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The NRA Muscles into McDonald v. Chicago - “Gun nuts” battle “Constitution nuts” at the...
Reason ^ | February 10, 2010 | Brian Doherty

Posted on 02/11/2010 10:25:28 AM PST by neverdem

“Gun nuts” battle “Constitution nuts” at the Supreme Court

McDonald v. Chicago, the Supreme Court case that will settle whether or not the Second Amendment applies to states and localities, is gearing up to radically challenge Court precedent when it comes to defending rights against state infringement.

Alan Gura, lawyer for the Chicago plaintiffs whose right to effectively defend their lives in their own homes has been abridged by the city's ban on handgun possession, previously won 2008's D.C. v. Heller, the case establishing that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess weapons against federal encroachment. Gura is responsible, then, for the rehabilitation and revival of one constitutional amendment already. In McDonald, rather than merely extending the Second’s reach, he is aiming to rehabilitate and revive the 14th Amendment as well.

However, the Supreme Court’s decision in late January to grant 10 of Gura’s 30 minutes of oral argument time to the National Rifle Association (NRA) seems likely to hurt chances that the Court will take the more dramatic route laid before them. The NRA isn't a plaintiff in McDonald (though they were parties in an earlier version heard by the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals, which combined separate challenges to Chicago’s gun bans), and the organization's intent is to emphasize the more limited and traditional method of incorporating the Second Amendment against the states via the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment.

To sum up a very complicated legal argument quickly, Gura's McDonald briefs do not rely solely on the traditional due process method. He also argued that 14th Amendment's Privileges or Immunities Clause was more clearly intended to accomplish such incorporation, in terms of both legal logic and history.

An early misstep in 14th Amendment jurisprudence back in 1873 effectively murdered that clause, however, despite the fact that its value to vindicate citizens' rights against government encroachment is vast. The significance of the clause and the Slaughterhouse Cases that killed it were explained in a December Reason column.

If the the Privileges or Immunities Clause is restored to its original meaning—and pretty much all the relevant history from the 14th Amendment’s ratification proves it was meant to do more than just protect certain rights of national citizenship, contrary to the Slaughterhouse majority—American jurisprudence would become much more respectful of both unenumerated and enumerated rights. However, that very possibility makes lots of people who are otherwise rooting for Gura uncomfortable.

As Reason’s Damon Root summed up aptly, “The 14th Amendment was specifically designed and ratified to protect a sweepingly libertarian idea of self-ownership. That idea includes the right to acquire property, run a business, and buy and sell labor without unnecessary or improper interference by the government.”

Thus, if Gura wins on privileges or immunities grounds, it will open up the full richness of the 14th Amendment’s original meaning, which makes the stakes for a victory in McDonald far higher than just preventing states and localities from stopping citizens keeping guns in their homes. It is also worth remembering, as many gun rights advocates grumbled when Heller was decided, that whether the gun right protected by that case goes much beyond the use of commonly owned firearms for self-protection in the home is a matter for future courts to decide. If McDonald is won, on whatever grounds, expect the courts to swell with challenges to the dizzying variety of ways that localities restrict gun rights.

While Gura thinks the expansive power of the Privileges or Immunities Clause is great, lots of people on the right—who otherwise support extending the right to keep and bear arms to the states—don’t. (The NRA also offered an alternative argument based on the Privileges or Immunities Clause in a brief, but its explicit purpose in horning in on the oral arguments is to stress the Due Process Clause.) A representative summation of that sort of worry comes from Ken Klukowski at the conservative web site Townhall.com:

[the] libertarian activists behind McDonald openly explain that the reason they are pushing the Court to overrule Slaughter-House has nothing to do with guns. Instead, they want to advance a libertarian economic agenda, where federal judges could sit in judgment of state and local laws involving labor, employment, business regulations and other economic issues. Although the Constitution is silent on these matters, these activists want the courts to start declaring constitutional rights against such things, and using the power of the federal judiciary to strike down laws of this sort that the judges don’t like.

Gura fought for his right to argue his case his own way, explaining in a brief to the Court that the NRA’s request relied on “unjustified” speculation that he will somehow fail to argue on due process grounds as well—despite the fact that Gura did make such arguments. Yet Gura failed to convince the Court, and with no explanation the Court gave 10 minutes of Gura’s 30 minutes to the NRA and their (very respected) hired gun, Paul Clement. Clement, in his role as U.S. Solicitor General back in 2008, argued in Heller’s hearings for the Supreme Court to rein in any individual right contained in the Second Amendment at least enough to preserve laws like the federal machine gun ban. As a result, Clement's Second Amendment bonafides are widely questioned.

Gura’s reply brief to Chicago shows a lawyer fully prepared to flay the pretty shoddy arguments advanced by his opponents from Chicago, which include arguing in effect that if we can imagine a civilized society that does not respect a certain right, then states shouldn’t be required to honor it. (Chicago also seems to believe, as Gura sums up wryly, that “ordered liberty” refers to “the government’s liberty to issue orders.”)

