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After a Day of Deliveries, US Ship Runs Out of Aid (Carl Vinson in Haiti becalmed by bureaucracy)
AFP ^ | Saturday, January 16, 2010 | Daphne Benoit

Posted on 01/16/2010 6:06:39 AM PST by kristinn

ABOARD THE USS CARL VINSON — Helicopters sit ready to go from this US aircraft carrier off Haiti, but there's a problem: after a day of frantic aid runs there is simply nothing left to deliver.

Aboard the warship some 3,500 US military personnel have been coordinating the flights of 19 US helicopters carrying aid since early morning.

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In less than 12 hours, helicopters from the USS Carl Vinson made some 20 trips to scout the ravaged landscape and deliver items that were originally intended for the ship's crew.

Among the supplies dropped off were thousands of bottles of water and energy drinks, 8,000 sheets and hundreds of camp beds.

Dozens of hospital beds have been arranged on board the ship to accomadate those injured in the quake, including a US citizen evacuated from the US embassy in Port-au-Prince.

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The relief work also faces logistical and coordination challenges, according to Rear Admiral Ted Branch, the most senior military official aboard the USS Carl Vinson.

"We have lift, we have communications, we have some command and control, but we don't have much relief supplies to offer," said Branch, who commands the battle group led by the nuclear-powered Carl Vinson.

"We have no supplies at the airport that we have access to. There are other supplies there that are under the control of other agencies, other organizations and we haven't yet coordinated together to make those supplies available for anyone to deliver," he added.

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The commander noted that some supplies remain at the airport, and could easily be delivered by US helicopters.

"The problem is, some people are perhaps not ready to release their stuff to the most efficient transportation makers and want to deliver supplies themselves."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: haiti; haitiearthquake; haitirelief; humanitarianrelief; sailors; usnavy; usscarlvinson
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To: kristinn
To my mind, this is the usual situation with an emergency scramble. The great thing about a ship like the Vinson is that it is multi-mission and a functioning US CONTROLLED airport with little chance of a roving gang shutting it down.

Second, these ships are designed for mid-ocean resupply from US Navy cargo shipping. With Haiti's port out of commission, this makes the Vinson the singular resource for 'heavy supply' while the port gets reconstructed (Sea Bees / Construction Battalion are probably already working there). I would be totally surprised if multiple USN provision ships were not being supplied to shuttle to the Vinson as rapidly as possible.

81 posted on 01/16/2010 8:09:31 AM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: mosesdapoet

I’m curious as to why a C-5A couldn’t be turned into a huge flying fully-equpped hospital. Just wondering.


82 posted on 01/16/2010 8:10:30 AM PST by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: kristinn

Our magnificent military - ready, willing, and able ... and thwarted by ngo’s and go’s.


83 posted on 01/16/2010 8:11:12 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("'Diversity' is one of those words designed to absolve you of the need to think." Mark Steyn)
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To: TigersEye

I don’t claim to be a genius in these matters, but I do have some ‘common sense’ ideas I’d like to offer. I’m sure my fellow Freepers will point out where I’m wrong, and I have no problem with that. That’s why I come here - for intelligent debate.

I think we should set up “tent cities” and move the survivors to an area that is “protectable”.

It would make distribution of supplies work better, and keep roving gangs from taking complete control.


84 posted on 01/16/2010 8:11:26 AM PST by airborne
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To: PIF
The number of casualties is not going to change the realities on the ground for the relief efforts.

Certainly not. Well, other than the fact that the more that die, the less that need care.

But the sheer magnitude of the casualties should motivate those NGO's who are withholding supplies to come together with a plan, and then act quickly and decisively.

85 posted on 01/16/2010 8:16:25 AM PST by airborne
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To: airborne
I think you're right. Someone else said pretty much the same thing. It was his opinion that they have blocked the survivors into Port-au-Prince when they could have moved them into clear areas to the east and north.

That makes sense. The city should be evacuated for security and disease prevention. Emergency workers only in there.

86 posted on 01/16/2010 8:20:32 AM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: mewzilla

yes.


87 posted on 01/16/2010 8:26:32 AM PST by graceisfree (...and these Three are One!)
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To: kristinn

..but will the presstitutes make this Obama’s Katrina? Bashing him likke they did G.W.?


88 posted on 01/16/2010 8:33:12 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: atc23
There is no reason why the US merchant fleet cannot deliver aid. This administration then could claim some job growth as merchant operators would need to hire seaman, stevadores, engineers etc. The US fleet is supposed to be on patrol and doing combat readiness training. That is what we're paying them for.

