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Biothicist Wesley J. Smith: New Brain Study Has Bearing on Terri Schiavo Case
Life News ^ | 2/4/10 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 02/04/2010 3:51:42 PM PST by wagglebee

London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Top bioethicist Wesley J. Smith says the new study showing active brain activity in patients who are supposedly in a vegetative state or a minimally conscious state has a bearing on the Terri Schiavo case. He says the judge who allowed her husband to kill her should have ordered similar tests.

The study found that patients in such unconscious states were able to respond mentally to yes and no questions by thinking of different things that activate brain activity in certain areas.

The patients showed they were very aware because they could answer all sorts of personal questions and do so accurately.

Smith recalled the Terri case in reaction to the study and pointed out how "she had been diagnosed as PVS and the courts refused to allow that determination to be shaken during the ordeal."

"Indeed, when it was clear that Terri would be lying in bed for a year pending appeals, the family begged Judge Greer to permit sophisticated brain scanning that had never been used on her before," he recalled. "It couldn't have hurt her, and it might have shown something. But stubbornly, he refused. I will go to my grave believing the judge knew what he didn't want to know."

Smith says both the Schindler family and others who observed Terri said she could "react, particularly, that she could hear and respond to loving talk (as in the famous photo of her smiling broadly as she is greeted by her mother or her opening her eyes wide on request.)"

He said that "thanks to Judge Greer’s intransigence we will never know what her brain scan would have shown."

Smith says those who point to Terri's autopsy to supposedly show she had no brain activity can't really rule out that she did not have any brain activity.

"The report said her brain was consistent with either a PVS or minimally consciousness, and moreover, that such decisions are clinical, not subject to being decided upon autopsy," he said.

In comments to the New York Times, Nicholas D. Schiff, an associate professor of neurology and neuroscience at Weill Cornell Medical College, said the study should have a significant impact.

“This should change the way we think about these patients,” he said. “I think it’s going to have very broad implications.”

Smith worries that it won't have that kind of impact.

"The bioethics mainstream has rejected the equality/sanctity of human life for the so-called quality of life ethic," he writes today.

"It began with the odious advocacy of Joseph Fletcher in the Hasting’s Center Report back in 1972, claiming that the inability to communicate meant that one had lost humanhood (now called personhood). Thus today, not only unconscious but conscious patients are dehydrated to death in all fifty states and it is shrugged off as medical ethics," Smith explains.

Ultimately, for Smith: "Conscious or unconscious, people should not have to earn the right to receive basic sustenance. What we did to Terri Schiavo was a blight on the legal system and bioethics. Pretending otherwise won't make that stain go away."

Related web sites:
Wesley J. Smith - http://www.wesleyjsmith.com



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; moralabsolutes; prolife; terrischiavo
"Indeed, when it was clear that Terri would be lying in bed for a year pending appeals, the family begged Judge Greer to permit sophisticated brain scanning that had never been used on her before," he recalled. "It couldn't have hurt her, and it might have shown something. But stubbornly, he refused. I will go to my grave believing the judge knew what he didn't want to know."

Greer ordered TERRI'S MURDER and NOTHING will ever change that fact.

1 posted on 02/04/2010 3:51:42 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/04/2010 3:52:17 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 02/04/2010 3:53:23 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 02/04/2010 3:53:45 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Duplicate thread addressing this subject.


5 posted on 02/04/2010 3:54:04 PM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: wagglebee

btt


6 posted on 02/04/2010 3:54:49 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: wagglebee

Hello!! I know you can hear me but can’t respond but I have some rather bad news. We’ve decided to pull the plug on you. I know this isn’t the news you’ve been waiting for but that miracle thing ain’t gonna happen for you. We had some good times together but that’s history. Later. Oops, sorry . . . just a habit.


7 posted on 02/04/2010 3:56:19 PM PST by BipolarBob (My bodyguard is a 6'3" pooka named Harvey.)
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To: wagglebee

Yes, it was a judicial murder. Her husband did everything possible to kill her, the nursing home aided and assisted him, and the judge then ordered her murdered. I wonder how much he was paid.


8 posted on 02/04/2010 3:57:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: verity
Duplicate thread addressing this subject.

No, there are multiple threads discussing the news, there are ALWAYS multiple threads dealing with major news. This IS NOT a duplicate thread.

9 posted on 02/04/2010 3:58:01 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Her husband worked very hard to get her killed. I suspect because he was the one who put her in the hospital in the first place and he did not want the chance of her ever saying it was him. Greer therefore was also an accomplice to obstruction of justice.


10 posted on 02/04/2010 3:58:08 PM PST by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: wagglebee

That’s right and we should never forget.


11 posted on 02/04/2010 4:06:20 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: wagglebee

NYer’s thread is much better.