To legal scholars such as The Volokh Conspiracy’s Orin Kerr, who never believed the Supreme Court would seriously consider overturning Slaughterhouse, the Court giving the NRA time is further proof that a McDonald victory—which seems likely given that the Heller majority is still sitting on the bench—will certainly be on the less revolutionary due process grounds. Kerr writes that Gura’s Privileges or Immunities Clause arguments “will be more of a lively intellectual exercise than a likely basis for the Court’s decision.”

Legal scholar Josh Blackman makes an interesting case that, contra Kerr’s belief that the Court will take the less disruptive of precedent route to victory, the Court is on occasion willing to vindicate a plaintiff’s rights in a radical way even when a less radical way is open to them, particularly when lawyers try to force the Court's hand, as in 1989’s Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

The history of conflict between the NRA and Gura dates back to Heller, when the gun rights organization, fearing a loss (or, in some interpretations, fearing a victory where it could not claim credit), attempted to stymie or take over the case for years before finally jumping on board as allies in the closing stretch. Gura is openly peeved that his strategy is being questioned and his time encroached on against his will. He is, he points out, willing and able to argue the due process justification for incorporation. But the reason he dedicates only 7 pages out of 73 to it is that—as he states in his opposition brief to the NRA’s move—he knew Due Process Clause arguments would be more familiar to the justices due to the very fact that they are the more traditional means to win incorporation. (When it comes to wondering who had proven themselves most competent to make a thorough due process argument, Blackman also points out the NRA failed in its brief to note the Glucksberg test, which was used in the 9th Circuit's Nordyke decision that did recognize Second Amendment incorporation on due process grounds.)

As Gura complained in The Washington Post, the NRA is “not bringing anything substantive to the argument. The NRA is principally interested in taking credit and fundraising.”

In that same Post story, the Cato Institute’s Ilya Shapiro, who has been sharply critical of the NRA’s encroachment on Gura's arguments, was paraphrased on how the NRA/Gura conflict exemplified “the differing approaches [of] 'gun nuts,' whose sole interest is a protection of Second Amendment rights, [and] 'constitution nuts,' who think the case offers a chance to reassert the importance of the privileges-or-immunities argument.”

Some forces in the gun rights community, such as one of its oldest warriors and scholars, David Hardy, refuse to take sides between the NRA and Gura. Instead, Hardy applauds both arguments and both arguers, and begs the gun rights community to stop encouraging dissension: “They're going into the fight of their lives, no OUR lives, and don't need the distractions. We can all engage in internecine battles after oral argument, or better yet, the decision. For now they need to concentrate. Bottom line: there is no bad way to win a case.”

This is admirably ecumenical, but it elides the larger possibilities at issue in the Privileges or Immunities Clause argument (which is exactly what many in the gun rights world want): that, as Gura writes in his reply brief, “applying constitutional text as plainly intended by the Framers and understood by the ratifying public possesses high intrinsic value. Nowhere is that value higher than when enforcing basic national civil rights standards.” That is the opportunity that could be lost if the NRA’s arguing time means that the Supreme Court wants to incorporate on the old Due Process Clause grounds rather than the truly radical, yet also truly original, Privileges or Immunities Clause grounds.

Senior Editor Brian Doherty is author of This is Burning Man (BenBella), Radicals for Capitalism (PublicAffairs) and Gun Control on Trial (Cato Institute).


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1 posted on 02/11/2010 10:25:28 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Once again the NRA attempts to b***-f*** gun owners.

If the Incorporation argument is succesful the raison d'etre for the NRA goes away along with all those cushy K street jobs.

Can't have that now, can we....

2 posted on 02/11/2010 10:30:44 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: neverdem

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I worry every day about the health of those five Justices who constitute the five votes to overturn the Chicago tyrannical government.


3 posted on 02/11/2010 10:32:55 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: neverdem

If the Second doesn’t apply to States and Localities then neither do any of the other Amendments.

Should be the fastest SCOTUS case in history.


4 posted on 02/11/2010 10:35:15 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Lurker

Go GOA, much better than the NRA!


5 posted on 02/11/2010 10:35:53 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Lurker
Once again the NRA attempts to b***-f*** gun owners.

How so? They're going for a win on the first shot with the due process route.

If the Incorporation argument is succesful the raison d'etre for the NRA goes away along with all those cushy K street jobs.

Not hardly. There are many other reasonable restrictions to fight, i.e. registration, permit and licensing schemes, concealed carry privileges, paying fees for a right, etc.

6 posted on 02/11/2010 10:38:20 AM PST by neverdem
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Go GOA, much better than the NRA!

The GOA is "all hat and no cattle"

7 posted on 02/11/2010 10:43:07 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Domandred
Should be the fastest SCOTUS case in history.

It could be. But I won't be surprised if they announce it on the last working day in June. Gun grabbers heads will explode, IMHO. Oral argument is set for March 2, IIRC.

