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To: Steelfish
One more legal reason to refuse to obey the law once it is passed. It is patently non demmomcratic and therefore unconstitutional. Makes a good argument in court.

Its not a law, its a fiat.

It may even be a bill of attainder, we will have to see what the punishment is in it. ( The Constitution of the United States, Article I, Section 9, paragraph 3 provides that: "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law will be passed." "The Bill of Attainder Clause was intended not as a narrow, technical (and therefore soon to be outmoded) prohibition, but rather as an implementation of the separation of powers, a general safeguard against legislative exercise of the judicial function or more simply - trial by legislature." U.S. v. Brown, 381 U.S. 437, 440 (1965).)

15 posted on 01/05/2010 2:14:09 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Candor7
Its not a law, its a fiat. ... It may even be a bill of attainder, we will have to see what the punishment is in it.

That's what I've been saying since day one of HR 3200 becoming public(1).

It IS a Bill of Attainder(2) as there are Fines and Penalties included in the Bill for failing to comply with congress' dictates.
You are automatically guilty by statute -- without trial, evidence, or any constitutional protection.

(1) I've been unable to find the 'current' senate version of Obama Deathcare and HR 3200 has been amended numerous times.
(2) According to 'Find Law's' legal definitions, this is actually a 'Bill of Pain and Penalties', as a 'Bill of Attainder' involves the Death Sentence. But it's still considered and called a 'Bill of Attainder' and still unconstitutional

23 posted on 01/05/2010 6:09:59 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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