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Jury Finds Man Guilty of Murder in Kansas Abortion Providerís Death
Foxnews.com ^ | 1/29/10

Posted on 01/29/2010 9:49:10 AM PST by FutureRocketMan

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To: factmart

God bless you too. And good day.


541 posted on 02/01/2010 7:26:33 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: factmart
OK, so you don't accuse me of evading the question and once again ignore the facts in what I've said, I'll tell you.

I would never break the law and murder anyone. I would break the law to stop from murdering someone.

I would do whatever I could to keep my baby alive, even if it meant breaking the law.

And that position is completely consistent with my pro-life view that it is against God's law to murder.

(btw, I would be in a house church in China, worshipping with other believers and sharing the Scriptures with the lost. I am consistent and principled).

Now.............God bless you, and Good Day.

542 posted on 02/01/2010 7:34:28 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: factmart
Sorry to keep going here, BUT, I never said that Tiller's murder was wrong just because it was against American law. I said it was wrong because it was against God's laws.

Therefore your question/ trap was really irrelevant to any of my points.

But I answered it anyway, because, unlike my accusers here, I am honest and principled.

543 posted on 02/01/2010 7:38:38 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan
Good answer,

During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

Our founding fathers were the other type of Christian that were willing to take up arms over a tea tax and just plain freedom. They were called murderers too.

Thank you again for finally answering the question, God Bless you!! If they will were here today they would be willing to give up freedom, life, possessions to stop this country from killing babies. Just like Scott.

Nothing is wrong your type of Christian, but don’t knock people that see God’s law above man.

544 posted on 02/01/2010 7:50:33 AM PST by factmart
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To: factmart
During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

This is exactly the opposite of what I have said and what I believe.

Other than distorting the truth beyond recognition, I think you mean well. Other than concluding the exact opposite of what reality is, I think you believe you're a good person.

Thanks for the revelation, factmart. No matter what I say, you'll conclude that I said the opposite. I say that God's law is above man's and you accuse me of putting man's law above God. I say I would break the law to save a life, and you say that I would sit idly and do nothing.

You're a confused dude.

Bon revolution!

545 posted on 02/01/2010 8:00:20 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan
According to your logic the founding father were committing
murder fighting the law that was in effect at the time.

They rebelled for far less than what Scott rebelled for and a higher call, innocent babies.

By the way Jesus did not tell people to call other people names?

546 posted on 02/01/2010 8:17:40 AM PST by factmart
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To: Wpin

“How many supreme court justices made it “legal” to deny the right to life of babies? Do you really believe that transcends God’s law?”

Are you really so confident that you are following God’s law by killing someone?

“What Roeder did he did out of love for humanity. This is much different than the vicious random killings by the Muslim suicide bombers committed with hatred.”

How do you know? I heard that many of the suicide bombers claim to be motivated by love of their Muslim brothers who were being slaughtered (they felt) by the Israelis. They too would claim they were killing out of a love for humanity.


547 posted on 02/01/2010 8:22:57 AM PST by freethinker_for_freedom
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To: factmart
Saying you're confused is not calling you a name. You've taken my words and said that I believe the opposite. That's a sign of confusion.

This is a senseless waste of time. You may continue this on your own if you wish, but it grows wearisome to have ones words distorted beyond recognition, and that's what you will continue to do because you want me to agree with you that murder is justified if the person being murdered is bad enough......and I won't.

Now.......I'm part of the revolution against abortion and Barack Obama. Join me, if you will, or continue to fight against me with your confused words. Your choice.

548 posted on 02/01/2010 8:28:04 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Wpin

“Roeder’s act was an act of love, love for the babies. He sacrificed his life for the babies that are saved by his actions. He was cognizant of this sacrifice and still made it. That is an unselfish act for the life of others whom Roeder did not even know. That is a great act of love.”

So they suicide bomber, who sacrifices himself in a misguided attempt to stop Israel’s attacks on Palestine, also commits an unselfish act for the life of others whom he did not even know. Is this also a great act of love that deserves our approval?


549 posted on 02/01/2010 8:28:37 AM PST by freethinker_for_freedom
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To: backslacker

“There is NO SUCH THING as a fetus. Women don’t give birth to “fetuses.” They give birth to children. This is an abortionist’s crafted word. Why fall for the deceptions of the left?”

You are exactly right of course. Women give birth to children. This gives rise to the question, why do so many women make a distinction between a fetus and a born child? There is virtually never a woman who will tolerate harm to one of her born children, but quite a significant percentage are willing to terminate the life of a fetus. I wonder why those standard mothering instincts are turned off when it comes to the unborn. Is it some fault in our genetic programming?


