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Many 'Successful' Gay Marriages Share an Open Secret (promiscuity, infidelity common)
New York Times ^ | Jan 28, 2010 | Scott James

Posted on 01/29/2010 12:04:49 PM PST by DesertRenegade

When Rio and Ray married in 2008, the Bay Area women omitted two words from their wedding vows: fidelity and monogamy.

“I take it as a gift that someone will be that open and honest and sharing with me,” said Rio, using the word “open” to describe their marriage.

Love brought the middle-age couple together — they wed during California’s brief legal window for same-sex marriage. But they knew from the beginning that their bond would be forged on their own terms, including what they call “play” with other women.

As the trial phase of the constitutional battle to overturn the Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage concludes in federal court, gay nuptials are portrayed by opponents as an effort to rewrite the traditional rules of matrimony. Quietly, outside of the news media and courtroom spotlight, many gay couples are doing just that, according to groundbreaking new research.

A study to be released next month is offering a rare glimpse inside gay relationships and reveals that monogamy is not a central feature for many. Some gay men and lesbians argue that, as a result, they have stronger, longer-lasting and more honest relationships. And while that may sound counterintuitive, some experts say boundary-challenging gay relationships represent an evolution in marriage — one that might point the way for the survival of the institution.

New research at San Francisco State University reveals just how common open relationships are among gay men and lesbians in the Bay Area. The Gay Couples Study has followed 556 male couples for three years — about 50 percent of those surveyed have sex outside their relationships, with the knowledge and approval of their partners.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; infedelity; infidelity
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Wow, as if we didn't already know - the homosexual lifestyle involves multiple partners and sex outside of their primary relationship. This seems to put Boise and Olson's b.s. court performance in a different light. If homosexuals don't really practice monogamy, then why are they demanding the right to change the sanctity of marriage? Could it be what they really want is to defile our whole culture?
1 posted on 01/29/2010 12:04:50 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade

They don’t want to be “married”.

They want to destroy the concept of marriage, the one stated as “For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.” (Gen 2:24)


2 posted on 01/29/2010 12:07:31 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: DesertRenegade

The whole thing is both disgusting and disturbing. I feel like I need to go bathe after reading it.


3 posted on 01/29/2010 12:07:31 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: DesertRenegade

What’s the point of calling it marriage? Sounds like an orgy to me.


4 posted on 01/29/2010 12:08:01 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: DesertRenegade

Sort of like, “it’s not prostitution if you don’t get paid”.


5 posted on 01/29/2010 12:09:24 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: DesertRenegade
“In 1900, the average life span for a U.S. citizen was 47,” Mr. Quirk said. “Now we’re living so much longer, ‘until death do us part’ is twice as challenging.”

So maybe fidelity ought to be easier for homosexual men? Seeing as they tend to die twenty years earlier than the rest of us? Fallacious nonsense, all the way through.

6 posted on 01/29/2010 12:10:54 PM PST by heartwood
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Well if marriage is defined as being one man and one woman, and you disregard that, then most surely you can disregard all of the other things that describe marriage as well.


7 posted on 01/29/2010 12:12:33 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: DesertRenegade
John Edwards & Bill Clinton = Poofters
8 posted on 01/29/2010 12:12:57 PM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: DesertRenegade

Then what’s the purpose of marriage in the first place?...............


9 posted on 01/29/2010 12:13:28 PM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: DesertRenegade

This is why we need civil unions. If we’re just going to talk about marriage as a contract, then anyone should be able to enter into that contract as a civil union. If we’re going to talk about MARRIAGE, that’s more than just two people sharing a fridge.


10 posted on 01/29/2010 12:14:08 PM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: DesertRenegade

>> New research at San Francisco State University ..

I had enough when I saw where this “research’ came from. It;’s like climate research coming from University of East Anglia.


11 posted on 01/29/2010 12:16:20 PM PST by max americana
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I think the story is dead wrong. Love did not bring these two middle aged freaks together. It was Lust.

It will be lust that eventually will tears them apart.

When you are married you stay Monogamous with one woman or man ,and things are fine. When one or the other strays it is because something is missing or one thinks that the grass is greener somewhere else.
When you are sampling this grass, sooner or later you will find that greener grass, or you will think you have and then the marriage is over.

Why work out marital problems with your significant other, if you know there is another significant other down the street that you have been humping.

Relationships have to have trust, and there can be no trust when you are passing out your charms down the street.

The people in this story are not in Love, they are merely confortable right now. It won’t last.


12 posted on 01/29/2010 12:16:28 PM PST by Venturer
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some experts say boundary-challenging gay relationships represent an evolution in marriage — one that might point the way for the survival of the institution.

Wow. I wonder how many heterosexual women find that their marriage has been strengthened by the discovery that hubby has been cheating? Real marriage is largely meant to protect children and make them legitimate and secure, as well as to protect both men and women. A man's interests are disastrously violated if he is forced to support another man's children. Since reproduction is impossible for homosexuals, they really don't need marriage.

13 posted on 01/29/2010 12:16:48 PM PST by hellbender
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To: MrB

This is about changing the meaning of words - it’s like women insisting that she be called “men” - that that is the only way she can get her civil rights.

It’s absurd, petulant, intellectually dishonest and harmful.


14 posted on 01/29/2010 12:19:24 PM PST by aquila48
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To: DesertRenegade
“I take it as a gift that someone will be that open and honest and sharing with me,” said Rio

Yeah.

I'd be beside myself with gratitude if someone pointing a gun at me said "I'm going to kill you" before they pulled the trigger.

I guess some people feel like they be grateful for whatever they can get.

That doesn't mean the rest of us should be forced to celebrate it.

15 posted on 01/29/2010 12:23:11 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (ND LE)
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Then what’s the purpose of marriage in the first place?...............

For them, it's for the money.

16 posted on 01/29/2010 12:23:59 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (New Wizard of Oz: Pelosi as the Wicked Witch of the West & Michelle as the Wicked Witch of the East.)
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“In 1900, the average life span for a U.S. citizen was 47,” Mr. Quirk said. “Now we’re living so much longer, ‘until death do us part’ is twice as challenging.”

Mr. Quirk you are an IDIOT. If you made it to marriage in 1900, median age for women marrying back then was 22, your life expectancy was you would live another 44 years. The whole life expectancy was only 47 back then was due to high infant mortality rates.

17 posted on 01/29/2010 12:28:28 PM PST by C19fan
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. . .which is why Government needs to get out of the “marrying” business.

Set up your civil union as you see fit, but CHURCHES control marriage. And like Hebrew National Hot Dogs. . .they answer to a slightly higher authority. . .


18 posted on 01/29/2010 12:32:20 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: BlessedBeGod

“I Now Pronounce You Chick and Mary”.


19 posted on 01/29/2010 12:41:41 PM PST by Califreak (Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver.)
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To: MrB

They want to destroy the concept of marriage, the one stated as “For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.” (Gen 2:24)

You are quite correct. The idea by the left is to always enter by the backdoor if need be to destroy long held Christian Traditions(marriage,Christmas,,Crosses,Ect). And then they will set their sights on the main object of their hatred, the Church. The Church is the one thing actually left standing in their way to being considered as normal as Heterosexuals.That’s the goals Folks.


20 posted on 01/29/2010 12:42:19 PM PST by dbrew2u
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