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Megachurch Pastor Asks For Urgent Donations [Demand by MegaMillionaire Rick Warren!]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34640771/ns/us_news-us_faith/ ^ | December 31, 2009

Posted on 12/31/2009 10:39:20 AM PST by Steelfish

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To: rwfromkansas

“He’s just as evil as Joel Osteen, pointing people away from Christ to some vague purpose that is not tied to glorifying God.”

Correct, but there IS a greater purpose.......to keep these ministers in the dough.


41 posted on 12/31/2009 11:36:19 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: latina4dubya

interesting.


42 posted on 12/31/2009 11:52:02 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: rwfromkansas
As I said, Rick Warren is not my pastor/priest, but he is a beliving Christan. In the opening pages of his book this is his first suggestion for living a meaningful life - "First, you discover your identity and purpose through a relationship with Jesus Christ."

I don't listen to Joel Olsteen, and have no frame of reference, but I accept the fact that many believers and many churches have used the Purpose Driven Life to renew the relationship they have to the church family and to Jesus. I am not a fan of mega-churches, but if 10% go and believe in Jesus that is as good as can be found at many places of worship.

43 posted on 12/31/2009 12:08:26 PM PST by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a

I think the most troubling thing about this request from his church is this guy has made millions on his Purpose Driven materials and has lured 300,000 pastors to participate in his “church growth” conferences and use their playbook. He has changed so many churches in what they do these days by creating a watered down, lukewarm church. This has not just affected his church and congregation but congregations all over the world. The Church of Laodicea front and center spreading it to many churches. The impact that the church has had in this nation has been minimal at best these past 10 years and it has a lot to do with Warren’s social gospel he has been spreading.


44 posted on 12/31/2009 12:12:38 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife

You Said IT!

“Warren’s social gospel he has been spreading.”

The Churchs’ role at this Time should be Declareing the Evils of Socialism, not Promoting Them.


45 posted on 12/31/2009 12:20:33 PM PST by bravotu (Have a Nice Day !)
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To: Steelfish

Purpose driven plate passing


46 posted on 12/31/2009 12:24:59 PM PST by Rightly Biased (If Clinton was the first black president then Obama is the first black Jesus.)
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To: Steelfish

Too big to fail


47 posted on 12/31/2009 12:33:56 PM PST by Rightly Biased (If Clinton was the first black president then Obama is the first black Jesus.)
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To: fatnotlazy
You will find the truth about the Purpose Driven seeker friendly movement here:

The purpose driven and emergent hijacking of Christianity

48 posted on 12/31/2009 12:42:00 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: circlecity

DIDACHE

11:20 And whosoever shall say in the Spirit, Give me
silver or anything else, ye shall not listen to him;

11:21 but if he tell you to give on behalf of others
that are in want, let no man judge him.


49 posted on 12/31/2009 12:45:15 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: circlecity
People forget that Saint Paul was a tent maker
and took no money for himself!
50 posted on 12/31/2009 12:47:24 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: Steelfish

Rick made oodles of multi-millions with his book “Purpose driven life”(title?). If I recall correctly thousands of church members across the country bought his book. And that’s not including some countries where the book made a bang! He needs to dig a little bit deeper into his OWN pockets and fork over the money to save his church.


51 posted on 12/31/2009 12:56:19 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: truthandlife

I read it all, and thanks. It pretty much confirmed what I had already surmised.


52 posted on 12/31/2009 2:09:44 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: truthandlife
I have read more than one study about mega-churches and how they attract large groups of people who then move on to smaller churches. My brother once was an elder at Willow Creek, before it became so big. He moved on and moved south, where he found mission work as part of his annual spirtual life.

I believe that getting people to go on missions is an important part of the life of a church. My church has missions to Miss and New Orleans as part of church building and home repairs. We go to many places in south America and it makes the people love the church and America a little more.

What people do with the material of Rick Warren is as individual as what Tea Party people or the members of the armed services...of which I am proud to have been a part of, but wish they did more. I shudder when I hear young people gush over personalities, like the president or Billary - where is the Hope if they believe in them? It is in the few who go beyond - as you think they should...Faith, Hope and Love. All the best to you.

53 posted on 12/31/2009 2:09:50 PM PST by q_an_a
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To: Steelfish
While I am sure that some of the member's of Warren's congregation are currently out of work, I am wondering if the level of tithing and/or average Sunday attendance, or both are also down, due to some member's chagrin over the highly personal political role Warren has been pursing in recent years. Does he ever poll his own church members on the very public political stands he takes?
54 posted on 12/31/2009 5:09:12 PM PST by Wuli
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