands can force a US carrier to ticket a known terrorist?


20 posted on 12/25/2009 3:00:53 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Fred Nerks
tried to "explode" a powdery substance

This is BS. Most substances are not "explosive" unless they are ignited in some confined space. If someone saw the powder then it was not confined.

ML/NJ

21 posted on 12/25/2009 3:06:33 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Fred Nerks
UPDATE:

AP source: Passenger tried to blow up airliner

22 posted on 12/25/2009 3:07:44 PM PST by JustPiper (You think about revolution...Well...)
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To: samtheman

The carrier is under the authority of the nation its in.


23 posted on 12/25/2009 3:07:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

Then maybe it shouldn’t fly to that nation anymore.


24 posted on 12/25/2009 3:11:39 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Diogenesis
They are everywhere:

DIY terror book author gets 9yrs Updated Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:33pm AEST

A Sydney man who produced a do-it-yourself terrorism book has been sentenced to at least nine years in jail.

Last year a Supreme Court jury found 39-year-old Belal Khazaal guilty of producing a book, knowing that it was connected with assisting a terrorist attack.

The court heard that he compiled historical and religious writings about how to shoot down planes, strike motorcades and assassinate high-ranking government officials in Australia, the United States and other countries.

The book was called 'Provisions on the Laws of Jihad,' it was written in Arabic and was posted on the internet.

Khazaal's lawyer argued that he did not check all the material he compiled from other writers.

But the judge said it 'beggars belief' that a person of average intelligence would not register the nature of the material.

Today in the Supreme Court, Khazaal was sentenced to 12 years in jail with a non parole period of nine years.

After he was sentenced, his supporters shouted abuse at the Bar table in Arabic.

Outside court, they said he has been unfairly treated because he is a Muslim.

Khazaal's lawyer says there will be an appeal.

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KHAZAAL WORKED FOR QANTAS FOR TEN YEARS!

25 posted on 12/25/2009 3:15:09 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: ClearCase_guy
If my shampoo bottle is too big, the TSA will read me the riot act. But explosives taped to the leg? Syringe full of chemicals? I guess you just get waved on to the plane ..

As long as they don't profile anyone.....

26 posted on 12/25/2009 3:15:32 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: JustPiper
FROM YOUR LINK:

It was not immediately clear why the passenger wanted to attack the flight that was arriving from Amsterdam.

27 posted on 12/25/2009 3:17:29 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

I already thought kicking his butt was fair punishment when they thought it was just fireworks. If he really was trying to blow up the plane...hand him over to the passengers, boys.


28 posted on 12/25/2009 3:17:39 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: samtheman

It’s a good thing we maintain those no-fly lists. They work really well, don’t they?


This is evidence of how they will not be able to impose tyranny. They fail at mere peacetime competence.


29 posted on 12/25/2009 3:20:34 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: ScottinVA

This current government would classify it is a misdemeanor.


You refer to the battery and arrest of the African?

I dunno. Could be a felony hate crime.


30 posted on 12/25/2009 3:21:56 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: Psalm 144

In a way, tyranny is easier than peacetime competence. Peacetime competence requires, well, competence. Tyranny just requires brute force.


31 posted on 12/25/2009 3:24:22 PM PST by samtheman
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To: CyberAnt
There are 278 passengers who are lucky to be alive! (Or 277, the perp is in hospital with burns.)

An official wearing anti-explosive protection boards a plane where a man allegedly attempted to set off explosives on a Northwest Airlines plane. (ABC News)

32 posted on 12/25/2009 3:24:56 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks
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33 posted on 12/25/2009 3:26:40 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: RichInOC

Now, now.

If our SEALS can be punished for giving a terrorist a fat lip, mere civilians should be subject to the death penalty for beating up a passenger playing with firecrackers./sarc


34 posted on 12/25/2009 3:28:45 PM PST by Badray
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To: samtheman

Well, this is true. So much easier to break than build, or to steal than to work.


35 posted on 12/25/2009 3:31:41 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The man was apparently already on the government's no-fly list of suspected terrorists, according to a senior intelligence official.

So, when he, a suspected terrorist, says that Al Quada directed him to detonate an explosive concoction while traversing fly-over country, and the mixture DOES ignite, we should assume that he was lying about the Islamic connection? Maybe he was merely stressed out, like Nadal Malik Hasan, and had to "vent' his frustration at being surrounded by infidels.

