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Where are our Security Services? WHY DID THIS HAPPEN AT ALL, AND WHO IS GOING TO STOP IT?
The Post & Email ^ | February 8, 2010 | Neil Sankey

Posted on 02/08/2010 12:11:59 PM PST by Faith

(Feb. 8, 2010) — Another thought-provoking article appeared yesterday in The American Thinker, where Jack Cashill takes “Another Look at Obama’s Origins.”

As the author of several previous articles regarding ”eligibility,” I received a lot of ridicule and criticism, being one of the early writers to suggest the man bore a striking resemblance to Malcolm X in my articles published in the British newspapers.

-more at link - http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/08/where-are-our-security-services/

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; eligibility; nationalsecurity; naturalborncitizen; obama
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How big is the plot? Likely it is more extensive than we can imagine.
1 posted on 02/08/2010 12:11:59 PM PST by Faith
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To: Faith
“Where are our Security Services? WHY DID THIS HAPPEN AT ALL, AND WHO IS GOING TO STOP IT?”

Obozo couldn't have happened 50 years ago because our culture served Truth even if individuals here and there did not.

Today Our ‘security’ services along with all the other institutions that once served America by bowing to Truth, are as PC as all those guys at FT Hood; you know, the dead guys and the wounded guys and the guys who saw it happen and the ones who saw it coming and the ones who heard about it after wards, the ones at the top, the guys in middle management, the grunts pulling along at the bottom etc.

When a nation goes down from rot on the inside it doesn't do it suddenly. It does it slowly, over decades. We are going on 50 years of rot. We will see the results very soon if not now.

2 posted on 02/08/2010 12:26:16 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: Faith

For some reason I can’t get the links to work.

I found the article referred to, by Jack Cashill, “Another Look at Obama’s Origins”, at The American Thinker.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/another_look_at_obamas_origins.html


3 posted on 02/08/2010 12:26:29 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; Fred Nerks; onyx

More coverage in the UK press, with mention of Malcolm X lookalike, BHO.


4 posted on 02/08/2010 12:27:07 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

For the life of me, I can’t understand why being Malcom X’s son matters, if true. Aside from the fact that he lied. Okay, that’s a problem. But they’re acting like simply being the progeny of X tells us something about Obama. As if we didn’t know what he was about already. You know, from listening to him (carefully).


5 posted on 02/08/2010 12:40:21 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Faith

” Given the available evidence, including the fact that some evidence has been strategically withheld, one can infer that Obama likely was born in Hawaii but that Ann Dunham did not give birth to Barack Obama, Sr.’s child on August 4, 1961.”

Intriguing speculation, but the above does not square with 2 different newspapers announcing an August birth, as well as the Obama certificate number fitting within the known BCs issued in that period. Even given any of the paternity scenarios spun out by the author, then assuming Obama Sr. willingly took responsibility for paternity, there would be no reason to “fake” an August, as opposed to an earlier, delivery date.


6 posted on 02/08/2010 12:44:10 PM PST by DrC
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To: Tublecane

But... but... but Tubal Cain!! It’ll make a better movie if Stanley Anne Dunham was together with Malcolm X.... right???


7 posted on 02/08/2010 12:50:54 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: DrC
Intriguing speculation, but the above does not square with 2 different newspapers announcing an August birth

The actual news papers have not been produced to my knowledge, only microfiche which is easily edited.

There is some speculation that it has been because of the lack of the Nordyke twins not being listed as well.

Some one please correct me if I'm not up to date on that.

8 posted on 02/08/2010 12:52:47 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“only microfiche which is easily edited.”

Seriously? Do you really think there was a single microfiche copy of each newspaper needing editing? Any forger would have to worry and wonder whether every single copy had been located at all the various places they might have appeared, ranging from local libraries, to university libraries to Library of Congress to the newspapers themselves. Sure, some dedicated soul might have gotten ready access to public library copies to forge them: are you imagining this Mission Impossible team also broke into the vaults of the newspapers themselves to make this modification too?

The Nordyke twins names weren’t found in the particular list that included Obama. That doesn’t rule out their showing up on the list from the preceding week.


9 posted on 02/08/2010 1:06:40 PM PST by DrC
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To: DrC

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaCOLB.htm

The Birth Certificate Number Mystery

1. August 4, 1961: Obama born in Hawaii

2. August 5, 1961: Nordyke twins born in Hawaii

3. Nordyke birth certificate number on top of birth certificate:

4. One twin: 61 10637

5. Other twin: 61 10638

6. Obama birth certificate number: 61 10641

7. The information above has been displayed on the Internet, so it is part of the public record.

8. If the above information is displayed all over the internet for anyone to see, then why can’t the Hawaii government be forced to legally explain the following controversy:

9. That is, if Obama was born one day BEFORE the Nordyke twins — Aug. 4 vs. Aug, 5 — then why is Obama’s birth certificate number 3 numbers higher — 10638 vs. Obama’s 10641 — than the Nordyke’s number?

