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Launching NASA on a Path to Nowhere: Analysis (4 time shuttle astronaut rips Obama plan)
Popular Mechanics ^ | February 2, 2010 | Tom Jones

Posted on 02/06/2010 12:42:42 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares

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To: Names Ash Housewares

This stupid plan is like trying to bring yourself out of impending bankruptcy by not buying new windshield wipers.


21 posted on 02/06/2010 2:54:20 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: saganite
Nope. I made three objective statements in that post.

in your own opinion because your original comment was subjective, not objective.

22 posted on 02/06/2010 3:24:29 AM PST by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - Dockery for Gov. - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: saganite

Following such path, wouldn’t be the Chinese and Indians far more cheaper than anything America can build to reach Low Earth Orbit?

Following Obama’s administration, why not subcontrat everything with Chinese and Indians and use NASA to “I don’t know yet”?


23 posted on 02/06/2010 3:32:23 AM PST by J Aguilar (Fiat Justitia et ruat coelum)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Tom Jones is right!

I saw Gene Cernan (last man to walk on the moon) interviewed a couple of days ago. He said almost the same thing. Right at the end of the segment when the reporter and he were exchanging pleasantries Cernan added that the country must change course if we are to survive, or something to that effect. He said we cannot abandon the frontiers of science and expect to remain a world power.

24 posted on 02/06/2010 3:56:32 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: J Aguilar

I think NASA should use all of its appropriation to give anyone who wants one of those weightless parabola flights. Let’s be honest. Effing around in microgravity is all anyone really wants-including the astronauts. I know they go up in space and fix stuff, but that stuff gets sent up already broken. I’d love one of those flights after a long week at the office. Like a massage.


25 posted on 02/06/2010 4:02:02 AM PST by KingLudd
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To: saganite

you must be a dem


26 posted on 02/06/2010 4:11:14 AM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

The Shuttle has been Nasa’s path to nowhere for the last 25 years. We should have returned to the Moon long ago and set out for Mars already.


27 posted on 02/06/2010 4:32:17 AM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: gibtx2

LOL! No, I support free market capitalism which is why I believe private enterprise can do near space cheaper and better than NASA. You would be the Dem in this scenario because you support throwing more money at a bloated federal bureaucracy.


28 posted on 02/06/2010 5:40:30 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: J Aguilar

Perhaps eventually but how many commercial airliners do they make now and how long has that industry been around?


29 posted on 02/06/2010 5:42:33 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: saganite

lol you are funny


30 posted on 02/06/2010 5:47:19 AM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: gibtx2

Nope, I’m accurate. Why do so many supposed conservatives support NASA? Frankly, I can’t understand it.

Since Apollo wound down the only thing the manned program has accomplished is proving to the nth degree that we can orbit the earth. What has that accomplished? Not a thing. No science, no new technology, no new frontiers. The latest iteration of the astronaut welfare program would have us building rockets based on outdated technology which would never go to the moon, never go to Mars and never accomplish any real science. Nothing more than a govt jobs program, no different really than new highway projects that don’t need to be built.

On the other hand, if you could be bothered to research it, private industry is on the threshold of entering space in a very big way. Google Bigelow aerospace, Space-X, VASIMR, Orbital Sciences and many more. That’s where the future is, not some bloated over the hill govt run agency.


31 posted on 02/06/2010 5:56:17 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: saganite

There is NO compelling commercial business plan / reason for us to go to space. never has been so your premise of commercial space is just that an illusion. Talk about blotted bureaucracy look at the commercial space business now. My, my charity begins at home with every defense contractor in the US on dole for ‘commercial business’.If the fed doesn’t fund it and control it, it wont happen. So where exactly are going to get this money from? So your just anti NASA. You must work in the space business. Other wise you would want all of it shut down if your a free market kinda guy.


32 posted on 02/06/2010 5:59:10 AM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: saganite

no even close to accurate.. you must work for one of them.


33 posted on 02/06/2010 5:59:52 AM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

You mean to tell me that in a $3.8 trillion budget, you can find $3 billion for NASA? That amounts to a math error on a spreadsheet somewhere!


34 posted on 02/06/2010 6:13:24 AM PST by LiteKeeper ("It's the peoples' seat!")
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To: gibtx2

I thought we could have a discussion here but I can see I’m dealing with a child. Have a nice day.


35 posted on 02/06/2010 6:17:47 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: KingLudd
I’d love one of those flights after a long week at the office. Like a massage.

Nothing like a ride on the Vomit Comet

had a few flights myself during my AF days...albeit on an old C-131

36 posted on 02/06/2010 6:21:50 AM PST by OBXWanderer
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To: saganite

By the time that occurs, he will have retired and the only chance he would have had to get to space would be by speaking Russian or Chinese.


37 posted on 02/06/2010 6:30:26 AM PST by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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To: trumandogz

NASA cannot work on projects directly for defense. That is the purview of the military.


38 posted on 02/06/2010 6:32:30 AM PST by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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To: saganite

I agree those are the future, Space-X, Bigelow and the like. But what to do till then? It’ll be 10 to 15 years before these companies develop heavy launch manrated rockets/human carrying capability. And what till then? Nothing? That’s Obama’s budget. And is the government their only customer? How’s that for risk tolerance?

Develop both parallel. Seed companies. But only the government can take the risk to for a trip to Mars. It just ain’t economically sound for private industry.


39 posted on 02/06/2010 6:40:29 AM PST by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
There is not a single case in human history of a successful, thriving culture/nation that was not expansionary. Territorial stasis or decline is the first sign of cultural and civilizational doom. We, as a moral nation, have no desire to conquer the territory of other nations (otherwise Kuwait and Iraq would be the 51st & 52nd states), so our only other options are the depths of the oceans... and out there. All of the other arguments are irrelevant. Either we are looking up, or we are wasting away.

Those who say otherwise are ignorant of both history and human nature...

40 posted on 02/06/2010 6:50:02 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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