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It's Reconciliation! (Pelosi to use "nuclear option"
NY Daily News ^ | 1/21/10 | Mcaulif

Posted on 01/21/2010 12:42:19 PM PST by pabianice

A well-informed source tells The Mouth Nancy Pelosi is set to announce the House will go the reconciliation route on health care reform.

Of course, that means using a budgetary procedure that requires a simple majority to pass.

It’s still unclear to us precisely what that means would be passed, but possibilities would be creating a national health care exchange and expanding Medicare or Medicaid coverage.

Democrats are caucusing now, so stay tuned.

Update: A second source confirms that Pelosi is presenting a reconciliation plan to the caucus, and making sure they go with something that can actually pass.

Separately, she is meeting with Harry Reid today.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/2010/01/its-reconciliation.html#ixzz0dHWS30CN


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; democrats; healthcare; liberalfascism; nuclearoption; obamacare; pelosi
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To: pabianice

Setting a precedent that they will regret.

We’d be in our eighth year of ANWR drilling if this had been in force before.


61 posted on 01/21/2010 1:17:19 PM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: pabianice

Setting a precedent that they will regret.

We’d be in our eighth year of ANWR drilling if this had been in force before.


62 posted on 01/21/2010 1:17:22 PM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: pabianice

Hey Dems,

Keep your laws off my BODY!


63 posted on 01/21/2010 1:18:12 PM PST by CSM (The only reason a conservative should reach across the aisle is to slap a little sense into a lib!)
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To: Red Steel

Man, I can’t wait till November. I’d give up my summer to get rid of that woman.

I have to remember, good things come to those who wait... .


64 posted on 01/21/2010 1:19:19 PM PST by hoe_cake (a state of limerent consciousness)
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To: freekitty

Comparing her to pigs is not very nice to pigs.


65 posted on 01/21/2010 1:21:42 PM PST by jarofants
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To: pabianice
Reconciliation generally involves legislation that changes the budget deficit (or conceivably, the surplus). The "Byrd Rule" (2 U.S.C. § 644, named after Democratic Senator Robert Byrd) was adopted in 1985 and amended in 1990 to outline which provisions reconciliation can and cannot be used for. The Byrd Rule defines a provision to be "extraneous" (and therefore ineligible for reconciliation) in six cases:
  1. if it does not produce a change in outlays or revenues;
  2. if it produces an outlay increase or revenue decrease when the instructed committee is not in compliance with its instructions;
  3. if it is outside the jurisdiction of the committee that submitted the title or provision for inclusion in the reconciliation measure;
  4. if it produces a change in outlays or revenues which is merely incidental to the non-budgetary components of the provision;
  5. if it would increase the deficit for a fiscal year beyond those covered by the reconciliation measure, though the provisions in question may receive an exception if they in total in a Title of the measure net to a reduction in the deficit; and
  6. if it recommends changes in Social Security.

Any Senator may raise a procedural objection to a provision believed to be extraneous, which will then be ruled on by the presiding Senator. A vote of 60 Senators is required to overturn the ruling.

66 posted on 01/21/2010 1:22:15 PM PST by j_guru
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To: luv2ndamend
“Here is what Rep Weiner (D) said about it.
Caution, language!”

Egad. What they feel comfortable saying in front of camera really leads me to wonder what they say behind the camera. Truly sad this is state of “leadership” in this country. Foul mouthed brats.

67 posted on 01/21/2010 1:23:33 PM PST by Gabrial (ObamaCare: The efficiency of the Post Office, the compassion of the IRS, the costs of the Pentagon)
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To: pabianice

She doesn’t have the votes in the House to pass it.


68 posted on 01/21/2010 1:24:23 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: trad_anglican

I think it is the supplement to the existing Senate bill, that Nancy is putting together, that will be called the reconcilation bill.


69 posted on 01/21/2010 1:25:12 PM PST by rawhide
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To: submarinerswife
"Can someone explain (in plain terms) what reconciliation in the house would mean?"

For this particular bill, the House and the Senate would adopt rules that have been pre-defined in the Congressional Budget Act of 1974. These rules limit - with great specificity - precisely what kind of budget bills may be passed under these limited debate and amendment rules - rules that also do away with the filibuster in the Senate.

The Budget Reconciliation process is used with some frequency, but it's never used for bills courting such controversy as this health care bill does. If they want to pass health care using Budget Reconciliation, MANY deep and profound changes would need to be made to the House and Senate bills.

