Lazy, arrogant cowards: how English saw French in 12th century

The Telegraph ^ | 1/17/2010 | Jonathan Wynne-Jones

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

*** And I say that with a very trace of amount British ancestry in my bloodline, according to my father. Mostly Scottish.***

What was it Edward Gibbon said about the land of the Picts and Scotts north of Hadiran’s Wall? ;-)

[Winniesboy]

Sorry, wrong. They beat Austria in 1859, Russia in the Crimea (more forces in the Crimea were French than English), and the First World War is a French victory.

Worth remembering that - in particular Verdun; where, at enormous cost, the French successfully withstood the most powerful assault in the history of warfare up to that time.

[dfwgator]

[justa-hairyape]

Worth remembering that - in particular Verdun; where, at enormous cost, the French successfully withstood the most powerful assault in the history of warfare up to that time.

And if it was not for Charles Martel, Western Europe would have been Islam a long time ago. Some of my surname Scottish ancestors were convicted of treason by the English. A couple for conspiring with the French. Back then, the Scottish Guards were an elite unit guarding the French King.

[justa-hairyape]

What was it Edward Gibbon said about the land of the Picts and Scotts north of Hadiran’s Wall? ;-)

Here is a link to his chapter about the Picts and Scotts from The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire. Don't know exactly what you are referring too ? Perhaps a quote outside this work ?

Link

[justa-hairyape]

Sorry - The above link is from his book The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, vol. 4

[I Buried My Guns]

"...Back then, the Scottish Guards were an elite unit guarding the French King..."

When I went to Scotland for a family reunion I was excited for several reasons*, but the cuisine was not one of them.

It turns out that Scottish food is pretty good and has a big French component (cream sauces, for instance); one of the reasons is the cultural diffusion between the two countries: Back in the olden days when they had a common enemy, there was much traffic and diplomacy between them.

[Rebelbase]

“The English had problems with all their neighbors. That was the nature of Kingdoms back then”

To hear it from a friend of mine that’s the way it is in a lot of gated retirement communities down in Florida.

[Rebelbase]

"Worth remembering that - in particular Verdun; where, at enormous cost, the French successfully withstood the most powerful assault in the history of warfare up to that time."

French Fort Douaumont on the Verdun line. The walls of the fort are almost a mile across from each other.

...
........Before the battle........................................................................After the battle.

Gives the term "waffle" a new meaning.

[justa-hairyape]

The one time I visited England, could not make it up to Scotland, had a great lunch in a English Pub in central England. Ordered the Scottish Salmon Salad, I think it was called. Very nice and the English ale went with it very well. The worse thing I had was a boxed lunch. There was a meat paste sandwich that was very interesting. Worse then spam. Saw a food vendor in London one night outside a pub that was selling sausage on the street. Had no idea what kinda meat it was and did not sample it. The low end scale food in the region is pretty bad, but if you can afford the good stuff, it is very good. The Kings and Queens eat very well. There is a famous food dish that comes from a home my surname ancestors held in Scotland for a long time. Apparently it was also a favorite of the Queen. She spent some time as a child in the area. Might try making it someday, but I am a terrible cook.

[justa-hairyape]

Reminds me of those Seinfeld shows where Kramer retires down in Florida.

[Winniesboy]

The Kings and Queens eat very well.

As do most of us these days, I'm happy to assure you. If I had a bit more time, I might give you a sample week's menus for my home cooking here in south-west England. You might be surprised.

[rrrod]

Oh I thought this was about the RNC/GOP DC elites and the Republican “leadership”.....

[justa-hairyape]

When I was flying into London from Los Angeles, an older English gentleman was seated next to me. He had just spent a few weeks on vacation driving a rental car all over the southwest US visiting airplane museums. He was interesting in old World War II planes. Any way, he wanted to know what part of England I would be visiting on my first trip. Told him I would be traveling and visiting London and the Leicester area. He told me that those areas were not really England and I should really see the southwest area of England.