Posted on 01/12/2010 2:22:15 PM PST by Pyro7480
The big quakes in Mexico City have generally cause high levels of damage in the city center due to liquefaction and high-rise construction whereas the slums do much better.
I respect your opinion, but please tell me or show me how or where I am wrong on the points I have posted?
We shall see tomorrow how much you know about physics and civil engineering.
Given past history how many of these Haitians will hit the boats and come to the US. They will be admitted on a “temporary” humanitarian basis, a la Central Americans fleeing the war and Hurricane Andrew, but we all know “temporary” is gobspeak for permanent.
Given past history how many of these Haitians will hit the boats and come to the US. They will be admitted on a “temporary” humanitarian basis, a la Central Americans fleeing the war and Hurricane Andrew, but we all know “temporary” is gobspeak for permanent.
You blame the poor people of Haiti for the corruption of their government and the exploitation of their land, in racist terms.
Been away....looks bad.
And they would be right, and people who believe otherwise would be wrong. One unfortunate aspect of modern society is the "everyone is entitled to their opininion" statement or its variations; the idea that all ideas or thoughts are equally valid and none are more right or wrong than others. It's a dangerous and intellectually corrosive perspective.
We've got a solid 100 year instrumental record of large earthquakes, and a historical record (of varying lengths and accuracy, depending on what part of the world) of large earthquakes extending back in some places thousands of years.
There is such a thing as truth, and making informed factual statements about the world using reasoning, evidence, and statistics.
From any unbiased evidentiary perspective, with our knowledge of the historical record, this earthquake (and all recent earthquakes) are routine.
There's nothing remotely unusual, no increasing trend, etc. about any sorts of recent destructive geological activity, be it earthquakes or volcanoes. It's unfortunate that people attempt to twist the evidence to either forward a religious agenda, or out of wishful thinking.
The problem is the reality is pretty terrifying to a lot of people; this quake was caused by basic physics, on a fault that has existed for millions of years and generated tens of thousands of earthquakes before humans even lived near it or built a city of millions on top of it. There's no deeper meaning or message to it beyond the need to understand and manage seismic risk. There's nothing the people of Haiti did or failed to do that either caused, or could have prevented, this quake. It simply happened.
"Earthquakes in diverse places" have occured continously for the 4 billion+ year history of the earth; thus it's useless as a predictive tool. The whole point of the Bilblical passage is likely to emphasize the complete uselessness and futility of attempting to predict the second coming or the end times or what have you; unfortunately people taking the passage literally, in combination with unfortunate ignorance of basic geology has led to a great deal of misinformation.
Large earthquakes, even in a year of average activity, are not spaced evenly throughout the year; pure randomness will cause meaningless "clumps" of large quakes, along with periods of at times several months with no large quakes.
There have been a number of periods of upwards of 3-4 months without large quakes and/or destructive quakes, and for some reason I don't see people taking those periods as evidence the end times AREN'T near. Suggests the analysis of this activity isn't particularly objective.
I'm going to go with what God said, and what He put in Scripture. Especially since so much of it is coming to pass.
We’re not light skinned enough?
Everything in the post, as others have pointed out, is essentially factually correct.
The question is WHY is Haiti (or any other horrifically bad off country) a disaster?
Obviously the people of those countries have some degree of responsibility; the idea that everything can be blamed on outside factors such as colonialism and capitalism, has not been helpful to those countries.
But the fact that Haiti’s population was overwhelmingly comprised of people forcibly taken from a variety of locations in Africa and dumped there certainly has to have been a factor to some degree.
Ha, nope. Are you speaking of our cINc? Don't know what "WON" stands for but asuming it's Obama? Still waiting for his message, but as stated above I live closer to Ferndale. I believe this whole area will be declared a disaster area. We're all awaiting Obama's fly over since most the Humboldt State wacky yokels( and etc commie left wingnut dopers) voted for the narcissistic hopey/changey messiah golf pro wannabe.
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In November 2008, following the collapse of a school in Petionville, the mayor of Port-au-Prince estimated about 60 percent of the buildings were shoddily built and unsafe in normal circumstances.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cb_haiti_earthquake
I’ve come to expect better from you, Strategerist, than to be defending that post.
I also don’t deny that Haiti is in terrible shape.
But I do take issue with an earlier poster saying NOTHING GOOD has ever come out of Haiti. Kind of broad isn’t it? There are good people in Haiti.
As I said in my earlier post, I did mission work there and I met some amazing people in churches there. People who lived on a cup of rice a day were offering us their food. The love these Christians showed to others was tangible and unmatched by anything I have seen since. Perhaps because it has to be, because on the opposite extreme, right outside their doors, the voodooists were as active and evil as you could imagine.
One of my husband’s managers is a son of Haitian immigrants (yes, LEGAL). His dad is currently in Haiti. He just called hubby and asked for prayers.
The people in Haiti have lived under a corrupt and self serving dictatorship for generations. I guess I don’t understand why that would make them worthy of being “flushed down the toilet”? God in Heaven have mercy on us all.
We have friends that adopted from haiti and they said the same.
If you read about the history of Haiti since its independence 200 some odd years ago, you have to shake your head in disbelief. For example, most rulers were either poisoned, dismembered, met some other untimely demise, or had to run for their lives to countries like Jamaica.
Haiti has no one to blame but itself for the shape that it's in.
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