8 posted on 02/11/2010 10:43:19 AM PST by neverdem
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To: OldPossum
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I worry every day about the health of those five Justices who constitute the five votes to overturn the Chicago tyrannical government.

Why worry about something in which you have no control? What could anybody do?

9 posted on 02/11/2010 10:48:38 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

For a more balanced review of this, check:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2448233/posts

Gura is banking on the Supreme Court reversing a 137 year old decision. They have had several opportunities in the past and have declined to do so.

Remember that we won in DC by 5 to 4. Four wanted to remove all hint of our 2nd amendment rights. They are not likely to change on this one. That means that all 5 of the justices from the DC decision will have to agree to reverse their own precedent. If even one of them balks, kiss 2nd Amendment rights away in anti-gun states immediately (and eventually, all states).

Gura devoted 55 pages of his brief arguing the reversal theory. He only spent 5 pages on the other theory (which does NOT require the SC to reverse themselves). That is pretty stingy of him. The NRA wants to beef that part of the case up. I agree with them. Cover ALL our bases. No one knows what the SC will do. If we lose, we will lose forever. Witness the 1873 Slaughterhouse Cases. Pretty much everyone agrees that they were wrongly decided, but it has not been overturned in 137 years.

In even the DC case, the winning side made sure to say that they were NOT reversing previous decisions. What makes anyone think they will do different here? Are you willing to bet your 2nd Amendment rights on that?


10 posted on 02/11/2010 10:48:51 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: neverdem

Resurrecting the Privileges or Immunities Clause should be our primary goal, since all of our individual rights described in the Bill of Rights (including the Right to Keep and Bear Arms) would be protected from state infringement as was the intent of John Bingham and the other framers of the 14th Amendment.


11 posted on 02/11/2010 10:50:42 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: jim_trent

Thanks for the link. IIRC, Roberts has been quoted as willing to reverse precedent. I believe Thomas and Alito would too. IIRC, Alito had no problem with homemade machineguns. Kennedy is a toss up. Scalia is the problem for reversing precedent, IMHO.


12 posted on 02/11/2010 10:54:58 AM PST by neverdem
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Resurrecting the Privileges or Immunities Clause should be our primary goal, since all of our individual rights described in the Bill of Rights (including the Right to Keep and Bear Arms) would be protected from state infringement as was the intent of John Bingham and the other framers of the 14th Amendment.

I wouldn't mind it, but I don't see Scalia going for it. Resurrecting the Privileges or Immunities Clause would upset many authoritarians, both right and left, IMHO. The war against some drugs, which is a flop, and restrictions on abortion, which I approve, could fall by the wayside. The Privileges or Immunities Clause is a double edge sword.

13 posted on 02/11/2010 11:08:22 AM PST by neverdem
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To: Lurker

“....the raison d’etre for the NRA goes away along with all those cushy K street jobs.”

May we live so long.

Never underestimate the deviousness, the commitment, the raw desire to be able to tyrannize the disarmed which motivates all too many in office.

NRA< GOA, and all the rest are perhaps going to be able to control the abovementioned batch of bachelor’s children determined to disarm us.


14 posted on 02/11/2010 11:16:28 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: neverdem

The only judges that could possibly believe that the P or I Clause could justify striking down laws prohibiting abortion or drug use are the ones that believe that the DP Clause justifies striking down such laws anyways.


15 posted on 02/11/2010 11:17:15 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: neverdem
Scalia is the problem for reversing precedent, IMHO.

I would think that Scalia is the Justice most strongly in favor of an original interpretation of the Constitution which should play heavily in favor of incorporating and expanding the 2nd Amendment. Did you hear some of the questions from Scalia during Heller?

16 posted on 02/11/2010 11:21:20 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: neverdem
Funny thing is that the Chicago "ban" is similar to the 1868 GCA "ban," except in the scope of weapons potentially covered. In both cases, the government erected barriers to possession - 1968 GCA says "no auto-fire weapons unless produced before such and so date." So, what distinguishes the Chicago law, other than the type of weapon? Under the 1968 GCA, auto-fire weapons are permitted, not banned.

Anyway, I predict a decision similar to Heller. Chicago can erect permitting hoops, but it can't maintain a 100% ban on at-home possession of handguns. The grounds for the decision are vastly more likely "selective incorporation" than P&I. I wonder what extraneous "reasonable restriction" the majority is going to promulgate this time. I see Scalia as a hack, based on his unnecessary excursion into the Miller decision, while deciding Heller. As far as I'm concerned, the Court's primary source of "legitimacy" is its access to firepower - because as a matter of morality and logic, the institution and current occupants are corrupt.

17 posted on 02/11/2010 11:36:59 AM PST by Cboldt
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18 posted on 02/11/2010 11:54:27 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverdem

bttt


19 posted on 02/11/2010 12:00:48 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: jim_trent
If even one of them balks, kiss 2nd Amendment rights away in anti-gun states immediately (and eventually, all states).

Putting it bluntly, I don't even need the 2nd amendment to tell me I have a right to defend myself.

20 posted on 02/11/2010 12:04:07 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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