10. So why can’t Hawaii officials, like Dr. Fukino, be forced to legally explain why Obama’s birth certificate number is higher than the Nordyke twins’ number, if the numbers are already part of the public record?


10 posted on 02/08/2010 1:09:15 PM PST by Faith (Natural born citizen and willing to prove it.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

The Nordyke twins announcement was in the Aug. 16 paper according to this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2428562/posts


11 posted on 02/08/2010 1:12:42 PM PST by Albertafriend
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To: Albertafriend
Thanks!!

I do my best to keep up but there are so many twists to this story.....someday the truth will come out, hope it's soon.

12 posted on 02/08/2010 1:17:58 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: Faith

“So why can’t Hawaii officials, like Dr. Fukino, be forced to legally explain why Obama’s birth certificate number is higher than the Nordyke twins’ number, if the numbers are already part of the public record?”

That’s a legitimate question, but operationally, it’s not hard to answer. It all depends on when doctors got around to signing a certificate, when each certificate got mailed or otherwise delivered to health department, what order such documents got into someone’s in-basket, when that individual opened and processed them etc. The discrepancy is way too tiny to chalk up to anything other than standard operating procedures.

Note that parents did not sign Nordyke certificate until August 7, attendant did not sign until August 11 (gasp!).
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=105347. We don’t have the long form version for Obama, so we don’t know what the corresponding dates are, but it should be obvious from the Nordyke forms that documentation was “lackadaisical” at best. In that context, Obama’s BC being slightly out of order is no big deal.

Moreover, why would a clever forger ever create such a mess in the first place? If you’re going to all the trouble of forging a BC, surely you could make a point to insert the president’s fake # in FRONT of the Nordyke twins, no? Likewise, if you’ve gone to all the trouble of forging a new entry onto newspaper microfiche, why would you leave off 2 names of individuals whose certificate numbers were just ahead of Obama’s? Occam’s razor suggests that the simplest explanation is the most likely here.


13 posted on 02/08/2010 1:30:27 PM PST by DrC
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To: Faith

*Our* security services are actually beholden to the suits in *our* government not’ the average Joe.

If they are told to stand down, they will because they like being alive and having a job.

Check this out:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21026035/The-Obama-Timeline-1961-2009-the-Following-Timeline-Presents-the-Important


14 posted on 02/08/2010 1:30:38 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: DrC
Intriguing speculation, but the above does not square with 2 different newspapers announcing an August birth, as well as the Obama certificate number fitting within the known BCs issued in that period.

The number, which is still out of order with others, reflects when the BC was filed, not necessarily when the child was actually born.

15 posted on 02/08/2010 1:51:13 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Faith
9. That is, if Obama was born one day BEFORE the Nordyke twins — Aug. 4 vs. Aug, 5 — then why is Obama’s birth certificate number 3 numbers higher — 10638 vs. Obama’s 10641 — than the Nordyke’s number?

Not only that, but his "online" "COLB" says his cerficiate was filed 3 *days* before theirs was. So you'd expect his number to be several, perhaps tens of, numbers lower than theirs.

16 posted on 02/08/2010 2:03:36 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Faith
"That is, if Obama was born one day BEFORE the Nordyke twins — Aug. 4 vs. Aug, 5 — then why is Obama’s birth certificate number 3 numbers higher — 10638 vs. Obama’s 10641 — than the Nordyke’s number?"

One easy explanation.

Obama was born on a Friday night. The Nordyke twins the next day, Saturday. Monday morning was the first day hospital clerks would have been available to assign numbers.

How do you build a stack of paper? Oldest on the bottom, newest on the top.

How do you go through a pile of papers you've been handed to assign numbers to? From the top to the bottom (i.e. from newest to oldest).

I'm sure that there are other explanations possible, but this one is the simplest.
17 posted on 02/08/2010 2:36:46 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: Tublecane
For the life of me, I can’t understand why being Malcom X’s son matters

Malcom X was a US citizen. His child by a US citizen mother would be a Natural Born Citizen. The child of Barrack H. Obama, Kenyan and British Citizen/Subject, is not.

18 posted on 02/08/2010 3:05:18 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: hennie pennie; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...
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More coverage in the UK press, with mention of Malcolm X lookalike, BHO.

[Thanks, hennie pennie.]

19 posted on 02/08/2010 3:23:58 PM PST by LucyT
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To: DrC

The certificate number and filing date on the Factcheck COLB are incompatible with the certificate numbers and filing dates on the Nordyke twins’ birth certificates.

Procedurally, the certificate numbers were given by the DOH at the time that the certificate was filed with them. But the Factcheck COLB has a later number than the Nordykes’ certificates, even though it was supposedly filed at the DOH 3 days earlier than the Nordyke certificates.

The DOH has told Leo Donofrio that they had documentation on file for Obama by Aug 9, 1961. But at this point nobody knows whether the DOH is being truthful in anything it says. See http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/


20 posted on 02/08/2010 3:40:12 PM PST by butterdezillion
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