550 posted on 02/01/2010 8:35:33 AM PST by freethinker_for_freedom
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To: ohioWfan
I'm taking about all your posts to everyone.


During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did?

if they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

551 posted on 02/01/2010 8:37:17 AM PST by factmart
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To: freethinker_for_freedom

“So they suicide bomber, who sacrifices himself in a misguided attempt to stop Israel’s attacks on Palestine, also commits an unselfish act for the life of others whom he did not even know. Is this also a great act of love that deserves our approval?”

Do you really not see the moral difference there? The suicide bomber kills innocent life, just like the abortionist. You really need to think these analogies through before posting. Israel does not attack Palestine they react to attacks by attacking. It is a defensive move that Israel makes. All the muslims have to do to not be attacked by Israel is quit killing Isreali’s...don’t you really understand this stuff?


552 posted on 02/01/2010 8:37:20 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: ohioWfan
I'm taking about all your posts to everyone.


During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did?

if they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

553 posted on 02/01/2010 8:37:38 AM PST by factmart
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To: freethinker_for_freedom

“Are you really so confident that you are following God’s law by killing someone?”

First of all, I have not nor will I “kill someone”. In regards to your confusing the moral issues with Roeder vs. terrorists, I am sorry for you if you do not see the difference. The terrorists are more aligned with Tiller than Roeder. Indeed, they both take innocent life. Israel is not the aggressor in their war. It is the muslims...who want to destroy Israel. So, get your thinking straight before posting please. Don’t make things up just to try to win arguments, it actually will make you lose here.


554 posted on 02/01/2010 8:41:07 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: factmart
How strange that you keep posting the same bizarre distortion of reality, diametrically opposed to every word I have posted. If I say "black" you will post that I said, "white." If I say "white, you will post that I said, "black."

Oh, well......

Have a nice life, factmart.

555 posted on 02/01/2010 9:01:16 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan
During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did?

If they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

If all the founding fathers they would be shocked to see that so many people kill their babies.

The majority of the poeple feared God in their time but I guarantee you that they would have supported Scott Roeder and his so called murder.

556 posted on 02/01/2010 9:01:44 AM PST by factmart
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To: factmart
During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

Repeated nonsense and exact opposite of what I have said and believe.

Pretty soon it's going to be obvious that you are deliberately misstating the truth, factmart. Please stop it. It's unbecoming in a discussion of what is moral to deliberately state what you know is not factual. (Repeating a lie does not make it true, you know.....)

Last post to you. You have given me no choice but to ignore your words. Good bye.

557 posted on 02/01/2010 9:09:59 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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Sorry Ohio, for the mistakes in my last post.

During the Revolutionary War, you would have been the type of Christian that would have sat on your hands and prayed that England would win because you did not want to commit treason. (Doing nothing in China is the same thing.)

***********The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did? It was murder!***********

If they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

If all the founding fathers were here today they would be shocked to see that so many people kill their babies.

The majority of the people feared God in their time, but I guarantee you that they would have supported Scott Roeder and his so called murder.

I'm glad your pro life but wish you would change the babies killers minds not the people who believe like the founding fathers. God Bless You and keep up the Pro Life Fight!

558 posted on 02/01/2010 9:32:26 AM PST by factmart
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To: factmart
One last try....

Taking up arms against British soldiers is a different situation entirely, no matter how hard you try to impugn me by continuing to saying I would do nothing in China or in the Revolution (which I have clearly stated was not true). As a female in 1776, I wouldn't be shooting too many soldiers, but I most certainly would if I had to (you haven't got a clue about who I am).

At any rate, you may feel free to shoot abortion doctors if you think that's what being pro-life means. But if you do, I will agree with the jury that finds you guilty of murder.

If your standard for being pro-life is killing doctors, then live by that standard and go kill some.

I am living by my standard of what it means to be truly pro-life with no apologies. It is wrong to murder. It is imperative to stand up for the sanctity of life.

Now no more false accusations, OK? Can we end this please?

559 posted on 02/01/2010 9:57:16 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

***********The founding fathers committed murder. People died. It was the law not to kill the British, how can you say you would have did what they did? It was murder!***********

If they lost they would have been put to death by the legal authority.

If all the founding fathers were here today they would be shocked to see that so many people kill their babies.

The majority of the people feared God in their time, but I guarantee you that they would have supported Scott Roeder and his so called murder.

I’m glad your pro life but wish you would change the babies killers minds not the people who believe like the founding fathers. God Bless You and keep up the Pro Life Fight!


560 posted on 02/01/2010 10:01:47 AM PST by factmart
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