Posted on 01/05/2010 1:52:27 PM PST by autumnraine
“”trying to get Obama out by challenging his citizenship is probably not worth the investment in time and energy.””
“Trying to get the truth out and upholding the Constitution takes to long and is too hard.”
Those are your words not mine as you can see above. If you think you have the proof and you can get it through the courts in less than three years have at it.
I am a “birther,” meaning I have serious questions about 0’s background, birth, and constitutional eligibility for the Presidency. HOWEVER —
I’m weighing in late on this, but here’s what I think:
While certainly continuing to dig into his background, we must concentrate our efforts now on winning the November elections. That is the quickest and most effective way to stop this man and his minions from ruining our country.
Secondly, we must make political moves in the various states to keep him off the ballot in 2012 unless he provides proof of his birth and background.
Eye on the ball, folks. And the ball, in this case, is rendering Barack Obama, or whoever he is, impotent.
Politically, of course.
Beck’s star hasn’t crashed.
Just because he doesn’t agree with you (and many of us) doesn’t mean he isn’t doing a fine job of bringing other major issues to light.
Beck doesn’t have to be in on this. He’s got his hands full already.
I agree with you 100%. I sent an email to him today and it wasn't pretty. He violated his own prime directives like "Question with Boldness" "Speak without Fear". Rather than talk to the Birthers, he talked down to them. And the way he insulted a HUGE percentage of his supporters, he basically committed political suicide. My opinion of him went to zero yesterday. He lost me and I will wager he lost a lot more than just me. Will be interesting to see his viewership percentages and ratings in the next week or so.
Having Kenyan in the White House is dismantling the Constitution.
If anyone questions about obama’s eligibility, the only course of action is to seek the truth without a predetermined outcome.
What little we know suggests something is not right with the narrative. He is hiding something. A potential candidate for the Oval Office does not scrub the world of his prior life unless there is somethinbg to hide.
Pretend it has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt that obama is a NBC. Where does that leave us? It allows us to eliminate that theory. It does not answer the question ‘Why has the President of the United States erased 99.9% of his prior life?’
On the flip side, pretend we have a video tape of Stanley Anne giving birth to Obama Jr in a hut in the middle of the Kenyan jungle, but no court in the land will touch it. What has it gotten us? The truth. The information would be out there.
Damn. I am so long winded I forgot my point...Oh yeah If anyone thinks birthers are passengers on a ship of fools. So what? Don't begrudge the effort, because sometimes the answers to other questions come from where we least expect it.
As far as Beck goes, it is a mistake to expect him or anyone else to fight this battle. The answers are out there. We do not need anyone in the media to find that truth. I did not see it but the fact that he mocked birthers tells me all I need to know. Behind his facade he is nothing but a narrow minded, petty little man.
I'm sure it's my fault that you didn't recognize that whole last section as satire, but I can't take this very seriously, and am surprised at the number of seemingly bright people who are jumping on this merry-go-round.
You should have kept that thought secret. You just dropped your IQ publicly in front of everybody.
Beck is clearly unstable. Bipolar maybe? He’s lucid for 10 - 15 minutes and then lapses into sophomoric flights of fancy. sd
Big "if" hanging out there. Why would it even been an issue in 1961? They were a well off family by all accounts, so what would it matter? His mother was a citizen and by most measures that would make him a citizen anyway.
Hanging a whole theory on an "if" that doesn't make sense for a birth announcement is a leap of faith I can't take when easier answers are available.
The issue we face, if we take Obama at his word, is how to challenge him. Since the military was not willing to challenge Obama’s credentials, a long shot given their active prosecution of their own combat soldiers, we must use civil law. More need to learn about and follow the active legal cases challenging Obama’s right to authority. The Kerchner/Apuzzo case is comprehensive. It is wending through courts of appeal. But that was to be expected.
The new Donofrio/Pidgeon/Chrysler Dealers case has been filed. The Quo Warranto case long proclaimed the only path to presidential removal by Donofrio is to be filed soon.
The Taitz cases are progressing.
We need to bring attention to these cases. Apuzzo has published his case and written about the legal foundation on his web site. As public sentiment shifts, some court will take Apuzzo, because it is well-formed. He may not get all the counts in front of the court, but any one would be devastating to Obama. Sadly, the courts are political, and judges political appointments. But as voters lose their standard of living some judge will respond.
The Chrysler takeover seems so contrary to our philosophy of individual freedoms, we can hope the case is well structured. I believe that the more attention paid to these cases the better. It may be like a cricket game, taking weeks or months, but with an evolving strategy which we could come to understand, because freedom is at stake.
Donofrio is as well prepared as anyone, better than most, to discuss citizenship law. He hasn't yet filed the Quo Warranto case, but claims he will. Now he has clients. If Obama is illegitimate his takeover of the auto industry is has no legal validity. Donofrio knows the attorney general will not prosecute his case, but has discussed how to use the law to overcome the obvious conflict of interest - Holder is already defending Obama and could not legitimately prosecute him.
Taitz has been Alinsky’d, and is the least experienced attorney. She began, over a year ago, focusing on Obama’s failure of natural born citizen eligibility. Perhaps she shouldn't have pursued multiple social security numbers and a driver's license from Connecticut, where he never lived, but she is a warrior. The sensationalism, getting in front of the public is a tactic. She certainly exposed some malpractice. When the Obama team failed to respond to a petition, she won certain discovery, but was dissuaded by a judge, who promised to hear the case on the merits if she would forgive the deadline oversight and give the Obama team another chance to respond. Did it matter that the judge was assigned a clerk from the law firm defending Obama, the firm whose chief council is now Obama’s White House Council, weeks before his decision was due? It appears he lied to her - but I wasn't there. If we can't trust our legal system we will have anarchy, and guns will rule.
Watching the legal process takes patience, but that is our best chance at peaceful resolution.
That single shred of evidence is right in front of GB's nose but he is too blind to see it. As it currently stands he is the joke and the disgrace.
You could save yourself the drama and just not click on these”Birther” threads.
I'm sure it's my fault that you didn't recognize that whole last section as satire, but I can't take this very seriously, and am surprised at the number of seemingly bright people who are jumping on this merry-go-round.
Ummmm..., there is no joking around with Obama Derangement Syndrome types... they are "very serious" and don't you forget it... I mean, the world is going to end in December of 2012 (hey! the Mayans knew it way back then about Obama) -- if we don't find Obama's birth certificate... :-)
You could save yourself the drama and just not click on these”Birther” threads.
It's kind of like a "car wreck" -- it's such an unusual sight, seeing the twisted and torn metal and shapes that are hard to envision -- so, it's hard to take your eyes off the "car wreck" here on Free Republic... :-)
As it currently stands, the movement is a joke and a disgrace.”
Succinct and correct.
True.
The evidence is overwhelming and available for any jury to view, the problem is that the judges have turned into Kangaroos. This a very deep system that has been under threats and these judges have no unification.
What we the average Americans need to do is to get as many high ranking judges together for an audience, individually these judges fear for there lives, hopefully in some fashion if they were more unified can they gain some fortitude and directly challenge this false representative acting out in the Whitehouse.
We need to convince the SCOTUS that America wants their wisdom in the future, because if they continue to run and hide under each others robes they will forever lose the faith in justice by the citizens of America.
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