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Obama Cuts Deal that Will Reduce Social Security, Medicare and all Entitlements (surrender?)
Baltimore Chronicle ^ | 1/20/10 | James Ridgeway

Posted on 01/21/2010 6:12:29 AM PST by Libloather

Obama Cuts Deal that Will Reduce Social Security, Medicare and all Entitlements
by James Ridgeway
20 January 2010

The Obama administration literally collapsed yesterday. Any pretense of liberal change was washed away in a closed door deal to cut entitlements. While the Massachusetts voters were casting their ballots to install the upstart Republican Scott Brown to Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat, President Obama was hammering out an agreement with Democratic leaders to support a plan to issue an executive order to cut entitlements, including Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

The effect of this plan, if accepted by Congress, will be to override the already weakened health care reform legislation.

It represents a capitulation to conservatives in both parties, and would leave Democratic liberals accepting unconditional surrender not only on health care, but on the most basic of all New Deal programs. It reaches far beyond actions by the Reagan and Bush administration.

As the Washington Post explains this morning:

Under the agreement, President Obama would issue an executive order to create an 18-member panel that would be granted broad authority to propose changes in the tax code and in the massive federal entitlement programs — including Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security — that threaten to drive the nation’s debt to levels not seen since World War II.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimorechronicle.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho44; bhosotu; democrats; medicare; obama; rats; socialsecurity
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To: Daisyjane69

Could you elaborate?


41 posted on 01/21/2010 6:50:43 AM PST by maggief
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To: Reagan69

We have done it to ourselves.

We kept voting in politicians promising government can do the fish and loves trick if we would only vote for them. It works until the bubbles pop.


42 posted on 01/21/2010 6:54:07 AM PST by listenhillary (FU Cass Sunstein - You are the embodiment of evil)
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To: Libloather
There's MORE!

This is DOD bill I think, not obamacare.

Makes little difference as it is a health care issue.

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

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This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

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November 6, 2009 | Rep Buyer abd Rep McKeon

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm Link

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

43 posted on 01/21/2010 6:54:54 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: maggief

Dick Morris has been saying for a year that Obama will “gut” the established entitlements (SS and Medicare) in favor of benefits for illegal immigrants.

The seniors who rely (and have PAID for) Social Security and Medicare are of no use to Obama. Remember, he’s never had to deal with senior citizen parents, like most of us have.

Illegals turned into voting citizens allow Obama to CHANGE the electorate. He knows we’re pissed and he’s screwed with them. Amnesty gives him the chance to change the angry electorate, adding voters more “grateful” to HIM.

Morris has predicted this for a year; I believe it’s even in his book.


44 posted on 01/21/2010 6:56:21 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: ModelBreaker

SS and medicare would be solvent if the government would just curtail its pork barrel spending and massive money giveaway to agencies, programs and foreign interests that do not benefit America.

To cut and reduce SS for seniors in any election year would be the kiss of death for those who support it.


45 posted on 01/21/2010 6:57:11 AM PST by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: Libloather
NO COLAS for several years, this includes retired Military, disabled Vets, the disabled as well as senior citizens

A trip to the grocery store Tuesday saw cost of food skyrocketing again.

http://seniorjournal.com/NEWS/SocialSecurity/2009/20090629-SenCitMayNotGet.htm

Report: Bill would reduce senior care Medicare cuts approved by House may affect access to providers

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/14/AR2009111402597.html

Unions Cut Special Deal on Health Taxes (Healthcare cost for seniors going up to pay for unions)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704281204575003040695279432.html

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=517004 Mayo clinic

Weighing Medical Costs of End-of-Life Care (Money, Death Panels and The Duty to Die)

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/health/23ucla.html?_r=1&ref=business&pagewanted=all

Seniors' coverage options dwindle as Medicare Advantage programs close shop

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-advantage_22bus.ART.State.Edition1.3c912a9.html

Screwing the Seniors? AARP to Make Millions Off of Obamacare

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/10/screwing-seniors-aarp-to-make-millions.html

46 posted on 01/21/2010 6:58:04 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Daisyjane69

It is too bad we have had previous presidents establish the policy of granting amnesty in the past.

With the unemployment situation, Obama might find a bit more resistance than the last attempt of amnesty by Bush.


47 posted on 01/21/2010 7:00:52 AM PST by listenhillary (FU Cass Sunstein - You are the embodiment of evil)
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To: Kakaze

Constitutionally speaking, all tax legislation MUST begin in the HOUSE, not the White House either.


48 posted on 01/21/2010 7:02:34 AM PST by Mouton
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To: Libloather
President Obama was hammering out an agreement with Democratic leaders to support a plan to issue an executive order to cut entitlements, including Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

Excellent news, if true. Big if.

49 posted on 01/21/2010 7:02:40 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Daisyjane69

Thanks. I haven’t been following him.


50 posted on 01/21/2010 7:03:05 AM PST by maggief
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To: cvq3842

Bush did try reining in Social Security, somewhat, and got lambasted by the dems for trying it. I think Pelousy said she was not going to stand by and let Bush take credit for saving social security. How is that for bipartisanship revisited.


51 posted on 01/21/2010 7:04:19 AM PST by Mouton
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To: Daisyjane69

The problem with that is there are WAY more senior citizens collecting SS than there are illegals, and seniors vote at a much higher rate than newly-made legals would. Obowma and anyone else behind that would get crushed.


52 posted on 01/21/2010 7:04:24 AM PST by green iguana
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To: Daisyjane69

“Dick Morris has been saying for a year that Obama will “gut” the established entitlements (SS and Medicare) in favor of benefits for illegal immigrants....”

sure. the seniors won’t vote for them anyway...they’ll import enough illegals who will!!!


53 posted on 01/21/2010 7:04:38 AM PST by mo
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To: Libloather

If it’s not one thing, it’s another. This man is evil.


54 posted on 01/21/2010 7:05:18 AM PST by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: Libloather

State of the Union Show = President I-bama


55 posted on 01/21/2010 7:10:39 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: green iguana

darlin, I think this asshat would legalize every single warm body he could, in order to outweigh our seniors. Seriously.

I think he is THAT evil. I really do.


56 posted on 01/21/2010 7:10:39 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: paulycy
The commission would deliver its recommendations after this fall’s congressional elections, . . .

Wonder what that means.

57 posted on 01/21/2010 7:14:17 AM PST by sportutegrl (I was for Sarah Palin before being for Sarah was cool.)
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To: sportutegrl
Wonder what that means.

It means the fix is in. This is disturbing.

58 posted on 01/21/2010 7:15:44 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: Mouton
Constitutionally speaking, all tax legislation MUST begin in the HOUSE, not the White House either.

...and those educated enough to know that, with the balls to fight it?

I just don't know, I fear many will embrace this, too many.

59 posted on 01/21/2010 7:18:05 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Daisyjane69

No doubt there. Warm and not-so-warm.


60 posted on 01/21/2010 7:19:51 AM PST by green iguana
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