(NASA Creates) A U.S. Climategate?

Investors.com ^ | January 22, 2010 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY staff

[raptor22]

Hoaxes: Climate researchers and the Weather Channel's founder accuse NASA of the same data manipulation as Britain's Climate Research Unit. Were weather stations cherry-picked to hide the temperature drop?

We recently commented on how our space agency for two years refused Freedom of Information requests on why it has had to repeatedly correct its climate figures.

In a report on global warming on KUSI television by Weather Channel founder and iconic TV weatherman John Coleman, that reticence has been traced to the deliberate manipulation and distortion of climate data by NASA.

As Coleman noted in a KUSI press release, NASA's two primary climate centers, the National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) in Asheville, N.C., and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies at Columbia University in New York City, are accused of "creating a strong bias toward warmer temperatures through a system that dramatically trimmed the number and cherry-picked the locations of weather observation stations they use to produce the data set on which temperature record reports are based."

[ReyTurner]

I want Nasa closed down. Completely removed. They are complicit prostitutes of fact and welfare babies going nowhere. SHUT IT DOWN!!!

[cogitator]

NASA’s temperature data is now considered fraudulent.

Yeah, by skeptics. This is news? Tell me again, why is the stratosphere cooling off? (There are two reasons.) Why is the lower troposphere warming up at basically the same rate as the surface temperature record? What... D'Aleo, Coleman, and Chiefio didn't mention these things? I wonder why not.

I don’t know what brings so many things to light in the past week.

Herd mentality.

Tell me this: are the phenological indicators of spring in the Northern Hemisphere happening earlier in the calendar year (viewed statistically, of course) or not?

Likewise, are the phenological indicators of winter also occurring later in the calendar year (viewed statistically, of course), or not?

Take your time answering this question. Look up references, discussions, blog postings, whatever. Tell me what you determine.

Then tell me what it means.

Hot Air: Why Don't TV Weathermen believe in climate change?

[justa-hairyape]

Who cares when relatively hairless apes determine when a season ends or starts when wild life is getting killed by the millions ?

Cold inflicted major toll on fish in Florida

Severe cold freezes livestock to death in Mongolia

The one thing we do know now is that ape metrics are literally worthless.

[sergeantdave]

“Hopefully, Law Enforcement Agencies might get interested in following the cash flows into Mr. Hansen’s accounts. “

The entire federal bureaucracy is infested with left wing liars, thieves and ideologues like Hanson. Federal prosecutions will never happen. States need to move against these fascists, charge them and throw them in prison. It’s way past time for states to begin throwing these federal pigs out of their borders.

[lowtaxsmallgov]

“Heidi Cullen, the climate slut, is no longer with the Weather Channel. Hasn’t been for sometime. They still have some bias, but it is no longer an epidemic contagious social disease.”

Yes, she has moved on to spread her malice elsewhere, but she used the Weather Channel as a pulpit to confuse many decent Americans on the climate issue. Did she leave on her own, or did WC fire her and apologize for the damage she did? Do they stand by her, or have they repudiated her? If they have formally repudiated her BS, then I can end my boycott and recommence watching the Weather Channel.

[SteamShovel]

Herd mentality

Which side of the issue had the herd running mindlessly?

[Mike Darancette]

Take your time answering this question. Look up references, discussions, blog postings, whatever. Tell me what you determine.

The Climate alarmists are coming out earlier and earlier each year with their predictions of record hurricanes and that we are in the warmest year in history.

But we shall see what is happening because 2010 is shaping up to be a big El Nino year and has been predicted by British Scientists to be the hottest year in history.

But all this horse manure aside warming (or cooling) temperatures doesn't mean that change is bad or that mankind is responsible.

[SeaWolf]

It’s not that simple.

[junta]

Whats the percentage of manmade CO2 placed into the atmosphere per year?

[justa-hairyape]

But we shall see what is happening because 2010 is shaping up to be a big El Nino year and has been predicted by British Scientists to be the hottest year in history.

It is easy for them to predict what will happen with metrics in the future. They know the metrics are being cooked. So if you know the motives of those cooking the metrics, you know what will happen to them in the future. Would like to see them predict something that actually happens in the real physical world. Not something that only happens within the small crooked minds of men.

BTW - It is not a big El Nino. Only was strong for a couple of weeks. Mostly moderate and fading. Judging by the snow we just had in Southern California (3 inches in Beaumont and Yucaipa), these storms are not El Nino storms. They are coming from higher north and they are dragging some of the El Nino moisture with them.

[opentalk]

bttt

[justa-hairyape]

Just noticed something very interesting in that article on Florida fish deaths that occurred a couple of weeks ago. Check this quote out.

``Based on what I saw in 1977 and 1989, there is a good chance we'll have a second wave,'' said William Loftus, a longtime aquatic ecologist for Everglades National Park.

So the last two times Florida had major fish kills were in 1977 and 1989. Guess what part of the solar cycle those kills occurred within ? Right at the end of the solar minimum.

