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To: Springfield Reformer

>> [...] according to you, being “conservative” now is redefined to mean, “Yes, I blindly believe and accept as holy and righteous all that is done by my government.”

Pretty sure that’s not what I said, chief. I said nothing referring to “all [...] that is done by my government”. I spoke specifically about 9-11 trutherism — no conservative patriot can be a truther, its as simple as that. Her answer revealed a troubling truth about the premise from which she is operating, and it is a “progressive”, not a conservative, premise.

>> Who’d have thought that today I’d wake up to learn that being pro-life, pro-liberty, pro-second amendment, pro-small/focused/constitutional government, pro-free market, pro-strong defense, pro-immigration law enforcement, pro-family, pro-traditional marriage, pro-parental rights, etc. etc. and whatever else has heretofore been mistakenly associated with being conservative.

Those remain tenets of conservatism. One can, apparently, believe those things and still spread enemy propaganda.

“Trutherism” is aid and comfort to terrorists — it is an international fringe movement composed of radical leftists, conspiracy theorists, and terrorist sympathizers with the sole aim of blaming 9/11 on America and Americans. To me, it is functional the equivalent of Holocaust denial. If she entertains the possibility that anti-American enemy propaganda may be “truth”, she’s on the wrong side.

>> who’d have thought I’d find out that none of that has anything to do with being conservative, that really, thanks to you, we now know it all revolves on a single point - do I trust my government implicitly and without question.

That’s also not what I said. “Questioning your government” is great, but all “questions” are not created equal. Some questions are stupid. “Truther” questions are deserving of ridicule.

Entertaining the lies about this country spread by muslim fanatics and wacko leftists is not a hallmark of conservative thought, and not a trait I value in a leader. Like I said — “trutherism” is the intellectual equivalent of Holocaust denial ... she is participating or giving weight to the propaganda of anti-Americans.

She’s done.

SnakeDoc


65 posted on 02/12/2010 8:40:15 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (When you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Well, I’m still baffled. I was raised with my dad telling me how it was with Pearl Harbor. I am a conservative in every respect, including loyalty to my country. I have NO leftist ties, but because I am open to at least the premise that our government might do something very bad, because I have a mind that wants to check the facts in a fair setting, that sets me over there with the bad guys? If that floats your boat, nothing I can do about it.

But it does remind me of a certain church I no longer attend. You just couldn’t question certain things. Not even using the Bible. At that point it really came home to me. Who is my authority? Is it the truth, or is it some guy in a pulpit?

Look, I respect if you’ve never had a genuine crisis of confidence in your own government. But if you ever do, remember this. It’s the truth that sets you free, not any political party.

And truth is never a friend to our enemies. C.S. Lewis said something to this effect, that the most effective lies are those which use the truth to convey a falsehood. Leftists want us to question our government right into a state of paralysis, providing them an opening to replace it, after which no further questioning will be permitted. I get that. The US has done great good in the world, and that despite the despicable persons we sometimes put in office. It gives me true confidence in the sovereignty of God.

What I would like my fellow FReepers to get is that we cannot use the very real danger of harming our government through extreme distrust as an excuse to remain willfully blind to potentially severe abuses of that government’s authority. It’s a tightrope walk; it isn’t easy, but it is essential to the preservation of our freedoms.

So then, would you say that me believing my dad’s Pearl Harbor stories from his naval cryptography days, is a disqualification for public office? If so, please elaborate. Because thus far, you have not made your case.


75 posted on 02/12/2010 9:09:59 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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