Before bills can be passed using Budget Reconciliation, a person(s) called the Congressional Parliamentarian will review the bill and will strike any provision that doesn't meet the guidelines set-forth in the CBA of 1974. House and Senate Parliamentarians are NOT elected members, they are officers of both chambers and are non-partisan. They won't allow any funny business because they aren't beholden to either Dems or Republicans, much like the Sergent-at-Arms.

70 posted on 01/21/2010 1:25:59 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: MozarkDawg; OldDeckHand

I guess reconciliation means 2 diffecrt things. Anyway, I think Pelousy’s threat is empty, or maybe this article pre-dates her recent capitulation.


71 posted on 01/21/2010 1:26:39 PM PST by clintonh8r (Nobody's 'bot!)
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To: gibtx2

You’re right. Everything they do at this point, is pure entertainment.


72 posted on 01/21/2010 1:27:12 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

the progressives are twisting in the wind.... is fun to watch..


73 posted on 01/21/2010 1:28:31 PM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: OldDeckHand
Excellent analysis. I think some people get to nervous at the every utterance of Obama and Pelosi. Nancy will say anything, she is an idiot and has chronic mouth diarrhea. I have a family friend whose daughter is senior staffer on the Hill. Nancy it is well know has beginning Parkinson's and dementia. No joke, she is physical unfit to hold the speakers post and is losing her faculties. Watch her next speech, she will tremor through her meds.
74 posted on 01/21/2010 1:30:47 PM PST by pburgh01
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To: rwfromkansas

They have already told her this pig won’t fly.

The pig flies all the time and we pay for it.


75 posted on 01/21/2010 1:31:51 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: rawhide
"I think it is the supplement to the existing Senate bill, that Nancy is putting together, that will be called the reconcilation bill."

No, the changes that are made to the Senate bill are happening in the Conference Committee. The Conference Committee generates something called the Conference Report. The Conference Report then immediately goes to the House and Senate floors for an up or down vote, respectively. Due to Congressional rules, neither the House nor the Senate may be allowed to offer amendments to the Conference Report - BUT - the Senate rules that allow for the filibuster apply to Conference Reports as well. So, the Report itself CAN be filibustered, unless of course the Senate does away with the filibuster using a parliamentary maneuver known as "the nuclear option".

If the Conference Report is approved by both Houses, then it becomes the reconciled bill that travels to the President for his signature to then become law, or to be vetoed. The use of the root word "reconcile" causes some confusion in similar phrases and words, but with varying definitions and meanings.

76 posted on 01/21/2010 1:31:58 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: MozarkDawg

If they should go the Budget route, the “Health care bill” would be extremely pared down.
I have seen a report on TV, that they may rewrite the health bill to include: Guaranteed issue and no penalties for people who don’t purchase health Insurance.
That would destroy the entire Insurance Industry. Just imagine you could stop by an agent and get Insurance for your procedure on the way to the hospital. After you get out you just stop paying your premiums.
Wit such an insane provision you would also see most Employees drop their Group coverage, why would they pay premiums when they can get coverage when needed?
Just think, with the Insurance companies out of the way, the Government could rescue us with a Health insurance Bailout. Then they could impose any provisions due to that void.
Sometimes I wonder if this isn’t their plan now. Nothing surprises me anymore.
This would be hailed as the great humanitarian Government rescue from those eeeeeeeeeeevil Insurance companies.


77 posted on 01/21/2010 1:33:24 PM PST by americanbychoice3
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To: clintonh8r
"I guess reconciliation means 2 diffecrt things. "

It does kind of mean two different things in this instance. In one respect, it just a verb that describes what goes on in the Conference Committee to every bill in committee. In another instance, it refers to a specific legal process known as Budget Reconciliation that is defined in the Congressional Budget Act of 1974.

78 posted on 01/21/2010 1:34:17 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: InterceptPoint
I doubt they will be able to get a simple majority in the House. Most members will be happy to put this behind them as quickly as possible and try to find ways to distance themselves from the Obama administration.

The may be corrupt lefties, but they are probably reluctant to slit their own throats for the sake of Obama.

79 posted on 01/21/2010 1:35:13 PM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: OldDeckHand
Thank you for the explaination.
80 posted on 01/21/2010 1:47:01 PM PST by submarinerswife (Obama, the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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