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Jack Bauer’s Loneley Crusade Continues
David Horowitz's NewsRealblog ^ | Rick Moran

Posted on 01/18/2010 2:40:23 PM PST by Michael van der Galien

Jack is back! The eighth season of 24 got underway last night and promises the usual chills and thrills for fans of the long running drama.

But it is the character of Jack Bauer that fascinates us – has fascinated America – in that the changes undergone by Bauer in the previous seven incarnations of the show have mirrored our own conflicts and doubts that have arisen since the debut of the show a few weeks before 9/11/01.

Jack Bauer, is one of the most consequential fictional characters ever created for dramatic television. He has been the subject of numerous cover stories and articles in Time, Newsweek, and other news magazines, while being featured in long articles for publications as diverse as The New Yorker, and Mother Jones. He has even been the topic of scholarly dissertations and was used as a subject for a Heritage Foundation symposium.

If that weren’t enough, Bauer may very well be the only fictional character ever accused of inspiring war crimes. Indeed, the US army’s professional interrogators were so concerned about Bauer’s impact on their men that they sent a high level delegation to the set of 24 last year, pleading with the producers and writers to portray the results of physical torture more realistically. Their point; that torture doesn’t work, but that Bauer’s continued successful utilization of the tactic was having a bad affect on their men:

The third expert at the meeting was Tony Lagouranis, a former Army interrogator in the war in Iraq. He told the show’s staff that DVDs of shows such as 24 circulate widely among soldiers stationed in Iraq. Lagouranis said to me, “People watch the shows, and then walk into the interrogation booths and do the same things they’ve just seen.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsrealblog.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 24; hollywood; moviereview
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1 posted on 01/18/2010 2:40:24 PM PST by Michael van der Galien
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Hope the troops can imitate Jack in shooting a padlock off the door at twenty feet with a hand gun.

Heck I'll settle for them shooting a couple of Islamic terrorist with one bullet to save metal for the environment, kind of our troops version of going green.

2 posted on 01/18/2010 2:45:45 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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There are two hypotheses floating about ~ one is that TORTURE WORKS and the other is that TORTURE DOESN'T WORK.

Seems to me that both can be tested simultaneously in double-blind format to see if either thesis is true, or false, or if both are true, or both are false.

We need REAL PRISONERS to make this work though, and while the boys down at GITMO are waiting for transfer to a frozen hellhole in Northern Illinois, they'd be suitibly employed working this one out.

3 posted on 01/18/2010 2:46:25 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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“People watch the shows, and then walk into the interrogation booths and do the same things they’ve just seen."

yeah... so what? that's a bad thing? ;)

4 posted on 01/18/2010 2:48:26 PM PST by robomatik (III %)
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“People watch the shows, and then walk into the interrogation booths and do the same things they’ve just seen."

Maybe I am just dense or my interpretation of the article is off, but I am having a hard time seeing a problem here. Is there a problem here?
5 posted on 01/18/2010 2:53:05 PM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: Michael van der Galien
24 is back and I ❤ Chloe

But not as much as Rush :)
6 posted on 01/18/2010 2:53:57 PM PST by ari-freedom (Massachusetts isn't red or blue. It is Brown.)
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You didn't tell me this was going to be a kissing thread.


7 posted on 01/18/2010 3:02:42 PM PST by paulycy (The Liberals' DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE CRIMES.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

The hell it doesn’t work!

I had a spook tell me in the early 1990s that Saddam Hussein had the most airtight counter-intelligence in the world...far tougher to penetrate than the Russkies or Chicoms. He said, “If anyone looks the slightest bit suspicious, he goes on the rack ASAP. Saddam is willing to kill 20 innocents to get one real spy. We recruit Iraqis all the time, but Saddam kills them before we can make the first payment”.


8 posted on 01/18/2010 3:03:11 PM PST by darth
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9 posted on 01/18/2010 3:08:51 PM PST by TexasCajun
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24 just isn’t what it used to be.


10 posted on 01/18/2010 3:09:19 PM PST by freemike (John Adams-Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker)
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Not it isn't.

Like last year, the bad guys were a US BlackWater type organization attempting to overthrow the US government.

11 posted on 01/18/2010 3:15:07 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: freemike

Jack Bauer.... (yawn)....


12 posted on 01/18/2010 3:24:31 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: Michael van der Galien

I quit watching ‘24’ after an episode last year where Jack was so damned worried about racial profiling.


13 posted on 01/18/2010 3:25:49 PM PST by RetSignman (Townhalls ..."We have seen the Patriots and they are us")
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To: A CA Guy
Hope the troops can imitate Jack in shooting a padlock off the door at twenty feet with a hand gun.

LOL I saw that. In the middle of a fire fight to boot He's pretty handy with a fire ax as well.
14 posted on 01/18/2010 3:26:36 PM PST by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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Just how did Jack survive the deadly nerve gas he consumed? He looks good after dying, being a heroin addict, burned, tortured, shot ( many times), mentally destroyed by the Chinese and he never seems to eat.


15 posted on 01/18/2010 3:32:24 PM PST by jetson
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no problem here! in fact i would encourage it.


16 posted on 01/18/2010 3:33:36 PM PST by robomatik (III %)
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To: paulycy

LOL


17 posted on 01/18/2010 3:57:59 PM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a ObamaCare--or lose reelection)
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You were asking ...

Just how did Jack survive the deadly nerve gas he consumed?

The last show of last season showed that. It was his daughter that was involved in some treatment where it was experimental and was possibly dangerous to her, but she went ahead and did it. I don't recall that they explained the treatment that much, at any rate. That's how it ended, with her going through the procedure that helped her dad.

18 posted on 01/18/2010 4:09:53 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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I didn’t watch the first six seasons and so I caught up and then watched the rest. After being able to watch them one right after the other, I’m not going to like watching them one at a time, week-by-week... :-)


19 posted on 01/18/2010 4:11:44 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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20 posted on 01/18/2010 4:59:41 PM PST by KeyLargo
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