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New Restrictions Quickly Added for Air Passengers
New York Times ^ | December 27, 2009 | Micheline Maynard and Liz Robbins

Posted on 12/27/2009 7:15:46 AM PST by reaganaut1

In the wake of the terrorism attempt Friday on a Northwest Airlines flight, federal officials on Saturday imposed new restrictions on travelers that could lengthen lines at airports and limit the ability of international passengers to move about an airplane.

The government was vague about the steps it was taking, saying that it wanted the security experience to be “unpredictable” and that passengers would not find the same measures at every airport — a prospect that may upset airlines and travelers alike.

But several airlines released detailed information about the restrictions, saying that passengers on international flights coming to the United States will apparently have to remain in their seats for the last hour of a flight without any personal items on their laps. It was not clear how often the rule would affect domestic flights.

Overseas passengers will be restricted to only one carry-on item, and domestic passengers will probably face longer security lines. That was already the case in some airports Saturday, in the United States and overseas.

The restrictions will again change the routine of air travel, which has undergone an upheaval since the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington in September 2001 and three later attempts at air terrorism.

Soon after the attempt on Friday, travelers at airports around the world began experiencing heightened screening in security lines. On one flight, from Newark Liberty International Airport to Little Rock, Ark., flight attendants kept cabin lights on for the entire trip instead of dimming them for takeoff and landing.

The limits, which brought to mind some of the most stringent policies after the 2001 attacks, come at a difficult time for the airline industry.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
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To: toldyou

I usually knew when the flight out was due and checked to see if there was space A. I’d usually read a book. What do you do on standby?


81 posted on 12/27/2009 11:08:06 AM PST by tillacum
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To: freedumb2003
I fly all the time and if I wanted to do mischief, it would be super easy to defeat the security precautions in place

Wear a Koran around your neck?

82 posted on 12/27/2009 11:13:40 AM PST by MaxMax (Obamao can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: KTM rider

Okay, I’ll bite. Why is it stupid and/or inaccurate?


83 posted on 12/27/2009 11:18:49 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: tillacum

“What do you do on standby?”

I meant with your luggage. We carry ours on.


84 posted on 12/27/2009 11:56:47 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: reaganaut1

I sure do wish they’d catch somebody trying to blow up an airplane with a bra bomb, because then TSA would implement new security rules so that after making everyone take off their shoes at the screening station, the TSA would make all of the women take off ......


85 posted on 12/27/2009 12:02:38 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: toldyou

**union news updates in emails**

Get those from my unions too..
I am involved in a chat on another site about UNION STUPIDITY. Chatting about Residual Checks for 2 cents, 4 cents, 17 cents... OY, VEY!!!


86 posted on 12/27/2009 12:50:06 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: gwilhelm56

“I am involved in a chat on another site about UNION STUPIDITY.”

Googled a few...interesting.


87 posted on 12/27/2009 1:03:53 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: freedumb2003

Dead easy. . .especially going through the x-ray machine. . .shoes off. . .I had foot powder on and left footprints and they didn’t even comment or stop me. . .could have been anthrax for all they knew. As it was, I was leaving foot fungus in the portal.

TSA is garbage.


88 posted on 12/27/2009 1:09:49 PM PST by Hulka
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To: reaganaut1
Having been treated to the extra special search service once because I set off a metal detector in Kansas City (where they are set "very sensitive") with something (could have been under-items, my Scapular or my Crucifix. Maybe all three, who knows) while there for a commuter flight, I'm now rather appalled that I probably won't be able to read a book, let alone get up to use the rest room or avoid blood clots the next time I go to Europe. Go after the people who seriously look like trouble, not 4'11" women in long skirts.

This is getting ridiculous. At this point, I'd rather check all luggage and chance not having a change of clothes and other personal items on the other end.

