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Good article that really lays out the facts behind federal employment and benefits, in contrast to a lot of the know-nothing criticisms heard here and in other places!
1 posted on 02/03/2010 7:26:10 AM PST by Poundstone
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“There’s a reason for that. Federal workers are better educated.”

Bullshit.


2 posted on 02/03/2010 7:29:20 AM PST by jessduntno (Obama: not your typical Black Liberation Theologist/Marxist/Afro-AmeriKanner President...)
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There's always someone around who imagines that federal employees do nothing all day and still get paid.

That's always been my impression of the source of the complaint.

3 posted on 02/03/2010 7:30:11 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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4 posted on 02/03/2010 7:31:55 AM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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I would like to know the percebtage of gummint workers that are immigrants or first-generation of immigrants. (AKA “affirmative action hires”)


7 posted on 02/03/2010 7:32:34 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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Notice the writer judiciously avoids mentioning the 90% salary pension with full medical benefits received by 25 yr federal employees until the day their spouse dies.

Nothing in the private sector to compare with that, is there.

8 posted on 02/03/2010 7:32:40 AM PST by skeeter
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Let’s turn it upside down and point out ...

The feds pay better and give away lavish benefits and pensions so the more educated clamor for the income.

Time to limit govt wages and track them to the private sector. If govt decisions hurt the private workplace then the public sector pay should hurt as well.


9 posted on 02/03/2010 7:32:44 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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FACT: With few exceptions, they're working for the government because they can't make it in the private sector.

FACT: They're better paid because of unions, control of funding and cronyism.

10 posted on 02/03/2010 7:33:07 AM PST by Errant
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There’s a reason for that. Federal workers are better educated.


Slight problem with this conclusion. If Federal Workers are so educated and so brilliant, then why are they working for the government when they could be earning a zillion dollar salary in private industry.


12 posted on 02/03/2010 7:34:59 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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Why Federal Workers Deserve What They Get:

SEC workers investigated for porn-surfing. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/02/sec-workers-investigated-for-viewing-porn-at-work/

The work computer of one regional supervisor for the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission showed more than 1,800 attempts to look up pornography in a 17-day span: “It was kind of distraction per se,” he later told investigators.

But he wasn’t alone. More than two dozen SEC employees and contractors over roughly the past two years have faced internal investigations after they were caught viewing pornography on their government computers, according to records obtained through the Freedom of Information Act and other public documents.

The activities of porn-surfing SEC workers, a small fraction of the overall work force, have been serious enough to warrant a mention in each of the past four semiannual reports sent to Congress by the SEC’s office of inspector general.

In response to the open records request by The Washington Times, the inspector general’s office provided more than 150 pages of records and transcripts on the investigations, but declined to identify the employees involved. The office noted that disclosure of the employees’ names “could conceivably subject them to harassment and annoyance in the conduct of their official duties and private lives.”


13 posted on 02/03/2010 7:35:50 AM PST by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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Are you kidding me. I read the article and all I could make out if it was that it was a fluff piece.

I would like to see any of these people leave the Federal Government right now and get a job with equal pay and benefits in the private sector. Never mind getting a job in the private sector with higher pay. And not some quasi-government “non-profit” company.

What a load of bull.

14 posted on 02/03/2010 7:36:07 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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This has been the line coming out of academia for the past 25 years. “The real future is in the public sector, see? We need more of our best and brightest to bypass industry and come to work in public service.” Obama’s plan to wipe away their student loans after ten years proves this.


15 posted on 02/03/2010 7:36:42 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Agreed! I've been insulted on this board simply for defending myself from people who associate all Federal workers with the DMV. This won't convince the naysayers but it doesn't matter and I don't care. I know what I do and what it's worth to the Navy. I have no time or desire to worry that someone else thinks I'm overpaid.
16 posted on 02/03/2010 7:36:58 AM PST by Sursam Abordine
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It doesn't matter how educated they are or how old they are. What matters is that there are too many of them, they do things the government has no business being involved in, they don't produce results rather they create or exacerbate more problems than they solve, and their benefits and pensions are creating an economic catastrophe for this country.

There is nothing in here that lays out a true analysis of the situation - just a lot of high-level generalities. What are the degrees they hold? Are the degrees relevant to the job they are being paid for? How effective are the departments in which they are employed? Should the government even be involved in the matter to begin with? They may have been there a long time but do they have 25 years of experience or one year 25 times?

In the real world you can only get paid on your resume or your experience for so long. Eventually you have to produce results. In the government if you don't produce results you ask for more money.

17 posted on 02/03/2010 7:37:13 AM PST by hometoroost (I am not a crook, I did not have sex with that woman, and I am not an ideologue.)
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Many years ago, I had a regular tennis game with an older guy who was a doctor working for the Federal government. He was a nice enough fellow, but as I got to know him I realized he was not that smart, and was probably not that good a doctor.

Of course, any licensed physician can get some sort of job at decent pay, but I think there was a reason he took the job he had. The hours were good, too, we used to start our tennis game at 5 PM on a weekday.


21 posted on 02/03/2010 7:39:22 AM PST by proxy_user
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The gap in education is offset by a much larger gap in IQ.
The private sector wins that one, hands down.
26 posted on 02/03/2010 7:42:05 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Not my real name)
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Fine..but we just don’t need as MANY of them!


27 posted on 02/03/2010 7:42:20 AM PST by Lets Be Frank
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Plus, you need to denude 10 acres of forest to produce the paper to document why you need to fire someone who isn’t doing their job. If you can fog a mirror, your job is pretty much guaranteed for life.


28 posted on 02/03/2010 7:42:22 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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FEDERAL Workers Compensation 101: Know the Basics

The Federal Employees’ Compensation Act (FECA) provides benefits to all federal employees of the United States Government. These civilian employees of the U.S. government include the Departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Defense, Education, Health & Human, Services, Homeland Security, HUD, Justice, Interior, Labor, State, Transportation, Treasury, Veteran’s Affairs, Federal Judiciary (Court System), U.S. Postal Service, U.S. Capitol Police, Legislative Branch, TSA, NASA, Forest Service, Border Patrol, National Guard, et al.

Just look at these benefits for all these workers. Who wouldn't clamor for a gubbmint job? I have been to Social Security offices and post offices and if those are highly educated individuals our schools are an abysmal failure!

30 posted on 02/03/2010 7:44:09 AM PST by Neverforget01 (The problem is the doing, not the talking....Gov Haley Barbour)
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This article is for crap. Working for the government is called "Civil Service" the key word there is "SERVICE." These people are supposed to be working for the good of the nation and its people, not for their own selfish ends.

That is why the unionization of federal employees is such an abomination. Federal employees are a drag on the nation's economy. Every dollar spent paying a civil service employee is one dollar taken from a tax-paying private sector employee...one dollar taken out of the economy and put into government coffers.

There are now 2.15 million federal employees now.

You want high pay and the luxuries in life, get a real job in the private sector and stop sponging off of the American tax-payer.
31 posted on 02/03/2010 7:44:28 AM PST by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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The chapter also counters those who might see a growing federal workforce as an indication that government is getting too big. In 1988, when Ronald Reagan, that champion of small government, was president, there was one federal employee for every 110 residents. Twenty years later, the ratio was one to 155.


Assuming the above numbers are true, the fact that in 1988 there was one FED per 110 residents (notice they did not use the word citizens) and today there is one FED employee per 155 residents, the comparison ignores the tremendous strides made in computers during the past 20 years.

If one were to make a similar comparison in the private sector, they would see that employees have far greater responsibilities in terms of employee per dollar of sales today than 20 years ago due to the increase in computers and technology and tools.


32 posted on 02/03/2010 7:44:37 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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