Who's going to do the offloading in Haiti? If you let Haitians near your merchant ship, expect it to be hijacked. Expect your crew to be in real danger of being murdered on their own deck.
89 posted on 01/16/2010 8:39:56 AM PST by Cheburashka (It's a _happy_ Russian novel. Everybody still dies, but everybody dies happy.)
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To: mewzilla
I wanna know who's pulling that BS.

There are major aid bureaucracies - the UN and others. Each one wants to be able to boast, “We transported X tons of vital supplies to needy “_____”(fill in the blank). It's mandatory to be able to solicit for more funds for future work. "Giving supplies to the U.S. Navy? How can we boast about that? Our donors will find someone else to give contributions to if we don't do the deliveries ourselves." Sad but true.
90 posted on 01/16/2010 8:46:45 AM PST by Cheburashka (It's a _happy_ Russian novel. Everybody still dies, but everybody dies happy.)
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To: atc23
The US fleet is supposed to be on patrol and doing combat readiness training. That is what we're paying them for.

That is precisely why they are able to respond more quickly than civilian agencies.

91 posted on 01/16/2010 8:47:25 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: conservativehusker

Slick just needs a break from “changin his luck” with those Hateee girls.


92 posted on 01/16/2010 8:51:43 AM PST by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: Amos the Prophet
They will storm the airport and distribute the goods themselves.

could well happen ... what we ought to do is to air drop food/water supplies on a wide perimter around the outskirts of port au prince causing the mobs to spread out and get away from the airport.

93 posted on 01/16/2010 9:03:05 AM PST by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: PIF
Except that (according to news reports) the only working airport in Haiti is already over capacity - even USAF has problems landing with the hords of private planes from everywere landing and taking off. There appears to be no coordinating authority with the relief efforts. Since there is no functioning Haitian government, no one can grant that authority.

Well, then send in some Seebees and US Army COE's and build another airfield. It can't be that hard to do...

94 posted on 01/16/2010 9:05:50 AM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: PAR35

100115-N-6006S-070 PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (Jan. 15, 2010) Haitian citizens move toward an MH-53E Sea Dragon helicopter carrying food and supplies. The aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) and Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 17 are conducting humanitarian and disaster relief operations in Haiti in response to the Jan. 12, 2010 earthquake disaster. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Aaron Shelley/Released)

95 posted on 01/16/2010 9:06:14 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: PIF

Everyone needs to be given a landing slot hours in advance and if you miss it, you go home.


96 posted on 01/16/2010 9:22:03 AM PST by gura (R-MO)
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To: cripplecreek

Odd that you post this when up the thread there is a comment which recounts Bush’s response to the tsunami. It is my clear memory that the Euroweenies criticized US forces for responding so rapdly. You may be referring to the Big Lie that Bush responded poorly to Katririna. I like to repeat the overlooked non-propaganda fact that the US Coast Guard saved 30000 Americans. So what if the FEMa trailers were twenty hours late?


97 posted on 01/16/2010 9:41:58 AM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: TheRightGuy
... what we ought to do is to air drop food/water supplies on a wide perimter around the outskirts of port au prince causing the mobs to spread out and get away from the airport.

Your idea has more merit than most I've seen. It's beginning to appear that we can't get enough security in place to stop the gangsterism fast enough to get the food, water, and basic necessities to the needy.

Better to inundate the countryside outside of Port-Au-Prince with airdropped supplies. Let the gangs take what they want. The concept is to drop so much that the needy get what they need, despite the gangs.

Great idea, TRG.

98 posted on 01/16/2010 9:48:28 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: gura; Thunder90

Great idea - I’ll get right on it :) Really there seems to be quite a bit of diplomatic crap involved with a number of planes - they seem to have their own way - they wanna land, you try to stop them for what ever reason: result = major incident.

Thunder90
Earlier post seems to say Seabees are already at work. Don’t know how long it will take, but the port is not likely to be operational for some time. When it is open enough to get the heavy equipment needed right now, it will be too late for what they are needed for at the moment - like moving rubble etc to find those still living.

Sad all around, but looks like we’ll have a new crop of Haitian votes for the next 18 months, as current Haitian illegals are being given all the perks of citizenship - including drivers licences, which will no doubt be use to vote for Dems in the next election.


99 posted on 01/16/2010 9:50:01 AM PST by PIF
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To: kristinn

They are surrounded by the ocean for goodness sake. Don’t they know how to fish?


100 posted on 01/16/2010 10:29:08 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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