12 posted on 02/04/2010 4:06:40 PM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: wagglebee

Yes. Terri Schindler WAS murdered, by her ‘husband’ and this ‘judge’—both of whom will someday stand before God for their crimes.

Prayers going up for Terri’s family when they learn of this research—all that pain will be stirred up again. :*(


13 posted on 02/04/2010 4:08:31 PM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: wagglebee

Greer needs to be held accountable...


14 posted on 02/04/2010 4:09:23 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: wagglebee

Do I remember correctly that there was some scan that they couldn’t do because Schiavo had had experimental surgery on Terri early on and it left some sort of metal device in her brain?


15 posted on 02/04/2010 4:11:59 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: wagglebee

bump


16 posted on 02/04/2010 4:12:22 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: verity; NYer; Steelfish
NYer’s thread is much better.

NYer's thread is excellent, so is the one I posted earlier and the two that Steelfish posted. But, as I said, this is major news and there will be multiple threads.

I realize that this may make those FReepers who supported Terri's murder uncomfortable and I am DELIGHTED by that fact, I sincerely hope that they realize how horribly WRONG they have been,

17 posted on 02/04/2010 4:20:51 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Nateman
Her husband worked very hard to get her killed. I suspect because he was the one who put her in the hospital in the first place and he did not want the chance of her ever saying it was him.

Exactly!

18 posted on 02/04/2010 4:21:46 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

He and the sleazy husband will answer to God


19 posted on 02/04/2010 4:27:52 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: wagglebee

Yep Judge Greer facilated her husband’s desire to kill her. IMHO both are guilty of murder. My neither have a moment of peace in this life nor in the eternal one to come.


20 posted on 02/04/2010 4:28:50 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: wagglebee

BUMP for Terri.

life


21 posted on 02/04/2010 4:32:24 PM PST by PGalt
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To: RnMomof7

I don’t see it ending well for either of them.


22 posted on 02/04/2010 4:33:00 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Me either.. I hope the fire is stoked


23 posted on 02/04/2010 4:35:57 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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24 posted on 02/04/2010 4:37:02 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( garden/survival/cooking/storage- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2299939/posts?page=5555)
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bookmark.


25 posted on 02/04/2010 4:37:58 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: RnMomof7
Here is what Terri's smug, abusive, adulterous, murdering "husband" actually had the gall to do as she lay dying:

"That evening the hospice ordered pizza and salad for us and the police, and for several hours, Brian [Schiavo], Debbie [Bushnell], George [Felos] and I camped in the room with Terri whose breathing was becoming more labored. George and Brian pulled some chairs together and kind of put their feet up, and we waited." (Terri: The Truth, pg. 314)

26 posted on 02/04/2010 4:43:47 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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They ate pizza as she starved to death... evil is real and it walks among us


27 posted on 02/04/2010 4:49:56 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: RnMomof7

As Terri lay STARVING AND DEHYDRATING TO DEATH, GASPING FOR EACH BREATH these bastards sat in her room eating pizza with their feet propped up on her bed. Judas Iscariot had more shame than Terri’s murderers.


28 posted on 02/04/2010 4:58:31 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Michael Schiavo, “judge” Greer and George Felos will have a lot to
explain when they meet their maker, should justice not prevail in
their lifetimes on earth!


29 posted on 02/04/2010 5:20:42 PM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: Nateman

Bingo!


30 posted on 02/04/2010 5:22:27 PM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: wagglebee

Pro-Life bump


31 posted on 02/04/2010 5:46:36 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: wagglebee

Judge Greer will burn in his own hell someday along with his pals from the Sheriff’s Dept., the death cult lawyers, Mikey, Gov. Crist, the appeals judges and the ACLU lawyers.


32 posted on 02/04/2010 7:09:11 PM PST by floriduh voter (Charlie Crist, you're sinking in the polls faster than a sinkhole on the interstate.)
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To: chris_bdba

There is no statute of limitations for murder. I wish they’d arrest Judge Greer someday. Judges should not have immunity when they murder someone.


33 posted on 02/04/2010 7:10:16 PM PST by floriduh voter (Charlie Crist, you're sinking in the polls faster than a sinkhole on the interstate.)
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To: wagglebee

Terri was so frightened and she was suffocating while HINO was eating pizza. There came a point that Terri’s mom could not even go to see her any longer because not only was Terri being tortured to death, but she looked grotesque, too grotesque for a mother’s eyes to bear.


34 posted on 02/04/2010 7:12:24 PM PST by floriduh voter (Charlie Crist, you're sinking in the polls faster than a sinkhole on the interstate.)
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To: All
Pinged from Terri Dailies


35 posted on 02/06/2010 2:07:26 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Can’t the family sue the state for wrongful death, in light of this new study?

Isn’t there are lawyer anywhere who would argue this case?


36 posted on 02/06/2010 2:25:55 PM PST by tuckrdout ("Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson)
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