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Jury Finds Man Guilty of Murder in Kansas Abortion Providerís Death
Foxnews.com ^ | 1/29/10

Posted on 01/29/2010 9:49:10 AM PST by FutureRocketMan

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To: ohioWfan
I'm taking about all your posts to everyone.


During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did?

if they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

551 posted on 02/01/2010 8:37:17 AM PST by factmart
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To: freethinker_for_freedom

“So they suicide bomber, who sacrifices himself in a misguided attempt to stop Israel’s attacks on Palestine, also commits an unselfish act for the life of others whom he did not even know. Is this also a great act of love that deserves our approval?”

Do you really not see the moral difference there? The suicide bomber kills innocent life, just like the abortionist. You really need to think these analogies through before posting. Israel does not attack Palestine they react to attacks by attacking. It is a defensive move that Israel makes. All the muslims have to do to not be attacked by Israel is quit killing Isreali’s...don’t you really understand this stuff?


552 posted on 02/01/2010 8:37:20 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: ohioWfan
I'm taking about all your posts to everyone.


During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did?

if they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

553 posted on 02/01/2010 8:37:38 AM PST by factmart
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To: freethinker_for_freedom

“Are you really so confident that you are following God’s law by killing someone?”

First of all, I have not nor will I “kill someone”. In regards to your confusing the moral issues with Roeder vs. terrorists, I am sorry for you if you do not see the difference. The terrorists are more aligned with Tiller than Roeder. Indeed, they both take innocent life. Israel is not the aggressor in their war. It is the muslims...who want to destroy Israel. So, get your thinking straight before posting please. Don’t make things up just to try to win arguments, it actually will make you lose here.


554 posted on 02/01/2010 8:41:07 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: factmart
How strange that you keep posting the same bizarre distortion of reality, diametrically opposed to every word I have posted. If I say "black" you will post that I said, "white." If I say "white, you will post that I said, "black."

Oh, well......

Have a nice life, factmart.

555 posted on 02/01/2010 9:01:16 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan
During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did?

If they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

If all the founding fathers they would be shocked to see that so many people kill their babies.

The majority of the poeple feared God in their time but I guarantee you that they would have supported Scott Roeder and his so called murder.

556 posted on 02/01/2010 9:01:44 AM PST by factmart
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To: factmart
During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

Repeated nonsense and exact opposite of what I have said and believe.

Pretty soon it's going to be obvious that you are deliberately misstating the truth, factmart. Please stop it. It's unbecoming in a discussion of what is moral to deliberately state what you know is not factual. (Repeating a lie does not make it true, you know.....)

Last post to you. You have given me no choice but to ignore your words. Good bye.

557 posted on 02/01/2010 9:09:59 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan
Sorry Ohio, for the mistakes in my last post.

During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

***********The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did? It was murder!***********

If they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

If all the founding fathers were here today they would be shocked to see that so many people kill their babies.

The majority of the people feared God in their time, but I guarantee you that they would have supported Scott Roeder and his so called murder.

I'm glad your pro life but wish you would change the babies killers minds not the people who believe like the founding fathers. God Bless You and keep up the Pro Life Fight!

558 posted on 02/01/2010 9:32:26 AM PST by factmart
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To: factmart
One last try....

Taking up arms against British soldiers is a different situation entirely, no matter how hard you try to impugn me by continuing to saying I would do nothing in China or in the Revolution (which I have clearly stated was not true). As a female in 1776, I wouldn't be shooting too many soldiers, but I most certainly would if I had to (you haven't got a clue about who I am).

At any rate, you may feel free to shoot abortion doctors if you think that's what being pro-life means. But if you do, I will agree with the jury that finds you guilty of murder.

If your standard for being pro-life is killing doctors, then live by that standard and go kill some.

I am living by my standard of what it means to be truly pro-life with no apologies. It is wrong to murder. It is imperative to stand up for the sanctity of life.

Now no more false accusations, OK? Can we end this please?

559 posted on 02/01/2010 9:57:16 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

***********The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did? It was murder!***********

If they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

If all the founding fathers were here today they would be shocked to see that so many people kill their babies.

The majority of the people feared God in their time, but I guarantee you that they would have supported Scott Roeder and his so called murder.

I’m glad your pro life but wish you would change the babies killers minds not the people who believe like the founding fathers. God Bless You and keep up the Pro Life Fight!


