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Ron Paul tells Cheney to back off Obama
thehill.com ^ | Jan. 5, 2010 | Eric Zimmermann

Posted on 01/05/2010 10:10:32 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) took a shot at Dick Cheney last night, saying the former Vice President wasn't in any position to be criticizing President Obama.

"Well, I think he had his eight years and he's caused a lot of trouble for our country and he perpetuated a war in Iraq that was unnecessary and wrong-headed," Paul said of Cheney on CNN's Larry King Live. "So I would say that it would be best he not be so critical right now."

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1 posted on 01/05/2010 10:10:33 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ron Paul needs to shut up


2 posted on 01/05/2010 10:11:50 AM PST by MaxCUA
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To: MaxCUA

I’m just shaking my head here.


3 posted on 01/05/2010 10:13:34 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: MaxCUA

**Ron Paul needs to shut up**

He Doesn’t KNOW HOW!


4 posted on 01/05/2010 10:13:49 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Ron Paul tells Cheney to back off Obama.
Cheney tells Ron Paul "Make me."
6 posted on 01/05/2010 10:14:33 AM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I think by this time we can all agree RP has blown whatever chance he had. I love the guys monetary conservatism - but on foreign policy and this, I'm left shaking my head.

The war was justified in my opinion and succeeded in bring the fight to their doorstep instead of ours.....proven by the fact we had not one attack after 9/11.

Now we may be at odds among ourselves at what our continued presence looks like - but I think we are all in agreement that a presence is required, lest the place go completely in the crapper and over run with jihadi's

Thoughts?

7 posted on 01/05/2010 10:15:44 AM PST by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe to show there are no hard feelings, Cheney could invite Paul to go hunting with him.


8 posted on 01/05/2010 10:16:14 AM PST by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Ron Paul the nut strikes again!
9 posted on 01/05/2010 10:16:19 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder if Ron Paul knows why people call him a kook?


10 posted on 01/05/2010 10:16:24 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How long has Ron Paul been living off the taxpayer...30yrs? 35?


11 posted on 01/05/2010 10:16:33 AM PST by roses of sharon (This is a feral government, broken from the civilizing constraints of the Constitution.)
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To: ActrFshr

The GOP unpopularity was caused by wimpiness and ineffectiveness. Had they had balls to push conservatism they would have won big. Cheney is right, and Ron Paul is one major idiot. He is the one that needs to STFU.


12 posted on 01/05/2010 10:17:08 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: ActrFshr
Ron Paul’s right. Neocon RINOs like Cheney need to shut up first. Their unpopularity is what killed the GOP in ‘06 and ‘08. If Cheney and his goons don’t shut up fast, the Dems will win again in ‘10.

Wow, what a twisted sense of history you have there.
Or did you forget the /sarcasm tag?
13 posted on 01/05/2010 10:17:16 AM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Revelation 911

RP and friends are still stinging from the loss of Saddam and Sons.....and as a result Israel remains...and no Jewish kids are being blow up on their school buses and in nightclubs.


14 posted on 01/05/2010 10:20:15 AM PST by roses of sharon (This is a feral government, broken from the civilizing constraints of the Constitution.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There goes Ron Paul again, around the bend. Sometimes he makes sense and then he adds something and boom, his head went soft.

Maybe he’s bi-polar. Uh huh.


15 posted on 01/05/2010 10:20:47 AM PST by carolina71
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ron Paul can’t possibly be as stupid as he sounds, can he?


16 posted on 01/05/2010 10:20:48 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives unite behind conservative Republicans in the primaries!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There goes Ron Paul again, around the bend. Sometimes he makes sense and then he adds something and boom, his head went soft.

Maybe he’s bi-polar. Uh huh.


17 posted on 01/05/2010 10:21:02 AM PST by carolina71
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Who to believe, Ron Paul or Dick Cheney?

No contest, I pick Cheney anytime over fruitcake Paul.

It's easy to be an ideologue, not so easy to be realistic and pragmatic.

18 posted on 01/05/2010 10:21:04 AM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There goes Ron Paul again, around the bend. Sometimes he makes sense and then he adds something and boom, his head went soft.

Maybe he’s bi-polar. Uh huh.


19 posted on 01/05/2010 10:21:12 AM PST by carolina71
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To: astyanax; ActrFshr
Wow, what a twisted sense of history you have there.

ActrFshr is a neocon FReeper. I'm not surprised.

20 posted on 01/05/2010 10:21:12 AM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder if Ron Paul knows why people call him a kook?


