Posted on 02/05/2010 5:18:03 AM PST by SJackson
Just because all the rats in your house aren’t trying to gnaw the fingers and toes off of your baby doesn’t mean you should tolerate rats in your house. It is the nature of the rats, and you can’t watch all of them all of the time to determine whether they are friendly, moderate, reliable rats, or the bad ones.
Use this comparison. Most Germans during WW2 were just basic, apolitical good folk trying to live a life.
It didn’t matter, because the Nazis set the agenda, and kept the ordinary good folk in line via a number of mechanisms, including fear.
Just like Islam, another insane ideology camouflaged as a religion.
So, I avoid the Nazi analogy and use the Japanese Shinto religion/ideology which really was/is much more similar to Islam. Again they wrongfully associate the Japanese samurai’s as right wing even know they wanted a theocracy or government control of everything.
liberals are very simplistic thinkers. ‘Everything that is bad is from the right wing period.’
hennie pennie I like your point.
I used to listen to AIR AMERICA and I've located a local station which broadcasts plenty of progressive far left libbies.
Radio is different from TV. Whereas there is NO way I could watch Olbermann or Matthews, there's several far left radio talk show hosts who I frequently tune in.
So... I don't "need" to discuss anything political with anyone liberal -- I simply listen to folks like Mike Malloy and the people who call in to commisserate with him. They are ardent True Believers who despise Governor Sarah Palin, have utter disgust with Glenn Beck, and ... why I am amused by listening to them, they are all vervently angry with that hack conservative Barack Obama, he is WORSE than Hillary, he is Hillary on Steroids, ETC/ETC. They adore Howard Dean and they sincerely believe that Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY Democrat who is honest and trustworthy.
There is NO way that I would try to explain ANYTHING about terrorism to anybody who remeotely believes all the stuff I listen to on Far Left talk radio.
NO way.
How about you set up a blog, and then you can write your heart out about these issues which are obviously so important to you, and you obviously are an articulate eloquent writer, and have great ideas, with the education & knowledge to back it all up.
I don't... really actually believe that it is entirely SAFE to engage the far left libbies in face to face conversation, seriously....
Perhaps you should quit wasting your time talking to libs. They are, without exception, indoctrinated know-nothings.
I have been physically threatened on a number of occasions.
and they don't think of themselves as National Socialists.
Three items that really opened my eyes...
1. Myers
http://www.carlisle.army.mil/USAWC/Parameters/06winter/win-ess.htm
2. Coughlin
http://www.strategycenter.net/docLib/20080107_Coughlin_ExtremistJihad.pdf
3. Spencer
I have come to the conclusion that Islam is the greatest anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collective in the history of humanity.
Of all of my rants on this forum about everything else, Islam will be the greatest threat going forward into the future to any and all that I love.
Perhaps spend your time talking with people who are intelligent enough to honestly evaluate the evidence without automatically disregarding the facts because they don’t like your comparison.
Spend your time talking with people who think logically and are receptive to your message, and don’t waste any further time arguing with idiots would be my suggestion...
When I bring the Nazi analogy up, they just say, ‘the irony is amazing.’
libs are stuck in this idea that the right wing are the National Socialist (AKA: Federal Socialist) and this branding a whole group for the actions of a few is a good example of that.
So, I avoid the Nazi analogy and use the Japanese Shinto religion/ideology which really was/is much more similar to Islam. Again they wrongfully associate the Japanese samurai’s as right wing even know they wanted a theocracy or government control of everything.
liberals are very simplistic thinkers. ‘Everything that is bad is from the right wing period.’
I heard a good test to see someones politics once, which really is a mind set. It was very simple.
It went like this:
Lets skip the reason you have a loaded .45 cal colt 1911 on you.
'You are out side with your family you have the weapon on you. You notice a guy dressed in robes with a knife in one hand running right at you and your family with the look of death in his face. Realistically what do you do?'
Answers:
A. Aim to kill and empty the weapon into the guy.
B. Aim to kill and take one shot.
C. Aim to wound with one shot.
D. knock the guy out with the back of the weapon.
F. This isn't enough information to act on this, then ask important questions like what color are his robes.
If you answered:
A. your a right wing extremist.
B. your a conservative.
C. your a moderate.
D. your a lib
F. your a left wing wacko
I thought this was a really good test to see your politics.
how money is spent and how large government is all seems to fall together with this test.
I doubt it is perfect but I think it is fairly close.
Bear in mind it was schools like Brandeis and the like which produced the radical SDSers of the 70s. How much anti-Americanism did she imbibe while there? Combine that with the destructive impulses of Islam and, bingo, you have a jihadist.
Link does not work.
Islam is not a religion in the sense we understand religions.
They are a religion in the sense that the KKK was a religion...or the Nazis were a religion.
As you said, it's an ideological movement...with a religious veneer. Asking a lib to understand that is futile.
Trying to reason with crazy people will make you insane. To take your test one more step..if they actually believe what they say, then faced with a situation like you describe, they believe they are safer if they throw the gun in the bushes.
Don't waste your time. Ignorance is not something that can be defeated through fact , logic or truth. Such is the difference between the quick and the dead.
Some must be lost.Nothing can be done about it.
Seek those of like sentiment and knowledge, establish community,let the unwise perish.
Try the one for Pajamas Media at the end of the article.
libs do understand Islam is a threat but they refuse to believe it for their own ideological grounds.
PGalt: I haven’t seen a couple of those sites. Thanks for the links.
The only reason Islam is a threat is because we allow them to be.
We allow them to be a threat because many of us refuse to believe they are a threat.
Once we are all (or vast majority) in agreement they will cease to be a threat. The only way that is going to happen at this point is when nuclear weapons land on some major cities.
Islam is curse upon humanity. They should not be allowed to coe to the Americas. Now that they are here, we must send them back, or kill them all. There is no in between.
Never would I agree to that. There are other ways to deal with them. Read how Mao dealt with Islam in Western part of China. There has only been two times in history has Islam been occupied and subdued.
Genghis Khan and Mao.
Do you by any chance happen to know if there is still something ... called something like the "anthrax list" --- it's been years since I've seen any reference to it, but after the Amerithrax Attack, it was very active for a long time.
I don't recall much more... but I think that this woman was frequently discussed there.
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