Posted on 01/28/2010 9:47:54 PM PST by Lancey Howard
From the link you posted:
“Salinger notified the literary world that he was dropping out of public life entirely, giving the reason that personal publicity erodes literary integrity.”
A noble idea in this era when people crave their fifteen minutes of fame.
I did my term paper for English 1A on Lord of the Flies. I loved the symbolism. The book certainly contains strong Calvinist themes. However, I cannot agree that Jesus taught that man evil at the core. Why would God send His 'Only Begotten Son' to suffer for beings evil at the core? How could salvation be possible for humanity?
Original sin doesn't mean 'evil at the core'. Man was made in God's image, fell into error, so God in his infinite love sent a Christ Savior to remind us of who we really are, Sons and Daughters of the Divine.
Sad to hear this (though 91 is certainly a respectable age). I liked CATCHER IN THE RYE, but went through a period where I absolutely *adored* his novella (novellette?), “Raise High the Roofbeams, Carpenters.” I read that thing over and over, just enamored of the language. I may have to dig it out and read it again now!
I've read articles over the years that said that he did keep writing, regularly in fact. It will be interesting to see what happens with those works.
...Provided we REPENT and ACCEPT the free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ.
Faith is necessary, because it gets you through times when mere human effort alone would not suffice. However, Salvation originally had an esoteric meaning, marred over the centuries by ignorance and petty competition among different sects of Christians. Salvation, to the Gnostics and other early Christians, meant what Samadhi means to Hindus; Onesness with the Spirit of God, realizing oneself as Sat, Chit, Ananda (Being, Consciousness and Bliss).
Some trivia regarding “Catcher In The Rye”...John Lennon’s killer was obsessed with this book and had it on him when he shot the ex-Beatle outside his apartment in NYC. The guy who shot Ronald Reagan a few months later was also a big fan of the book. Just find those facts kind of strange...
There it's very clear that Jesus Himself believed people to be under God's wrath unless they were "born again" in Him.
Not everyone has forgiveness from evil.
Zooey (posing as Seymour) tells Franny that Jesus is the fat lady. Sounds an awful lot like doing to the least of these is doing to Him. I would definitely say he knew the Lord.
Maybe you’re thinking of Pierre Salinger?
OK, so what did HE write?
Nope, you're not alone. At least I don't remember reading it.......LOL!
CATCHER was actually banned in my HS (late 70’s, smalltown Texas). My junior year English teacher kept a copy under his desk that he allowed students to borrow on an informal basis, but it didn’t have his name in it and I bet he would have denied it belonged to him if asked.
“an irrelevant libtard icon”
What are you talking about? CITR pops on lists of Best Conservative Novels of all time. Salinger was a very spirtual and often outwardly Christian writer.
You even read those interminable late period Heinlein novels like ‘Time Enough For Love’?
“Why would God send His ‘Only Begotten Son’ to suffer for beings evil at the core?”
Jesus said, talking to the common people, “You, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children ...” He wasn’t addressing the Pharisees in that passage but everyday folk, fishermen, housewives, farmers, craftsmen, etc. Sin is evil and we are all sinners. Hence we are all evil at our core.
Yes we were created originally in God’s image and fell into sin and when we did that we LOST God’s image. That’s why Jesus said to Nicodemus “Ye must be born again.” A transformation happens in the Spiritual re-birth when you trust Jesus Christ as your Savior. You gain back God’s image that man lost when he sinned against God.
That’s why good works alone does not give anyone salvation. It’s faith, becoming born again in the Spirit, the Spiritual circumcision of the heart.
Actually, no. I should have said I read everything Heinlein had in print while I was growing up, up until about 1971 when I was a freshman in college. I know he kept coming out with novels after that but by then I was reading other stuff.
By the way, one novel that bored me was ‘Stranger in a Strange Land’. It’s ironic that that was the book that gave Heinlein his mainstream cred, and I could never figure it out. My suspicion was that the book was sci-fi with (at least a little) sex, and that really hadn’t been done before.
I do remember that the title - - ‘Time Enough for Love’ - - rolled my eyes and I wondered if it was another ‘Stranger’. I believe ‘I Will Fear No Evil’ was the last Heinlein book I read.
FRegards,
LH
This is a non-sequitur. It would be just as reasonable to say "Virtue is good, and we all do virtuous things. Hence we are all good at the core."
Yes we were created originally in God’s image and fell into sin and when we did that we LOST God’s image.
Please cite a Scriptural reference for the above statement. Not the part about falling into sin, but about LOSING God's image.
God hates sin, according to the Bible, but nevertheless has an unbounded love for humankind. What is it in us that God loves, despite our falling into error? We are the lost sheep, the prodigal sons and daughters, but if we are evil at the core, who would be moved to repent? Why would God care?
When Christ said "Ye who are evil" I think He meant "You who have become engrossed in worldly, riotous living". Sin is mainly forgetfulness of God, IMO, and Christ is Rememberance that we are ever the sons and daughters of the Holy Father who created us in His image.
Salvation is more than merely a transitory emotional experience of 'being saved', followed by a conviction that one's reward awaits him or her in Heaven. It is the experience of samadhi, union with God wherein one experiences Sat, Chit, Ananda (Being, Consciousness and Bliss). The experience is infinitely superior to the experience of earthly bodily existence, ego-awareness and transitory pleasures. I have had a taste of this samadhi, so I am not simply repeating any religious dogma.
One is not simply either 'saved' or 'condemned'. We are all in various stages of spiritual realization. Jesus was a fully God-realized Master. There are and have been many Christs, mostly unrecognized by the world. Jesus is the greatest world Savior in history because he declared the 'good news' to the world, and most of the world, not comprehending his message, rejected Him. His mission was unique and a part of God's Plan for the world.
Salvation is just what the word implies. It is being rescued from damnation which all men will experience unless they are in Christ. Righteousness can be found in no other.
There are and have been many Christs
What tripe.
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