Nothing to see here. Move along. There is only the ROP here, and their intentions are noble.

36 posted on 12/25/2009 3:32:32 PM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Fred Nerks

Man Attempts to Set Off Explosives on Detroit-Bound Airplane (”directed by Al Qaeda”)
ABC News ^ | 12/15/09 | RICHARD ESPOSITO, PIERRE THOMAS and SCOTT MAYEROWITZ

Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:14:18 AM by jimbo123

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2415071/posts


37 posted on 12/25/2009 3:34:16 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: cripplecreek
The carrier is under the authority of the nation its in.
The more I think of this, the more angry I get.

Let's suppose, just for a moment, that we had an actual pro-American as President of the United States and that he issued an Executive Order through the FAA that any carrier caught knowingly bringing in no-fly passengers to the United States lose their landing rights in US International Airports for one year for the first offence, 5 years for the 2nd offence and 10 years for the 3rd offence.

Let's see what happens then.

Of course, we have a pro-Terrorist President of the United States who will never issue such an order, but I'm just saying... on a certain level the Netherlands can't dictate to us who we accept on planes bound for our airports... not if we don't let them.

38 posted on 12/25/2009 3:39:48 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Psalm 144
This is evidence of how they will not be able to impose tyranny. They fail at mere peacetime competence.

This is already tyranny. Terrorists and known Jihadis are given a pass, while the patriotic soldier boarding a plane is stripped of his Leatherman's (wouldn't want to endanger any Jihadis that get the SJS urge to wreak havoc on the sheep.)..

39 posted on 12/25/2009 3:40:10 PM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: ml/nj
Most substances are not "explosive" unless they are ignited in some confined space. If someone saw the powder then it was not confined.
We're dealing with muzzies here, not rational human beings. Maybe some Imam TOLD him the powder would magically explode.
40 posted on 12/25/2009 3:41:56 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Fred Nerks
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41 posted on 12/25/2009 3:47:24 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: samtheman

I believe a few planes were turned back or diverted for this sort of thing under Bush. I do agree that an ultimatum should be given to the nations that don’t recognize our no fly list.

On the other hand, the no fly list has shown itself to be pretty flawed on too many occasions.


42 posted on 12/25/2009 3:51:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks for posting. BTTT!


43 posted on 12/25/2009 4:05:51 PM PST by PGalt
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To: samtheman
We're dealing with muzzies here,

My guess is that we're dealing with know-nothing reporters. Suggesting that someone trying to ignite some exposed powder was lighting an explosive is enough to call for close examination of the entire story.

ML/NJ

44 posted on 12/25/2009 4:09:39 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: cripplecreek

You’re probably right, but it still burns me up thinking of us being dictated to by these punk-a** nations. But then I remind myself: President Barak Obama. And I realize, this is all small stuff.


45 posted on 12/25/2009 4:11:10 PM PST by samtheman
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To: ml/nj

Well, I’m certainly not going to argue with you that reporters, on the whole, are know-nothing.


46 posted on 12/25/2009 4:12:04 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Fred Nerks
Let us observe and state the obvious. Muslims are terrorists. That cute little Muzzy family down the block is only waiting either for the signal to attack, or the phone call which will tell them that if they fail to attack they will be killed.

Time to kick each and every Muslim out of this country. Religious freedom you say!!!???? Religious freedom is for peaceful assembly and people who obey the Ten Commandments, not for blood thirsty animals from the 12th century.

Stop this ROP sh*t!

47 posted on 12/25/2009 4:29:39 PM PST by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: ml/nj

If you read the article carefully, I think you will find that the words ‘powdery substance’ and ‘device’ are used.

Can you use a little imagination and combine this information to come up with ‘powdery substance contained in a device’?

You are making it sound as if the perp was trying to set off a handful of loose powder. Why?


48 posted on 12/25/2009 4:31:48 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks
You are making it sound as if the perp was trying to set off a handful of loose powder. Why?

Because that's how the article reads. No one talks about igniting gunpowder when someone fires a bullet.

ML/NJ

49 posted on 12/25/2009 4:36:49 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Fred Nerks
The fat spunkmonkey probably just wanted to martyr himself thinking it's the closest he's ever going to get to a woman...no 72 virgins for you, loser.

However I do hear that Helen Thomas is available...

50 posted on 12/25/2009 4:59:36 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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