So the Fish in Florida are better metrics then ape graphs built with crooked data. Been here and done this before. Nature is the most accurate tool out there and apes continue to ignore it at our peril.

[Mike Darancette]

From:
PROGNOSTIC DISCUSSION FOR LONG-LEAD SEASONAL OUTLOOKS NWS CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 830 AM EST THU JAN 21 2010

"STRONG EL NINO CONDITIONS CURRENTLY EXIST IN THE TROPICAL PACIFIC. THIS WARM EVENT IS EXPECTED TO PERSIST (THOUGH GRADUALLY WEAKEN) INTO AT LEAST EARLY BOREAL SPRING 2010, AND IS ANTICIPATED TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE US SURFACE TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION FORECASTS INTO THE APR-MAY-JUN (AMJ) 2010 SEASON. THE IMPACT OF EL NINO ON THE CLIMATE OVER NORTH AMERICA IS USUALLY GREATEST DURING THE LATE WINTER SEASON. MANY PREDICTION TOOLS INDICATE THAT THE EL NINO IS CURRENTLY NEAR ITS MAXIMUM STRENGTH AND WILL DIMINISH SLIGHTLY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. THOUGH SOME MODELS PREDICT THAT THIS WARM EPISODE MAY EXTEND INTO SUMMER, IMPACTS ON THE US TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION FOR LATE SPRING AND BEYOND, HOWEVER, ARE EXPECTED TO BE NEGLIGIBLE."

Here in Rancho Cucamonga (So Cal) it must have rained 10" started out warm but got cold later. And, yes the warmists will blow this all out of proportion .

[justa-hairyape]

That statement is flat out wrong. All equatorial Pacific high temperature anomalies are below 2.6 C positive and most are below 2 C positive. It is moderate. In fact there is a bigger positive temp anomaly in the South Central Pacific. If El Nino is strong, what does that make the South Central Pacific ? The storms are being driven by the strong Jet Stream. Would occur with or without El Nino conditions. The storms are coming from the Central North Pacific which is cold. That is why we had snow in spots at 1,200 feet here along the Rancho Cucamonga foothills last night. Saw it personally. And it was very cold here last night. Don't ever recall being able to see my breath during the last El Nino about 10 years ago.

[Mike Darancette]

Well I have seen worse El Nino maps and that South Pacific temperature anomaly is weird.

I live near Chaffey College at about 1,700' elevation and we didn't get any snow as far as I could tell. The first storms 1/18-1/20 were pretty warm but the storms of 1/21 and 1/22 were a lot colder. I did get some good pictures today of the low snow level which looks to be about 2,500' or so.

I don't understand why the official reports seem to be overstating the weakening El Nino.

[cogitator]

Whats the percentage of manmade CO2 placed into the atmosphere per year?

Sigh.

[cogitator]

But we shall see what is happening because 2010 is shaping up to be a big El Nino year and has been predicted by British Scientists to be the hottest year in history.

It's probably going to be a moderate El Nino year; the current El Nino is probably slightly past peak now and will fade through spring. Whether or not that can push 2010 past 1998 will largely depend on what state the Pacific ends up later in the year -- "normal" vs. an incipient La Nina.

However, the 12-month running average could be interesting with January through March included. Tamino ("Open Mind") has a recent post on this.

[justa-hairyape]

The low snow was further east along the front range. Near to were the range stops. Looked like a localized event. Saw it from the Home Depot over on foothill Blvd at about 5pm on Friday just as the clouds cleared at sunset. The snow line ran along the top of the front range then dived down toward the east on the end. Should have taken a picture. Was probably washed away later by rain. The weather forecasters all blew the snow fall elevation for this last storm. They blew it by at least 1,500 feet, not counting the localized event I witnessed. They were thinking El Nino. We now know that El Nino does not always translate into Global Warming. El Nino is just an indicator of energy transfer mechanisms.

Do not know where that strong warming came from in the South Central Pacific, but basically what happened last winter down there is that the oceans cooled dramatically by the end of the winter. After two big cold spots developed, in the east and west, the hot spot later formed right between them. The cold spots however have remained during the summer time down there and the sun only moderated them slightly. We will now see ocean temps in the upper areas of the Northern Hemisphere cool dramatically, if they follow what happened in the South. Just look at what happened in Scandinavian waters. The US and UK are almost completely surrounded by colder then normal water now. That is ahead of schedule. Was expecting that by the end of winter. So the cooling is accelerating. February will kick everyones but north of the equator.

BTW - All NOAA data is suspect now and they never will gain back trust from me. That is lost forever. But hey, I am just a hairy ape.

[justa-hairyape]

Looks like it is close to the margin of error.

[thecodont]

For what it’s worth: the storms of 1/21-1/22 deposited snow on Mount Diablo (east SF Bay Area, Contra Costa County), elevation 3,849. Saw the snow this afternoon from Walnut Creek.