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Mormon Media Observer: Top 10 LDS newsmakers of 2009
Mormon Times ^ | Dec. 30, 2009 | Joel Campbell

Posted on 12/30/2009 1:32:39 PM PST by Colofornian

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To: LeGrande
This is actually the more interesting part and confirmed by Einstein, light, life and matter are one and the same.

I'm sure you have a scientific article, reference or link on this.

181 posted on 01/09/2010 8:07:23 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: reaganaut; ejonesie22

Sometimes it’s a slow night on FR and boredom kicks in....


182 posted on 01/09/2010 8:10:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
You cannot disprove God. It’s not possible. And you haven’t falsified anything, either.

I have certainly falsified the Christian concept of God : )

Tell me, why are you so interested in disproving God and trying to dissuade people from believing in Him?

Have you noticed that with rare exceptions (regarding religion anyway) you only see me on Anti-Mormon threads? I simply enjoy having fun at the expense of anti Mormon Cabal members like yourself : ) As for dissuading people from believing in God, that is not my intent nor do I think that has occurred, at least I hope not anyway.

What’s it to you whether people believe or not? How is it hurting you any?

It doesn't bother me at all. In case you haven't noticed, I am generally defending a certain belief in God (Mormonism) by pointing out the ignorance and inconsistency of the anti Mormons. The vast majority of my family, friends and neighbors are Mormons and except for differences in religious beliefs I agree with them in most other things especially conservative political views.

I happen to believe that faith in God is a good thing for most people. Atheism provides no answers or strength when things are going bad. Atheism's only solace is scraps of truth, a meager fare indeed.

183 posted on 01/09/2010 8:11:19 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: Godzilla

That’s presuming a lot.....


184 posted on 01/09/2010 8:11:21 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: LeGrande; reaganaut
I have certainly falsified the Christian concept of God : )

No, you haven't, but you're entitled to your opinion anyway, even if it is wrong.

As for dissuading people from believing in God, that is not my intent nor do I think that has occurred, at least I hope not anyway.

You sure go to great lengths to *prove* that He doesn't exist, from what you call logic to trying to demonstrate that prophecy hasn't been fulfilled for someone who claims to not trying to dissuade people from their faith.

If you're not trying to convince others that God doesn't exist, then who are you trying to convince? Yourself?

In case you haven't noticed, I am generally defending a certain belief in God (Mormonism) by pointing out the ignorance and inconsistency of the anti Mormons.

No, I haven't noticed. Likely, neither has anyone else since what you are claiming you are doing isn't coming across that way.

So, how is claiming that you falsified the concept of the Mormon god defending the belief of Mormonism? And how is claiming that you falsified the idea of the Biblical God pointing out ignorance and inconsistency of the "anti Mormons" (who don't exist except as a construct in the anti-anti's minds.

If any God doesn't exist, why defend the belief in one over the belief in another?

What about the inconsistencies of Mormonism? Why not point out them as well?

If you want to point out the inconsistencies of those you label as *anti-Mormons* then you need to provide concrete examples of how their behavior is inconsistent with what the Bible teaches. Claiming that falsifying God or the idea of God or the concept of God, doesn't accomplish what you claim you are trying to accomplish.

185 posted on 01/09/2010 8:27:55 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; ejonesie22

Sometimes it’s a slow night on FR and boredom kicks in....

- - — — -
Or a slow week even....


186 posted on 01/09/2010 8:41:07 PM PST by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Godzilla
I'm sure you have a scientific article, reference or link on this.

H¥=E¥ or the familiar m = mo/√(1-v2/c2) it is just the standard fare. Is there something in particular that you don't understand?

187 posted on 01/09/2010 8:48:29 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: reaganaut
I agree with much of what you wrote especially the "certain doctrines were taught and believed by many but are NO longer considered doctrine," I was continually surprised by what I had thought to be doctrine, but upon examination of the scriptures or history turned out not to be the case.

But and this is an interesting but :) my examination (I also had total access to all church records) vindicated Smith more often than not. But it deviated greatly from the 'official' history. For example, the Saints weren't driven from Missouri because of Religious prosecution per se, it was because they weren't slave holders. Obviously the Church prefers religious prosecution as the cause (nothing like being persecuted to unite people) and the modern persecutors preferred polygamy. The truth never stood a chance : ) I saw stuff like that over and over again (and still do, everywhere else).

Don’t get me wrong, Christian Church History stinks and there have been many wrong things done and claimed in the name of Christianity, but that does not mean we should throw the baby out with the bath water.

Why not? Saying the Christian history stinks is being extremely polite. I studied the history not from the perspective of religion but from the history of warfare and found it hard to sympathize with the "Christians".

BTW, have you ever read any of Lee Strobel’s books?

Nah, I haven't read a religious book in years. I prefer history, science and fiction now.

188 posted on 01/09/2010 9:45:17 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande
That is correct. God is an idea that man created.


189 posted on 01/10/2010 4:33:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LeGrande
So it should be trivial to build a mass that can't be moved right?

If YOU say so; I guess it is.

190 posted on 01/10/2010 4:34:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LeGrande
 
I am subtly making fun of all those people who see images of Christ or Mary on a potato or burnt toast : )
 

191 posted on 01/10/2010 4:36:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut
 
My current primary research area is Medieval hagiography, and many of the experiences of the mystics require a “willing suspension of disbelief” even among the faithful.
 
 
Beware the Magic STONE!!!
 
 

192 posted on 01/10/2010 4:39:32 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LeGrande
I have certainly falsified the Christian concept of God
 
You HAVE??

 
 

193 posted on 01/10/2010 4:42:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LeGrande
New caption for above:

Atheism provides no answers or strength when things are going bad. Atheism's only solace is scraps of truth, a meager fare indeed.

194 posted on 01/10/2010 4:43:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LeGrande
Why didn't I think of that before!!
195 posted on 01/10/2010 4:44:27 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LeGrande
(I also had total access to all church records)

WOW!!!

196 posted on 01/10/2010 4:45:23 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
If YOU say so; I guess it is.

For an omnipotent being of course : )

197 posted on 01/10/2010 5:29:24 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande

Like I said, you can provide an appropriate scientific reference from a document.


198 posted on 01/10/2010 6:35:04 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
Like I said, you can provide an appropriate scientific reference from a document.

Hmm, I gave you Feynman's preferred forms of Shrodinger's and Einstein's equations. For some odd reason I thought you capable of grasping their significance, apparently I was mistaken.

Let me explain it in simple terms that anyone of reasonable intelligence should be able to understand. Between the two equations we have a simple principle and that is that energy and mass are both wave functions and interchangeable. In other words light and matter are both wave functions, i.e. the same thing.

So what kind of references would you like? I am partial to books like the New Quantum Universe or The Feynman Lectures on Physics. You may want to start with Feyman's chapter on the Special Theory of Relativity. Those are both relatively basic sources that can get you pointed in the right direction.

199 posted on 01/10/2010 7:58:00 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande

Incorrect, I want the link that includes “life”. Mass and energy along with wave theory are old school.


200 posted on 01/10/2010 8:01:24 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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