21 posted on 01/05/2010 10:21:24 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Same thing he says about Lincoln:"he perpetuated a war in Iraq America that was unnecessary and wrong-headed."
22 posted on 01/05/2010 10:22:17 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: HerrBlucher

Imho Actrfshr is fundamentally correct, and I also think Paul saying “not be so critical right now” is a far cry from “telling Cheney to shut up”.

I partially lay the blame on the GOP and by extension Conservatism on A)Pres Bush not hitting back on the chorus of critics B) GOP free spending and lack of a core of principles.

The Paul/Cheney dynamic is the fight at the core of Republican Party, is the GOP Libertarian/Nationalism or is it WoT/Globalism?

At this point I honestly have no idea, and no leader is emerging to lead one line of thought or another, I enjoy Cheney’s Bluntness, I am fascinated by Paul’s Idealism.


23 posted on 01/05/2010 10:22:31 AM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: ActrFshr
Neocon RINOs like Cheney need to shut up first


24 posted on 01/05/2010 10:23:16 AM PST by nhwingut (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: ActrFshr

rupaul is a tool. Go Cheney!


25 posted on 01/05/2010 10:23:31 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

...so let me get this straight...is it Ron Paul’s position that if we just stay home and ignore everything in the Middle East; the terrorists will just leave us alone? Really?


26 posted on 01/05/2010 10:26:57 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: roses of sharon

Iraq was the largest threat to Israel?

Really?

Saddam was paying for terror attacks inside Israel, the larger threat to Israel imho is Europe’s alliance with the PA.

And for my .02, Israel has gotten weaker with the more US aid they have received, since 1982 the IDF has lost their fighting spirit and IMI has stopped innovating, there is no need to as US military grants simply makes developing indiginous military industry not sustainable, they have went from Gali l’s to m4’s in a generation and that also imho, is a nmistake.


27 posted on 01/05/2010 10:28:54 AM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ron Paul is an IDIOT! He should shut up and go away.


28 posted on 01/05/2010 10:31:41 AM PST by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Ron Paul and Rev. Wright ~ Perfect Together.


29 posted on 01/05/2010 10:32:52 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He can kiss my ...


30 posted on 01/05/2010 10:32:53 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: roses of sharon

oh please -


31 posted on 01/05/2010 10:33:09 AM PST by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: bcsco

Okay, I’ll bite. Just what is a neocon FReeper?


32 posted on 01/05/2010 10:33:59 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: ActrFshr
If Cheney and his goons don’t shut up fast, the Dems will win again in ‘10.

The "50 Cent Party" is heard from.

The only thing faster than the speed of light is the speed of a noob troll to a Cheney and/or Palin thread.

33 posted on 01/05/2010 10:34:04 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: ActrFshr
Nope noob. Cheney has miles more experience than Paul. Ron Paul doesn't believe there's terrorism.

Ron Paul on War & Peace

People were bound to start wondering eventually, why we were attacked? Not because they sought to excuse the attackers, but out of natural curiosity regarding what made these men tick. Looking for motive is not the same thing as making excuses; detectives always look for motive behind crime, but no one thinks they are looking to excuse murder.
Source: The Revolution: A Manifesto, by Ron Paul, p. 15 Apr 1, 2008

We have to understand the motives of those who come here & kill us. If we don’t understand that, we are not going to win this fight. They come here & kill us because we occupy their lands, and they rationally reason [that] we have to do something about it.
Source: 2007 GOP Values Voter Presidential Debate Sep 17, 2007

Paul is a nut.

34 posted on 01/05/2010 10:36:29 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Funny.

Kinda like a chihuahua yapping at a rottweiler.


35 posted on 01/05/2010 10:37:28 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: ActrFshr

The only person with a worse view on foreign relations than Obama is Ron Paul. I am with him on many domestic issues, but he has his head in the sand on the threats of Islamic Jihad. At least Obama pretty much let the military finish their job in Iraq and has given troop support to the Generals in Afghanistan. Don’t agree with some aspects, but he didn’t cut and run like Paul would likely do.


36 posted on 01/05/2010 10:39:13 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: padre35
Blowing up kids and their mothers daily, on buses, in restaurants, and marketplaces is faster and more damaging to a nations psyche than the slow process of stealing their land in “peace” (blackmail) negotiations.

But, RP still has Iran!

37 posted on 01/05/2010 10:39:37 AM PST by roses of sharon (This is a feral government, broken from the civilizing constraints of the Constitution.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; rabscuttle385

The loon speaks again..........


38 posted on 01/05/2010 10:40:11 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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39 posted on 01/05/2010 10:43:45 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: ActrFshr
Guess we need to remind you people again.

