Posted on 01/28/2010 12:16:12 PM PST by Ben Mugged
A self-proclaimed born-again Christian who believes all abortions are a sin told his trial for murder today that he shot dead an abortion doctor in Wichita, Kansas, to protect unborn children.
Scott Roeder said he had bought a .22-calibre Taurus gun and ammunition on 30 May 2009, the day before he shot George Tiller, and practised target shooting with his brother. Then he checked into a motel in Wichita, and the next day followed Tiller to the church in the town where the doctor was an usher.
His defence lawyer asked: "Did you go and shoot Dr Tiller?"
Roeder replied: "Yes."
His confession is part of his defence that he felt forced to kill in order to save the lives of unborn children. He has pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder.
It is the first time in US legal history that a violent anti-abortionist has been allowed to present the jury with his justification for murder.
The judge in the case, Warren Wilbert, caused dismay among pro-abortionists and doctors this month when he ruled that Roeder would be allowed to present his justification to the court. Wilbert will decide later in the trial in Kansas whether the jury will be permitted to find the defendant guilty of the lesser crime of manslaughter.
Tiller was killed in the Reformation Lutheran church with one shot to the head. He had long been a target for anti-abortionists as he was one of few doctors prepared to perform legal late abortions, after 21 weeks of gestation.
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“He deserves a medal for lifesaving.”
Roeder does not deserve a medal, but rather he deserves the steel bars of a prison cell fir the rest of his life.
Really?
You mean jury trials where the jurors are instructed to apply the law to the facts presented by the court? THOSE jury trials?
If the jury is authorized to operate outside the law then the jury has BECOME the law themselves! Why have elected representatives, debate, legislation, veto power, or, for that matter, a Constitution at all? Legislation by jury is so much more efficient!
If your reasoning is correct, then the supreme authority of the United States of America rests with either 12 jurors, or a single juror in many cases. As long as the juror(s) really, really believe they are right and the law is wrong, then screw the law.
Remember, there are liberal jurors sitting in judgment against conservative defendents all the time. Think LONG and HARD about that, in the context of gun posession, concealed carry and self-defense cases, for example.
As I said before, such a belief is openly hostile to the fundamentals spelled out in the Constitution and would be a pernicious force against justice in the USA if allowed to spread.
| > Third Reich Germany wasn’t a nation of laws, but a nation > beholden to the musings of one psychopathic murder.
I’m not talking legal, I’m talking moral. We're a nation of laws, but those laws are made by flesh and blood men and women. Some of those people have a much more devious intention than others on the topic of Abortion. Since 1973, 1,568,359,019 humans have been killed in the US with the legalization of abortion. That's a hell of a lot more slaughtering than Adolf ever ordered. Sorry to hear you’re okay with that. |
Me neither.
Can't remember when I've seen so many nonsequiturs strung out in one line before! - You have no contact with the real world. Are you an abortion doctor by any chance?
Praying for Scott Roeder, and praying for wisdom for his jury.
BEEP - wrong! You don’t have to have read the book American Terrorist to know that McVeigh’s justification for his bombing was, it was the only way for increasingly powerless citizens to stand up to the federal juggernaut, as he put it.
He surmised the government wouldn’t be impressed by a mere destroyed building they could easily replace, but a high body count of irreplaceable people would leave a mark.
I hear that view reflected in some of these comments justifying 1st degree murder and it is appalling.
And you could kill Roeder and say you were stopping the murder of any doctor or pharmacist . Same defense, same insane argument
I guess you don’t read well, and are logically impaired.
The constitution does not provide for instruction of juries. Juries do sit in judgement first of the law, and second of the defendant. A jury that has been instructed is invalid.
KSM is not entitled to a jury trial under our laws. You already know that, so you are arguing dishonestly.
Your question is unanswerable because it is in no way analogous to this case.
Well, look at it this way, how many “procedures” has Killer Tiller done since ?
No doubt Roeder saved lives of mothers as well as babies by his actions.
Many mothers also died at the hands of the Butcher of Wichita. One was a young retarded woman who had not given consent to the act which took both her life and that of her baby.
Tiller the Killer was a despicable human being. The world is better off without him. Assassinating him was on a par with assassinating Saddam Hussein or Hitler or Charles Manson.
...and remember, Sec. of Health Sebelius was one of his closest friends.
If Kansas law is fully followed, he will be acquitted. (no guarantees though, but the judge seems to be fair)
The constitution does not provide for instruction of juries. Juries do sit in judgement first of the law, and second of the defendant. A jury that has been instructed is invalid.
LOLOLOL!
Wow.
Juries "sit in judgement...of the law"??? Really? Show me THAT one in the Constitution. Odd that it does provide for superior courts to do exactly that: sit in judgment of the law. If that's the jury's job, why would the Constitution provide for superior courts, up to and including the SCOTUS?
You live in a bizarre fantasy world, FRiend. Pray you never sit as a defendant with a jury who shares your beliefs. The sword cuts both ways.
I don’t live in Kansas where the coded law recognizes killing by necessity.
Your comment drips with hatred, and evil as usual.
It sounds like the guy has his head on straight enough to tell the truth.
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What was it Orwell wrote about telling the truth being a revolutionary act in a time of universal deceit? Yeah, that.
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