Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: fr_freak
If the grandparents want to ensure that Barry has full citizenship privileges without any undue hassle, they simply report the birth after the fact in accordance with Hawaii law, then the paper picks it up on its routine scan and prints the announcement. No conspiracy necessary, other than the grandparents wanted their grandchild to have American citizenship.

Even if he were born in Kenya, as the child of a US citizen mother, he was entitled to naturalized citizenship under the immigration laws at the time. All his mom would have to do is fill out an application and show proof of her maternity and US citizenship. See my profile for the relevant citations of the law in effect at the time.

Now why would his grandparents risk a felony purjury conviction and fake his birth, when his mom could easily obtain US citizenship for him through perfectly legal means?

182 posted on 01/05/2010 4:47:28 PM PST by curiosity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | View Replies ]


To: curiosity
“Now why would his grandparents risk a felony purjury conviction and fake his birth, when his mom could easily obtain US citizenship for him through perfectly legal means?”

BECAUSE HE'S EVIL! A socialist, Marxist, communist, third world Muslim environmental extremist who eats puppies and will destroy the entire country by next Tuesday! Who can even fathom what insidious evil-for-evil's sake the family of such a man is capable of? They probably used copies of the Constitution as toilet paper.

Remember, we've seen the proof of his non-citizenship in our own minds.

189 posted on 01/05/2010 5:08:35 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 182 | View Replies ]

To: curiosity

You are not correct. She was not eligible under immigration laws at the time to transfer citizenship based solely on her own status as she was not old enough.


218 posted on 01/05/2010 7:01:38 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 182 | View Replies ]

To: curiosity; Anitius Severinus Boethius

I’m actually tired of going round and round with these arguments in these threads, each time having to re-explain the reasoning to those who can’t be bothered to keep up.

Obama’s mother was too young to automatically confer citizenship to her son at the time of his birth. In order to be an automatic citizen, either his father would have to be a US citizen, or he would have had to have been born on US soil. Since his father was NOT a US citizen, that leaves only the location of birth. Given Hawaii’s lax attitude regarding that in 1961 (as in, you can tell us days or weeks after the birth that the kid was born in your house and we’ll treat it the same as if he were born in a hospital) it would have been zero risk and avoided tremendous legal hassle for the grandparents simply to report the birth after the fact as having been in Hawaii. Who would know better? Who would ever care enough to research it? The grandparents couldn’t have known that one day Barack would run for president, so they would have no reason to worry that someone would look into it.

This theory requires some supposition, but so does any theory, including those that assume he was, indeed, born in Hawaii. If he would release the birth certificate as McCain did, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. But he won’t. That fact alone should make any sane person ask why. So far we have zero concrete evidence that he was born in Hawaii. The Hawaii officials issue only vague statements that they have certified he HAS a birth certificate, and a newspaper announced that he was, in fact, born. Whoopee.


249 posted on 01/05/2010 10:53:45 PM PST by fr_freak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 182 | View Replies ]

To: curiosity; fr_freak
Now why would his grandparents risk a felony purjury conviction and fake his birth, when his mom could easily obtain US citizenship for him through perfectly legal means?

Nice try. You just forgot that she had to be 19 years old to do that, and she was ONLY 18, case closed!!!

251 posted on 01/05/2010 11:00:27 PM PST by danamco
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 182 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson