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Breaking!! Obama at prayer breakfast says can question his policies, but not his citizenship.
politico ^ | 2/4/2010 | p

Posted on 02/04/2010 6:43:03 AM PST by milwguy

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For those who are interested, Hemenway explains and asks the DC Circuit Court of Appeals to take judicial notice of exactly how the HI Territorial Law 57 allowed the local registrar to record births as Hawaiian births with so little verification that the birth literally could have occurred anywhere. You be the judge:

V. THE GREATER LATITUDE UNDER THE TERRITORIAL STATUTE TO GET A “BIRTH CERTIFICATE” ALTHOUGH NOT CERTIFIABLY BORN IN HAWAII

We believe that the Court is obligated to take judicial notice of the attached territorial statute and, in doing so take judicial notice that there are ways that a “birth certificate” can have been obtained for a child under that statute that are allowed greater latitude for such a “birth certificate” to have been obtained that would be restricted under the present statute, so that the present statute allows for a child to have been born outside the state and still have been issued a Hawaiian “birth certificate,” but does so without the same breadth of possibilities for that having happened as was possible under the attached territorial statute.

For example, under § 57-9(a) allows for a situation where the official then knows as the “local registrar” can obtain information from “any person having knowledge of the birth” and prepare and file the birth certificate. We ask the Court to take notice of the latitude for inaccurate information that is thus created. Further, § 57-9(b) allows there to be a filing of a certificate of birth on which required information is simply missing and can thus be filed by a “supplementary report” and yet the filing of initially unsupplied information by a “supplementary report is not considered as causing that report with information that was not supplied at the outset to be treated as “delayed” or “altered.” It must be noticed that this creates great latitude for mistakes or even abuse of requirements. Thus, although § 57-18 gives the same time frame—one year—that was incorporated in the 1982 state statute, for a “delayed” or “altered” certificate, the procedures give greater latitude for there to be mistakes and abuse of the procedures and for incomplete information.

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341 posted on 02/06/2010 8:56:16 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: curiosity

http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/Obama-Ordered-By-Judge-To-Respond-On-Birth-Certificate-Issue-By-Monday.aspx

Curiosity you are smarter then that.

Only in progressive utopia could a parent after living one year in a state get a kid born anywhere in the world a COLB. That would be Hawaii.


342 posted on 02/07/2010 3:59:56 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: curiosity

http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/Obama-Ordered-By-Judge-To-Respond-On-Birth-Certificate-Issue-By-Monday.aspx

Curiosity you are smarter then that.

Only in progressive utopia could a parent after living one year in a state get a kid born anywhere in the world a COLB. That would be Hawaii.


343 posted on 02/07/2010 4:00:09 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: Seizethecarp
For those who are interested, Hemenway explains and asks the DC Circuit Court of Appeals to take judicial notice of exactly how the HI Territorial Law 57 allowed the local registrar to record births as Hawaiian births with so little verification that the birth literally could have occurred anywhere.

Which proves my point: there was no legal means for registering a foreign birth in Hawaii in 1961. To do so would have required comitting fraud, for which there was no compelling reason in the case of Mama Obama.

344 posted on 02/07/2010 12:10:17 PM PST by curiosity
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Only in progressive utopia could a parent after living one year in a state get a kid born anywhere in the world a COLB.

First of all, that law was passed in 1982. It wasn't on the books when Bambi was born.

Second of all, you are misrepresenting the law. Yes, since 1982, Hawaii has registered out of state births, but the COLB doesn't list Hawaii as the birth place for a child born out of state. Duh.

345 posted on 02/07/2010 12:45:26 PM PST by curiosity
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One simple question: Why has he spent a ton of money on lawyers to keep his BC and college transcripts etc private..answer that Mr. anti birther.


346 posted on 02/07/2010 12:54:48 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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Why has he spent a ton of money on lawyers to keep his BC and college transcripts etc private..answer that Mr. anti birther.

The simple answer is that he hasn't. You are repeating yet another birther myth.

347 posted on 02/07/2010 1:00:40 PM PST by curiosity
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The simple answer is that he hasn't.

..and how is it you have information that makes your statement valid.

Now an even simpler question...why don't your leader simply release a valid bc and his college records....and don't tell me he has...because that is certainly bull shitte in the highest order!

348 posted on 02/07/2010 5:03:13 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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You are fighting the wrong battles. The war is to throw this ass out.


349 posted on 02/08/2010 12:59:18 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: curiosity

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/11/28/hi-dept-of-health-admits-obamas-colb-is-faked/


350 posted on 02/09/2010 12:28:34 PM PST by Lumper20
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I read the link. I don't see what you think it proves, other than the Hawaii DOH is sick of dealing with birthers. It most certainly does not contain any admission of the COLB being faked.

As to the "date filed" vs. "date accepted" canard, Obama's COLB isn't the only one that says "date filed." Every Hawaiian COLB posted on the net that was printed since 2001 says "date filed." It appears the DOH just changed the wording on their standard form.

Also, the state department only cares about the "date filed" in passport applications.

So again, we have yet another birther red herring.

351 posted on 02/09/2010 12:40:02 PM PST by curiosity
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I do not care about the damn certificate as much as I care that this Clown does not neet natural born. Both parents have to be US citizens.


352 posted on 02/10/2010 5:13:38 AM PST by Lumper20
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I do not care about the damn certificate as much as I care that this Clown does not neet natural born. Both parents have to be US citizens.


353 posted on 02/10/2010 5:14:54 AM PST by Lumper20
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