Posted on 02/10/2010 9:47:20 AM PST by Dementio
Republicans may have a hard time keeping up their talking point about how reading Miranda rights to the Christmas Day bomber represented a dangerous new direction under President Barack Obama.
It turns out that that back in December 2001, Richard Reid — the “shoe bomber” — was read or reminded of his Miranda rights four times in two days, beginning five minutes after being taken into custody.
Furthermore, the Bush administration specifically rejected the idea of a military tribunal — another step that Republicans have argued should have been taken in the case of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who tried to bring down Northwest Flight 253 over Detroit on Christmas Day and was read his rights after 50 minutes of FBI questioning.
After Reid attempted to blow up an American Airlines flight out of Paris, Massachusetts State Police officers boarded the plane at 12:55 p.m. on Dec. 22, 2001, handcuffed Reid and removed him from the plane, according to U.S. District Court records.
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The shoe bomber was a US citizen, wasn’t he?
And thus the difference. These stooges at politico must think everyone is as dumb as a Dhimmicrat.
Why does Politico employee Mike Allen. They should just cut out the middle-man and put the White House on the byline.
Miranda was made up under the assumption cops lie about having advised suspects of their rights.So as long as we’re assuming,what’s to say they can’t just lie about having Mirandized someone ,too? (not all states tape confessions)
Seems silly to interrupt a suspect who starts spilling his guts on the ride to precinct so you can “mirandize” him. This scheme was invented by the same ilk who think there are people who don’t know smoking is bad for you and
thereby they should be awarded money for smoking .If you won’t or can’t read the Bill of Rights, don’t complain when you don’t know your rights.
In an interesting aside, Ernesto Miranda of “miranda” fame was murdered in a bar fight and his murderer was freed due to not being “mirandized” correctly.He got his justice, IMO.What comes around,goes around.
However, some 9 years later, a more complete comprehensive plan to deal with enemy combatants had been established and it should have been followed.
richard reid was a british citizen-
Yes he was. This article from Politico and Mike Allen is direct evidence of a media outlet becoming a mouthpiece for the Obama administration. The two situations were not the same since one involved a citizen and the other did not. The citizen should be given his Miranda rights but the other should not. The White House is trying to muddle the two together to justify their mistake and this attempt is nothing but political spin.
That was 40 days after 9/11. The giant bureaucracy and red tape of protocols and procedures probably weren’t in place yet. This Christmas underwear bomber was EIGHT YEARS after 9/11.
Presactly
Presactly. What kind of reporter doesn't realize that the PotUS has no jurisdiction over local cops? (rhetorical question)
Duh. He was British and I’m 100% wrong. Still, repeating a mistake is no defense.
No. He was a Brit.
so?
Three months after Sept. 11th. there were no military tribunals set up for captured terrorists.
Once we had these scummy murderers in custody at Gitmo, it was none other than Holder’s law firm constantly suing to free them.
IIRC, The Christmas bomber was taken into custody by FBI who would have waited to “mirandize” until told by superiors the status of the detainee (civil or military).
If the state cops bust you, they are conditioned to mirandize almost immediately after saying “you’re under arrest”.
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I googled it, looks like he was a Brit.
Allen is one of those Washington Post retreads that founded Politico. It is a clone of the Post.
Politico and the Post are under orders from Obama to say that anything they are doing was already done by the Republicans (trials in the US courts, Miranda readings, drone attacks).
Question these shills for Obama should be asking are “Where is all this change, if your only rebuttal is that you are doing the same thing the Republicans did.”
Precisely, this terrorism is relatively new and so are the defences. There is a learning curve with everything and mistakes in this case are expensive.
LEtting IRan, (mother of terrorists), go nuclear??? Too expensive to contemplate.
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