Skip to comments.Megachurch Pastor Asks For Urgent Donations [Demand by MegaMillionaire Rick Warren!]
Posted on 12/31/2009 10:39:20 AM PST by Steelfish
Megachurch Pastor Asks For Urgent Donations
Warren wants $900,000 by Jan. 1, says church facing budget crisis
Dec . 31, 2009 LAKE FOREST, California - Evangelical pastor Rick Warren appealed to parishioners at his California megachurch Wednesday to help fill a $900,000 deficit by the first of the year.
Warren made the appeal in a letter posted on the Saddleback Church Web site. It begins "Dear Saddleback Family, THIS IS AN URGENT LETTER."
"With 10 percent of our church family out of work due to the recession, our expenses in caring for our community in 2009 rose dramatically while our income stagnated," the letter reads.
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Rick should get a job. Jerk.
Didn’t Warren support Obama? Perhaps he needs a refresher course on ‘reaping & sowing’.
did he take a pay cut?
Didn’t see that. Apologies!
Warren is an idiot.
Our church saw what was coming and has tighten its belt and in good shape.
Not being aware of the “signs of the times” is not a lack of faith, but stupidity.
You kissed Zeros hindquarters...now live with it Warren.
I admit I don't know much about him or his church. But his situation is typical for quite a few charities. As need arises, donations have fallen, and many of these charities are really hurting.
For now, we do have the right to donate or not to donate to charity as we see fit. If socialism really takes hold, look for government to go even further into the charity business, corrupt it and leave the private charities to wither on the vine.
I’m sure his buddies in DC can whip up a TARP rescue for him.
Read Chapter 11 of the 3 translations.
They say in effect “if they ask for money they are false”!
Maybe he can threaten his flock that “God will take him home” if he doesn’t get the money, like Oral Roberts.
Yes, did Rick himself take a 10 percent pay-cut? And after that...did the upper management of his church also take a 10 percent pay-cut?
My church has had to reorganize and right-size this year. Warren needs to look for ways to cut expenses at Saddleback so they can divert resources elsewhere.
Right on! Way to go!
The Bible teaches Rick and me to live within our means.
I’ve had a bad year too. Perhaps I should have sent out a Christmas appeal with my cards for everyone to send me money too. (sarc/off)
I do not think Warren draws a salary at all today? In fact, I think he has given back every cent the church had paid him in the past. He lives off his royalties. He has made a big deal out of him doing this and then telling people he has done this.
I don’t like any of these mega-church corporations in the first place and Rick Warren can go screw himself in the second place. Nah, change that - Put Rick Warren screwing himself in the first place!
i thought he didn't receive any pay from the church... and i had read that when he made all that money from his books he paid back to the church all of his salary he had earned over the previous 25 years as a pastor...
and i also thought i heard he gave away 90 percent of his book earnings, and he and his wife live on 10 percent of the income...
p.s.--i am not a Rick Warren fan nor am i someone who dislikes him--i have no emotional response to him... after reading some of the posts here, i was thinkimg maybe it wasn't Rick Warren i heard these things about, but i'm pretty sure it was Rick Warren...
he doesn't draw a salary...
Echoes of Jim Baker.
Take it out of your own bank account you charlatan!!
This is the first time I’ve seen the Didache used on FR. Thumbs up!
But didn't Paul himself take up a collection in Macedonia and Asia for the poor in Jerusalem? One just need exercise spiritual discretion. The wolves are out there (many on TBN) yet so are sincere sheep.
Didn't the Apostle Paul make tents when things got rought? Career ministries sicken me.
without the “t” even.
If he doesn’t take a salary, and he already donates 90 percent of his income, then he’s already doing his part.
A lot of churches and charities are having to re-organize their debt and expenses. I assume they are no different. They’ll get through it.
Our church leadership said very little, but from what little they said I know we went through the same. We’re still growing, though, and if you keep motoring forward these things work themselves through.
Ah - a voice of reason. I am surprised at the snarky comments by people because Warren does not fit the mode of some churches. I atteneded his service two years ago and can say - it is not for me!! But it was clear that they have many programs to help others. The reached out to an Anglican group when they lost, via a law suit, their property to the National church. Folks like Warren are going to be on the bad side of someone - because he does so much to reach out - it was a similar failure - in my opinion to GWB - nice guy trying to be an accomidating Christian.
But I don’t know if having a “day job” helps all that much when you have thousands unemployed and desperate.
He doesn't take a salary. He donates 90 percent of his income.
Most ministers make their living doing what they do. Most don't do it for no salary.
I get a real kick out of these preachers begging for hundreds of thousands of dollars...in Christ name. LOL....Jesus wept.
If memory serves; I believe it actually goes like this. At some point in his book sales, Rick stopped taking a salary from Saddleback Church. And after the income reached the astronomical levels which it did, he GAVE BACK an amount equal to ALL THE SALARY he had EVER been paid by Saddleback Church.
As to the current predicament at the church; I have no idea who or what is to blame. However, I believe Rick could probably write a check for $900K without breaking a sweat. Why doesn’t he do THAT, if he REALLY BELIEVES in the charitable work Saddleback is doing?
BS, baloney, moronic.
Cause Jesus wants him to have the money...dont you know nuthin. :)
This moron needs to get some purpose driven into him so everything will be all right.
Rick Warren is a fraud and servant of Satan.
I attend 2 churches one is close by when I can’t get to the other church. It is really too liberal for me, but I do absolutely love my Sunday class teacher. At any rate,
I am going to send them a note on the request for donations that due to increased taxes to fund obamacare, I won’t be able to contribute much
Send them a bill for gas money. :-)
He’s just as evil as Joel Osteen, pointing people away from Christ to some vague purpose that is not tied to glorifying God.
“Hes just as evil as Joel Osteen, pointing people away from Christ to some vague purpose that is not tied to glorifying God.”
Correct, but there IS a greater purpose.......to keep these ministers in the dough.
I don't listen to Joel Olsteen, and have no frame of reference, but I accept the fact that many believers and many churches have used the Purpose Driven Life to renew the relationship they have to the church family and to Jesus. I am not a fan of mega-churches, but if 10% go and believe in Jesus that is as good as can be found at many places of worship.
I think the most troubling thing about this request from his church is this guy has made millions on his Purpose Driven materials and has lured 300,000 pastors to participate in his “church growth” conferences and use their playbook. He has changed so many churches in what they do these days by creating a watered down, lukewarm church. This has not just affected his church and congregation but congregations all over the world. The Church of Laodicea front and center spreading it to many churches. The impact that the church has had in this nation has been minimal at best these past 10 years and it has a lot to do with Warren’s social gospel he has been spreading.
You Said IT!
“Warrens social gospel he has been spreading.”
The Churchs’ role at this Time should be Declareing the Evils of Socialism, not Promoting Them.
Purpose driven plate passing
Too big to fail
11:20 And whosoever shall say in the Spirit, Give me
silver or anything else, ye shall not listen to him;
11:21 but if he tell you to give on behalf of others
that are in want, let no man judge him.