560 posted on 02/01/2010 10:01:47 AM PST by factmart
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To: factmart
I have distinguished way upthread between war and this situation.

Soldiers killing soldiers in war are not murdering them.

The situations are different, and I am not going to start again a discussion about holy war, war, philosophy, ethics, morality, Scriptural mandates, Jesus' example, Jesus' commands......any of those things.

I have discussed all of the issues above. If you want to know my views on any, just scroll back. I've made myself very clear....... repeatedly.

Just read what I've already said and save me some time. I'm done.

561 posted on 02/01/2010 10:15:57 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

***********The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did? It was murder!***********

If they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

If all the founding fathers were here today they would be shocked to see that so many people kill their babies.

The majority of the people feared God in their time, but I guarantee you that they would have supported Scott Roeder and his so called murder.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

They were killing and breaking the law over tea and freedom but you won’t even support breaking the law to save babies.

According to the King they were committing treason and murder by murdering the British.

They would have for Scott, that my point!

Now be like a women and get in the last word when I thought you said you were done.

You are not like our founding farthers


562 posted on 02/01/2010 10:31:22 AM PST by factmart
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To: ohioWfan
***********The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did? It was murder!***********

If they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

If all the founding fathers were here today they would be shocked to see that so many people kill their babies.

The majority of the people feared God in their time, but I guarantee you that they would have supported Scott Roeder and his so called murder.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

They were killing and breaking the law over tea and freedom but you won’t even support breaking the law to save babies.

According to the King they were committing treason and murder by murdering the British.

They would have supported Scott, that my point!

Now be like a women and get in the last word when I thought you said you were done.

You are not like our founding farthers

563 posted on 02/01/2010 10:36:01 AM PST by factmart
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To: factmart

We need More Scotts who gave everything


Yes of course you are right...in so many ways.

This is what it has come to. This country has failed us and our progeny. It has failed the world according to Lech Walesa. I believe him.

The only question now is can the US survive the next few years...until real conservatives get elected.

Events are moving quickly...and the vast najority of people have still not awakened to the perils facing us.


564 posted on 02/01/2010 12:57:51 PM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: Wpin

Satan has indeed become more cunning and subtle. He merely had to foul the culture in such a way that honor has been replaced by the moral acceptance of instant gratification. Find an immediate need or desire and fill it with an immediate solution with widespread appeal to the equally selfish and short-sighted, damn the morally debilitating consequences due to show up down the road. The appearance of those dire consequences are generally hidden just under the next horizon.

Killing infants in the womb, days away from birth. My God, have mercy on us!


565 posted on 02/02/2010 1:09:51 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Wpin

“...suicide bomber, who sacrifices himself in a misguided attempt...”

Did you read “misguided”?


566 posted on 02/03/2010 9:25:06 PM PST by freethinker_for_freedom
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24-week abortion
567 posted on 02/04/2010 11:38:48 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

Thanks for the photo - even though it probably won’t last. At church we’ve been praying for some premie twins - born just a bit over 1 pound and 2 months(?) early. The weird thing is, I imagine some of the “progressives” in the church would have no problem with a mom’s choice at this stage of the game.


568 posted on 02/04/2010 11:42:40 PM PST by 21twelve (Having the Democrats in control is like a never-ending game of Calvin ball. (Giotto))
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To: 21twelve

Thanks to the honorable owner of this website, all the pictures have lasted.

If every American saw photos of an actual abortion, the “procedure” would be immediately banned (though there still might be a few people with no conscience at all who would be for them).


569 posted on 02/04/2010 11:56:25 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

There is a group that shows up once-in-awhile with the very graphic images of abortions on huge posters. Will stand at the entrances to parks, etc. The photos are gruesome, and people take offense to them. I was taken aback the first time I saw them, but had time to contemplate it a bit.

I saw them the next week as well. Distracted my young kids (about 5 yrs at the time) from the images, but that was okay. I think my older one (8 years) and I discussed it a bit - but he didn’t see the pictures well either - just the group of protesters.


570 posted on 02/05/2010 12:12:07 AM PST by 21twelve (Having the Democrats in control is like a never-ending game of Calvin ball. (Giotto))
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To: 21twelve

Yes, the photos show the truth about abortion. It is horribly gruesome and everyone in the country needs to see it.

That pro-life group you speak of does a great work. The photos are from their website.

www.abortionno.org


571 posted on 02/05/2010 12:42:34 AM PST by Cedar
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