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Rep. Ryan proposes radical solution to budget problem (**GASP** privatize SS, Medicare, Medicaid!)
Washington Post ^ | 2/07/10 | Ezra Klein

Posted on 02/07/2010 3:13:03 PM PST by Libloather

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To: gusopol3
Health Accounts Are Medicare Reform

Private health accounts are a crucial component of Medicare reform. First, they would contain medical inflation to the benefit of all payers - including Medicare - by making millions of consumers more price-sensitive. Second, they would enable tomorrow's seniors to save for their retirement health expenses, including premiums, deductibles and copayments under Medicare and Medigap plans. Finally, health accounts are an investment in Medicare reform. H.R. 2596 would accustom Americans under age 65 to exercising more control over their own health care dollars. This would create an enormous constituency for future Medicare reforms based on choice and competition, rather than rationing and controls.

Here is a comprehensive review of how to reform Medicare. It is by Tom Saving, a former SS and Medicare Commission Trustee, someone I have met and respect.

21 posted on 02/07/2010 4:32:20 PM PST by kabar
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Thanks, that’s a good point to make but still for people in their working years.


22 posted on 02/07/2010 4:52:59 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: Libloather

he’s going to be the next Newt and I mean that in only the best way. The House GOP lost their way with with Hastert, delay and boehner.


23 posted on 02/07/2010 5:28:30 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: Libloather

It would scare some of the seniors, but if seniors had privatized Medicare and S.S. all their working years, Medicare/S.S. would not be headed for bankruptcy today.


24 posted on 02/07/2010 5:32:31 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: kabar

I know how to cap all this and end it,you have FR mail.


25 posted on 02/07/2010 5:51:23 PM PST by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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Oh my goodness .. the left is not going to like that at all.

And the president .. well it ruins all his plans to bankrupt the country .. I can hardly wait to hear what Rush and others have to say about this plan tomorrow.


26 posted on 02/07/2010 9:02:42 PM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: kabar

Welll....it would be nice if they would not basically REQUIRE Medicare after age 66...or whatever it is....


27 posted on 02/07/2010 10:15:35 PM PST by goodnesswins (VOTE Democrat........DESTROY America)
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To: gusopol3

Read the link on post #21.


28 posted on 02/08/2010 4:26:14 AM PST by kabar
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To: goodnesswins

It is age 65. Yes, many people would like to retain their existing insurance. The percentage of doctors not accepting Medicare patients is around 10% and growing. Nine out of 10 people on Medicare have supplemental private insurance.


29 posted on 02/08/2010 4:28:58 AM PST by kabar
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It’s dumb to try too much at once, it’s a political loser. It would be popular to talk about a federal hiring freeze and reconfiguring public employee entitlements, that would bend the budget curve effectively.

It wouldn't do anything. In 2010, apending on social security, medicare, defense, and interest on the national debt will equal 102% of federal revenues. So we are at a point where we can eliminate all federal departments and employees not in these four categories entirely and not balance the budget. We are at the point where someone needs to touch the third rail if we are to survive.

30 posted on 02/08/2010 8:49:08 AM PST by Texas Federalist
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ping!


31 posted on 02/08/2010 8:50:46 AM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: Libloather

BUMP for later. If he can get any traction on this I’d be for it but the devils in the details.


32 posted on 02/08/2010 8:58:30 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Libloather

Ryan’s plan would be in line with Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution! How dare he!


33 posted on 02/08/2010 9:30:39 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Texas Federalist
Although I hardly trust the messenger here (i.e. the WaPo blogger), Ryan's not talking about the near-term either.

the proposal from Rep. Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) for what our budget should look like 60 years from now

A freeze and roll back by attrition starts with something doable, now. The hiring freeze was Reagan's first shot, and when the air controllers' union tried to roll him he shut them down. By that means you start to coalesce so that some of these bigger, longer term goals become workable.

34 posted on 02/08/2010 9:49:18 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping!


35 posted on 02/08/2010 10:26:20 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Libloather

Some will say privatization is also wrong, because the govt. shouldn’t force SS or Medicare on us, even if we privatize.


36 posted on 02/08/2010 6:21:55 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Man50D

Do you mean where it says “general Welfare of the United States;”?


37 posted on 02/08/2010 6:26:34 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: kabar

The Next Six Bailouts?

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/bailouts-/story?id=9456477&page=1

Was the government’s $3.8 billion infusion of cash into GMAC last week a sign of what’s to come in this new year?

Some experts expect to see billions more in bailouts in 2010 — this despite the fact that all nine original recipients of the government’s Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) have repaid the tens of billions in loans they received in 2008 and 2009.

Read more at abcnews.go.com ...

The next six :

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

Federal Housing Administration

AIG

Citigroup

States

Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation

Other unfunded bailouts strategically and/or stupidly omitted by ABC Smooze :

FDIC

Medicare, Medicaid and ObamaCare

Social Security

Civil Servant Pensions

Many more banks when ARM’s hit and the commercial R/E bubble pops

Several trillion in short term debt rolloverswithin the next couple of years

A couple of trillion or so to foreign governments who want to cash out of Treasuries

A few trillion in added interest costs when the U.S. loses its AAA rating and/or when interest rates skyrocket


38 posted on 02/08/2010 8:23:07 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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