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[Atheist Biologist] Dawkins: Evangelist an 'idiot' on evolution
CNN ^ | November 25, 2009 | Peter Wilkinson

Posted on 12/25/2009 11:36:48 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode

referring to U.S.-based evangelist Ray Comfort, who argues that the universe and life is the result of an intelligent creator, Dawkins said: "There is no refutation of Darwinian evolution in existence. If a refutation ever were to come about, it would come from a scientist, and not an idiot.

"You can't prove there's no God, no fairies, no leprechauns, or that Thor or Apollo don't exist. There's got to be a positive reason to think that fairies exist. Until somebody does, we can say technically we are agnostic about fairies. We can't disprove them, but we think it's a bit of a waste of time trying. And the same goes for God."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: atheists; darwin; dawkins; evolution
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To: boycott
Turns out the Java man's skullcap was clearly not that of an ape. There's a quite lengthy history regarding development of ideas about this particular finding ~ which occurred in the late 1800s when hardly anyone knew anything about early hominids.

I noticed Obama is also taken to this "a century ago" cr*p as if it's all meaningful. Look, the health care system proposed "a century ago" was little more than band aid stations in factories. We created a far more sophisticated and useful health care system separate and apart from that sort of thing.

It's the same here. People figure out better stuff. They've learned how to do dating with more precision, plus, more skeletal materials have been dug up.

Don't get caught lingering in the 19th century when it comes to medicine or paleontology. Don't be just another ignorant Obamista!

21 posted on 12/26/2009 3:46:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: B-Chan

And, He is coming back soon!


22 posted on 12/26/2009 5:01:13 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Mr. Dawkins prefers to believe that life began out of nothing...just magically appeared. There was no primordial soup before life, there was only inorganic matter, so don’t bother me with that crap. Mr. Dawkins simply does not understand the concept of billions of people knowing God for many millennium. He does not understand that the only purely exact science is conceptual, it is in our minds. From where do our thoughts come from? Gee, maybe they are simply electrical/chemical responses to stimuli...really Dawkins, get a life and get some intelligence that means something.


23 posted on 12/26/2009 5:18:34 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
You can't prove there's no God, no fairies, no leprechauns, or that Thor or Apollo don't exist ...

More proof that atheism itself is a faith. If these things cannot be proven, then how can anyone claim with "scientific certainty" that they don't exist?

24 posted on 12/26/2009 5:21:02 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: john in springfield

“Unfortunately, a lot of the people arguing against the atheist position, while not idiots, are waaaaay out of their league.”

That is true, but we can ramp down to the atheist level for short time periods to explain how absolutely idiotic their positions are...life did not begin from nothing...there was no primordial “soup”...there was no soup at all until after there was life...etc, etc, etc,...


25 posted on 12/26/2009 5:26:03 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: boycott
... it is clear that the Bible was right and science was WRONG.

Don't forget about the rules of cleanliness and personal hygiene handed down in the Bible. The use of handwashing and the drinking of running water were proposed in the Bible and of course, later confirmed to be good ways of staying healthy by science thousands of years after the Bible was written.

26 posted on 12/26/2009 5:32:19 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

There’s no proof of evolution, either.


27 posted on 12/26/2009 5:35:00 AM PST by RoadTest (Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3)
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To: boycott

Dawkins is indeed a very bitter and angry person, like most outspoken atheists. Not content to let us “ignorant superstitious peasants” worship as we please, Dawkins rails, curses, and condemns.

Hmmm...I wonder if there is anything in Dawkins’ writings or speeches that would cause the slightest inconvenience to Beelzebub and his minions?

I think not, JMHO.


28 posted on 12/26/2009 5:43:42 AM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Refute a ‘...theory????” It’s NOT a law.


29 posted on 12/26/2009 5:55:27 AM PST by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: Soothesayer9
I firmly believe that even if Christ descended upon Earth and performed miracles in the presence of all of these atheists..irrefutable evidence that Jesus Christ IS the Son of God, they still wouldn't believe him. To do so would mean that they would need to admit they were wrong all along. And they will take that mistake to the gates of Hell and beyond. As C.S. Lewis once said, the gates of Gell are locked from the INSIDE.

They can listen to Moses, so to speak.

If they don't choose to believe Scripture, then they wouldn't be convinced is someone rose from the dead.

For all the evos who claim that someone regrowing limbs would convince them, it wouldn't. Their lack of belief isn't do to not enough *evidence*, but their own choice. The *lack of evidence* is just an excuse.

What's really ironic, however, is that they then go on to disparage anyone who uses evidence to support their beliefs saying that true faith doesn't rest on evidence because if you have evidence, you don't have real faith or that your faith is *weak*, because in their book faith is believing in something there's no evidence for.

So where they get off claiming that they would have faith if there were better evidence is beyond me.

30 posted on 12/26/2009 6:36:24 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: All
There's got to be a positive reason to think that fairies exist.

I rest my case.

31 posted on 12/26/2009 11:24:34 AM PST by KarinG1 (Merry Christmas.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Although an "evolutionist," I'm no supporter of Dawkins. He's philosophically wrong (and invidious) in inferring and claiming that science supports atheism.

However, much to my surprise, you appear to be a supporter of Dawkins, seeing as how you are here highlighting a claim where Dawkins is indubitably correct, and even restrained in his language. Ray "Banana Man" Comfort certainly is an idiot.

(Heck. I knew bananas were domesticated, and what wild bananas looked like, back when I was nine years old, just from watching nature films and kids' science books and such. And here are two adults, having specifically chosen the subject as a lecture topic to make a point, and they haven't a friggin' clue. THAT takes good, old fashioned, drooling at the mouth, idiocy all right.)

32 posted on 12/26/2009 12:50:24 PM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: wendy1946; medved; tomzz; jeddavis; Admin Moderator
Whether or not you post the little image, Ted, you're still bats.

How many times is it you've been banned now?

33 posted on 12/26/2009 5:45:34 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Where is Mr. Dawkins ‘positive’ evidence that one type of animal can ‘Evolve’ into another?

Did Sandy Bergler sneak that out of the National Archives in his pants also?

However, its good to see that Mr. Dawkins admits that it is a waste of time to try to disprove God.


34 posted on 12/26/2009 6:18:13 PM PST by Fichori ('Wee-Weed Up' pitchfork wielding neolithic caveman villager with lit torch. Any questions?)
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To: Gumlegs

You don’t seem to be getting anywhere with that little schtick, do you?


35 posted on 12/26/2009 6:35:46 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: Wpin
Ah, good. I'm glad to be answered by a theist who is obviously smarter than all of the atheists.

While I have you here, I would like to have your response to the various points raised in Martin's Atheism: A Philosophical Justification.

What? You've never read it? Hmmm.

36 posted on 12/26/2009 7:22:39 PM PST by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: Wpin
Actually, answer me this:

Have you ever read anything by Michael Martin?

In fact, have you ever heard of Michael Martin?

37 posted on 12/26/2009 7:24:18 PM PST by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Dawkins is an idiot on religion. So at worst, they’re even.


38 posted on 12/26/2009 7:30:26 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: familyop

Maybe those space aliens whom Dawkins believes may have seeded earth’s life forms may have been fairies! A silly, bitter man, Dawkins. Bob


39 posted on 12/26/2009 7:35:39 PM PST by alstewartfan (I)
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To: john in springfield

Okay smart guy, answer my questions...exactly how did life begin from nothing? Before there was any organic, any life, how did life begin and where did it come from. Where do your thoughts come from?


40 posted on 12/26/2009 8:06:25 PM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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