To all antiwar moonbats, Paulistas included:

Hey, if you don't like FR and or our support the war policies leave. Go find a website that supports your unfortunate, short-sighted and misguided antiwar efforts. It's really that simple.

In case you antiwar Paulistas haven't noticed, Free Republic supports the war effort 100%. Many of our chapters protest against the antiwar moonbats either weekly, monthly or whenever the opportunity arises. The DC Chapter has been protesting against the antiwar moonbats EVERY Friday night at Walter Reed for three years.

Free Republic has co-sponsored several cross country caravans and hundreds of rallies in cities all across the country and in DC against the antiwar moonbats and in support of our Commander-in-chief, our troops, the war effort and our Gold Star and Blue Star families, many of whom are FReepers.

When you are supporting antiwar moonbats you are working against Free Republic's mission, hurting our efforts, hurting our families who have lost loved ones or have loved ones involved in the fighting, hurting our troops, damaging their morale, working against our efforts to defeat the enemy, and, in fact, giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Antiwar moonbats are the domestic enemy. Antiwar moonbats willingly give aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime. In my book, that's tantamount to treason. Ron Paul is an antiwar moonbat. You figure it out. If antiwar moonbats are the enemy and Ron Paul is an aid and comfort supplying antiwar moonbat, then Ron Paul IS the enemy!

If you Paulistas are looking for support on FR for an antiwar moonbat who is giving aid and comfort to our enemies, you're nuts! Free Republic will NEVER support antiwar moonbats!

As far as our official policy on Ron Paul is concerned, it's the same policy we have for his antiwar moonbat allies the traitors Harry Reid, Chuckie Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Jack Murtha, Cindy Sheehan, Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda, CodePink, International Answer, et al and their flaming antiwar spam monkeys. Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!

Where the hell did you guys ever get the idea that enemy supporting antiwar moonbats would be welcome on FR?

That plain enough for you or do I need to spell it out?

168 posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 6:22:47 PM by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)

40 posted on 01/05/2010 10:43:53 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And yet there are myriad FReepers who still sing this guy’s praises.


41 posted on 01/05/2010 10:44:39 AM PST by calex59
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To: Carley
Just what is a neocon FReeper?

Nothing. The term has no meaning whatsoever anymore. It's just an empty pejorative thrown around by mindless political neophytes.

42 posted on 01/05/2010 10:47:32 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: ActrFshr

Neocon is code for Jews. Ron Paul is Lyndon LeRouche’s clone.


43 posted on 01/05/2010 10:48:05 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ActrFshr

Always some knucklehead paulista shows up to defend him no matter how stupid.


44 posted on 01/05/2010 10:50:25 AM PST by packrat35 (Democrat Healthcare is a 9-11 Attack on the Constitution)
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To: roses of sharon

Tragic to be sure, the permenant loss of Israeli sovereign lands is far more destructive in the medium and long term.

In this way I agree with Ron Paul’s view on foreign aid, imho the Israeli’s should be allowed to do whatever they need to do to protect their country with -0- interference on the part of the US, the flip side of that is no US aid to Israel either.

The culture in DC is if they send Israel money, the US may as well sit in on the Knesset and Cabinet.

Isolationism? Yeah maybe, then again the US Gov is functionally bankrupt.


45 posted on 01/05/2010 10:55:23 AM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: massgopguy
Calling Cheney or any other gentile is a cover for their antisemitism. The thinking is, the Iraq war was manufactured and sold by Zionists for the benefit of the Jewish state — therefore anyone who supported it is a filthy, Jew-loving neocon. But if you call them on their Nazi-like tendencies, they cry "Cheney's not a Jew!".

It's a little game they picked up from their Nazi masters.

46 posted on 01/05/2010 10:56:03 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: McGruff

Ooooh!
Nice!


47 posted on 01/05/2010 10:57:23 AM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ron, please shut up.


48 posted on 01/05/2010 10:57:28 AM PST by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a bunch of Communists to your Administration?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is one of the reasons I am not a Ron Paul fan, he is a phony and a fool as far as I am concerned. Dick Cheney helped in liberating over 27 million people from a tyrannical terrorist supporting fanatic. What the hell has Ron Paul done with his life except suck off the government tit?


49 posted on 01/05/2010 11:05:49 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Ron Paul, Osama Obama, two peas in a pod. Not a dimes worth of difference between them as far as our national security. Both blame America for any problem in the world and are both surrender monkeys.
50 posted on 01/05/2010 11:06:08 AM PST by John D
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