Posted on 01/24/2010 4:52:57 PM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid
It started out innocently in a conversation with a well-connected Democrat friend who is now-disillusioned Obama voter.
We were discussing the Massachusetts election, and I joked that I didnt know if the Democrats could stand another three years under Obama. He fired back that he and several of his friends didnt know if they could stand ONE more year under Obama.
I posited that the only way it could happen that fast is if you could get him out of office on something like an eligibility issue, and that I couldnt imagine any Democrat would ever become a birther!
There was a silence for a few moments and then he confided that one might surprised at what is being whispered about by disillusioned members at high levels in the party. He cut the conversation off at that point and we reverted back to small talk.
This all sounded so not credible to me, but you can never underestimate the Democrats desire to stay in power. The more I pondered his words, the more intriguing and perhaps terrifying the outcomes became.
Consider this scenario, the Democrats actually let birther investigations to go forward, publicly condemning the Republicans for pushing the issues, while quietly not impeding or even facilitating them . Two outcomes can happen. Obama is proven eligible and the Republicans are embarrassed and fall from public grace. Obama retains power and Democrats regain some public confidence.
Should Obama be removed from office, it becomes the ultimate opportunity to play the race card, because the still-conservative Supreme Court would have to conspire with the "racist" Republicans to force Obamas departure from office. Democrats could swear Obamas innocence, a repeat of the Lewinsky defense, in which Bill Clinton came out more powerful politically. The Democrats could raise the race issue with the Republicans until the end of recorded time for removing the first Black President from office.
At the precipice of their political comeback, the Republicans could fall hard! A Democrat "Rope a Dope"?
Admittedly this is a shameless self post, maybe Im reading more into this than was really there. If you disagree, flame away, pull the post, and tell me to take my meds and go to my room.
I think he meant “elk”.
Laughing here in the office as I finish out my day...and after work, I’m going to the Elks Club, of course.
Awesome!
It doesn’t feel real comforting to be in such uncharted waters. Kind of like leaving the shore without knowing where you are going. Seems like everyone has an opinion on this matter but no one seems to know for sure. I am believing what people I trust have told me. And that is that the Supreme Court has no authority to impeach him and the constitution gives that authority to Congress. But the question remains can he be impeached if he was never a president? If he is impeached or removed, who takes over? I cannot believe that the citizens of this country would allow Biden, Pelosi or Clinton to take over if it is proven they were part of the fraud. Clinton was impeached for lying. What does that say about those found to have committed fraud which, in my book, is much worse than lying.
I think you just have to pick and choose who you believe and apply what is covered in the constitution along with common sense to come to a satisfactory answer until the actual events take place. In the history of our country, we have never been faced with such a massive amount of fraud and the fraud isn’t against one person or company, it is against each and every US citizen. That is a pretty massive fraud. So sad that we find ourselves in this situation, isn’t it!
Good ones for certain. But probably not any better than the Chicago mafia, with all it's left wing academcis in support. Plus they are so dirty themselves that they probably can't use what they have. A dirt based "MAD" situation.
I would be interested in seeing the certificates that were signed by Dean and Biden. I have copies of the certificate that was sent to Hawaii that states he was constitutionally qualified to be president and Biden was qualified to be Vice President and the one sent to the other states where ‘constitutionally qualified’ was removed. In both instances they were signed by Pelosi, Alice Travis Germond (Secretary, Democratic National Convention) and by the notary, Sheila Williams, State of Colorado. No other signatures are on these copies. Wouldn’t surprise me if they had hundreds of those things floating around just to confuse us little guys!!
Some of us are willing to take those chances. If you're not, please stand aside. We'll do the best we can.
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Not one to kill everyone in the village to save it.
My parents watched cities burn in the 1960s. Life went on.
Never assume that we won't win in the end. We will.
I was in a city that was set on fire.
No thank you.
Lots of innocent people were murdered and the rest of the city has never recovered.
Life does not go on.
Right now millions of people are living under a usurper, while the Constitution is pissed on. Trashing the Constitution and allowing a bogus fraud to be in the White House is worse than a bit of speculated violence perpetrated by thugs.
If you think that the potential of violence by thugs is reason to allow the Constitution to be pissed on and a thug fraudster to sit in the White House, doing everything he and his handlers and hirelings can do to destroy our country, I think you’re on the wrong forum.
That's a nuanced point lost on most of us. Surely, this isn't the first time he has brought a teleprompter to school. Why are they suddenly reporting it?
I just came across this fascinating posting of yours in the archives.
I am very curious to learn if you perhaps have any update.
If not, that's okay, but I wanted to alert you that in one of expatguy's postings about the Obama's coming trip to Indonesia, he mentioned that LOTS of NEW information about Barry Soetoro AKA the Prez AKA Barack Obama is about to erupt.
Just in case his prediction comes true, it seems to me you'd like to know about it, in advance.
Many months ago, one of the female AIR AMERICA talk show hosts suddenly started claiming that she believed that the online BC was a forgery and that she was SUPER angry that BHO was obviously not born in America.
I've not been able to find the threads about this on FR, and I don't know if it was Stephanie Miller (????) or if it was Nicole Sandler (????) or some other far fringe left libbie who was simply distraught.
Anyway, LOTS of high level Dems are deeply concerned at the anger displayed by the Far Left and that they've been abandoned by all moderates & independents. So something MAY come forward yet to prove the precise location of the birthplace of BHO and his actual status as a U.S. citizen --- or lack, thereof.
I found this one pretty interesting, and very believable.
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