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Pickens reduces order for wind turbines, puts Panhandle wind farm on hold
Dallas Morning News ^ | January 13, 2010 | ELIZABETH SOUDER

Posted on 01/14/2010 6:14:53 PM PST by george76

The energy investor, who made wind power a key part of his plan to wean Americans off foreign oil, said Tuesday he will now take delivery of 300 turbines, which he will use for wind farms in Canada and Minnesota.

None of the turbines will come to Texas, as originally planned.

Meanwhile, Pickens continues his campaign to persuade Americans to use natural gas to fuel heavy trucks, rather than diesel. Doing so, he said, could cut Middle East oil imports in half.

In May 2008, Pickens announced that his company, Mesa Power LP, would order 687 wind turbines, or 1,000 megawatts of capacity, from GE for about $2 billion. That's about the size of a nuclear power plant.

Those turbines were originally meant to become the world's largest wind farm, in the Texas Panhandle.

Now, Pickens says none of the turbines will go to Texas.

He said the Panhandle will still lack transmission lines to carry the power when he begins to take delivery of the turbines in 2011.

Pickens said he will build a wind farm in the Panhandle when transmission is built.

When Pickens announced his energy plan in 2008, he offered two suggestions: Use natural gas for vehicles, and use wind for electric power.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: canada; energy; naturalgas; oil; pickens; tboonepickens; turbines; windfarms

1 posted on 01/14/2010 6:14:58 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Wind does not work.
End of story!


2 posted on 01/14/2010 6:18:28 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: george76

Scheme.....scam....scamola....sham.....fraud....


3 posted on 01/14/2010 6:18:53 PM PST by JoenTX (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: george76

The green economy seems to be headed for full scale collapse before it ever gets off the ground. Keep in mind all the other jobs associated with the wind farms are also off the table now as well.

Michigan wind projects also canceled.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426536/posts


4 posted on 01/14/2010 6:18:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: george76

The wind in Texas don’t blow...It sucks!


5 posted on 01/14/2010 6:20:23 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Michigan wind sucks harder, its our governor that blows.


6 posted on 01/14/2010 6:24:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

Pickens is a shyster. I ran into him often in Amarillo when Mesa Ltd Partners was there, and before he stole the city’s gas field. What a crook. Since he couldn’t scam taxpayers into paying for his transmission lines, he’s taking his football and going home. I’ve found a lot of people idolize him, but remember he made a LOT of money through hostile takeover attempts, where companies paid him millions to go away.


7 posted on 01/14/2010 6:33:28 PM PST by TStro
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To: george76

He’s right about use of domestic natural gas for vehicle use, though.


8 posted on 01/14/2010 6:36:16 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: george76

Good! I was in the panhandle on Tuesday and the windfarms they have now are cluttering up parts of the landscape.

They offer nothing but higher electric bills.


9 posted on 01/14/2010 6:37:02 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: TStro

I remember a story a year or so back about Pickens stealing a concrete pad he wrote his name on as a child.

The owner came home and found that someone had come in a dug up the concrete pad and took it with them. Seems Pickens decided that since his family had once owned the property and it had his name on it, he was free to take it.


10 posted on 01/14/2010 6:37:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Kansas58
Pickens' scam with the wind/electric generation, as I understand it was to participate in the distribution right-of-ways to transport water, as he owns abundant water rights in West Texas. In addition, I think he envisioned running fiber obtics in these right-of-ways. In reality, this never ever had anything to do with the production of electricity. By the way, I just saw him on an advertisement tonight, during the Rieley Show, promoting the production and use of natural gas. He has a good helping of that also, but at least he is leading in the right direction with this effort. Cheers.
11 posted on 01/14/2010 6:37:15 PM PST by HMBillson (It don't take a genius to spot a goat in a flock of sheep.)
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To: george76

good. get lost pickens with your giant ugly ass inefficient windmills.


12 posted on 01/14/2010 6:39:39 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: george76

1000 MW times 0.25 useful load factor times an optimistic 20 years times 8760 hours in a year is 44 million MWh or 44 billion kWh. Divide the 2 billion dollars makes 4.5 cents per kWh. That cost is fairly low but doesn’t count infrastructure or take into account failure.


13 posted on 01/14/2010 6:39:41 PM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: cripplecreek

I always thought that T. Boone Pickens was brilliant, he made billions out of oil....suddenly he seems dumber than a box of rocks....lets not drill for oil, lets build a windmill....let’s not use nuclear power plants, God will send enough wind to take care of us....

hypotheticaly..if the wind doesn’t blow particularly hard in an area, wouldn’t it be necessary to have a power plant ready and able to take over immediate production of electricity??? If the power plant is there, fueled, manned and capable....why do we need the windmill??

I recently read an article that stated, and showed evidence for, the fact that under the U.S. territory, there was more oil and natural gas than in the entire middle east combined.....let’s go get it and stop shipping money to those who want to kill us.


14 posted on 01/14/2010 6:44:20 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but interested and informed)
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To: palmer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmM3KQnFmXs


15 posted on 01/14/2010 6:45:07 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TStro
I totally agree with you, TStro. My son lives in Pampa, a town that is depressed and has been since the oil fields went belly up...Pickens bought up all the wind leases around there, plus gas, plus built his magificant ranch of thousands of landscaped acres and when all the people were spending money getting geared up for the wind farms, he backs out leaving them all in the dust. He is a snake in the grass.
16 posted on 01/14/2010 7:09:17 PM PST by native texan ("don't tread on me")
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To: Brett66

***They offer nothing but higher electric bills.***

But doesn’t it make you FEEL GOOD knowing some poor elderly widow on Social Security will pay more for her electric bill in order to make you feel good?;-)


17 posted on 01/14/2010 7:14:41 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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To: TStro

***Pickens is a shyster.***

He also sold off a large ammout of the water rights to the Ogalala Aquifer, not for irrigation, but for the cities.


18 posted on 01/14/2010 7:17:23 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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To: terycarl

Case in point-

From the Houston Biz Journal

Calpine Corp. has agreed to provide the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power with wind integration services.

Financial terms of the agreement were not disclosed.

As per the short-term deal, Houston-based Calpine (NYSE: CPN) will provide up to 270 megawatts of firm power.

The company will utilize its natural gas-fired facility, Hermiston Power Project, located in Hermiston, Ore., as well as its contracted transmission resources in the Northwest to integrate the energy output it will purchase from the Windy Point Wind Farm in Klickitat County, Wash


19 posted on 01/14/2010 8:32:25 PM PST by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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