89 posted on 12/27/2009 1:19:02 PM PST by Desdemona (These are the times that try men's souls. - Remember Christmas 1776)
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To: o_zarkman44
"Never fail to take advantage of a crisis". -Rahm Emanuel

Each act of terrorism results in the willing abandonment of individual liberty by American people. I'd be willing to project that each act of terrorism which takes place on our shores or airspace results in ten thousand gubmint jobs and $100,000,000 in new spending.

Now if the people on board that airliner were allowed to slowly beat the guy to death and dump him on the tarmac in front of video cameras, that would do much more to secure our safety than anything else the gubmint could do.

90 posted on 12/27/2009 1:20:52 PM PST by blackdog
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To: tillacum

Not.

Business traveler here. . . no checked bag, small carry-on (that is why gawd made hotel laundry). Land and get the heck out of the airport instead of standing around in some cattle pen waiting for luggage that MAY show up.

No checked bags, no lost luggage, no surly line of angry passengers and even more surly and angry lost luggage personnel.

It is the tourist passenger that abuses carry on as they trundle aboard over-packed, over-loaded and looking every bit the bag-lady they are.

I HAD a trip to CA in a few weeks.

Cancelled due to the silliness of these “new” rules, and this nonsense about screening practices to be unpredictable, right, like I believe that. . .they just can’t get it right and they will now be out of control profiling old ladies, the Amish but never a muslime.


91 posted on 12/27/2009 1:22:39 PM PST by Hulka
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To: livius

“and not even being permitted to go the restroom.”

That could get real ugly (and smelly) real fast.


92 posted on 12/27/2009 1:27:48 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Never argue with a man whose job depends on not being convinced. (Mencken))
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To: catnipman
What is with the american obsession with bras? WTF happened to the 70's? Boobs in this era get lifted, molded, padded, foam encased, squished into rigid boob shelves(the uni-boob), crushed flat so they are motionless and pressed out over the entire upper torso like rolling out dough and duct taping it in place, to the point of craziness.

American breasts have no personality or swagger these days. They are like clone-pods spawned by the queen @ Victoria's Secret.

Off Topic Penalty noted.

93 posted on 12/27/2009 1:32:50 PM PST by blackdog
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To: varina davis

“The first time someone has a major bathroom “accident” by the new rules look for a major lawsuit.”

...or a critical UTI as a result of not being able to use “the facilities”.


94 posted on 12/27/2009 1:35:36 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Never argue with a man whose job depends on not being convinced. (Mencken))
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To: gwilhelm56

yea, but a bullet through a window will decompress the cabin in a hurry. It’d be pretty funny watching you get sucked out through a 12 inch hole. Fire away moron.

;)


95 posted on 12/27/2009 1:43:41 PM PST by TheUndead (...it's all downhill from here.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
My idea is for airlines to pump anesthesia into the main cabin and use platic seats. Once airborn, keep the cabin atmosphere at a hypoxia threshold, say around 22,000 feet. Just enough oxygen to keep you alive, but not enough for ambulatory movement. First class can get air, but they get to choose some good drug combinations like thorazine and haladol. Versed and valium. Both with booze chasers.

Just pressure wash the interior down once a week.

96 posted on 12/27/2009 1:45:32 PM PST by blackdog
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To: blackdog
crushed flat so they are motionless and pressed out over the entire upper torso like rolling out dough and duct taping it in place...

Woo! You get the vivid prose prize for the day! Must be an important topic to you...LOL!

97 posted on 12/27/2009 2:06:21 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

We all need a lighter side cause. That’s mine!


98 posted on 12/27/2009 2:15:13 PM PST by blackdog
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To: TheUndead

WRONG, ZOMBIE!!!

those windows are not glass they do not shatter...nice round hole in both... same as previous POST...

I’d Rather take my chances that way ...than WHINING about some Ragheaded MUZZIE.

FIRE!!! ..and Get the EFF OUT of my way!


99 posted on 12/27/2009 2:18:21 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: Hulka

>>As it was, I was leaving foot fungus in the portal.<<

There are Douglas Adams-style opportunities there....


100 posted on 12/27/2009 4:22:52 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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