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To: SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; steelyourfaith; NormsRevenge; Oynx; BOBTHENAILER

This goes back to Jan...but is getting discussed on some Blogs .....


2 posted on 02/13/2010 10:34:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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The Blog turned up the evidence...discussion of this article:

Amazongate: the final phase

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The Booker column is up, with the headline: "Amazongate: new evidence of the IPCC's failures". This is the start of the final phase of the IPCC's meltdown.

Actually, the Amazon story only occupies one paragraph of the column, with the newspaper reacting to the building publicity by hyping it up in the headline. Booker actually addresses the wide-ranging failures of the IPCC, including a reference to Montford (of Bishop Hill fame) and his brilliant book The Hockey Stick Illusion. Buy it.

Booker concludes, of the IPCC that: "Bereft of scientific or moral authority, the most expensive show the world has ever seen may soon be nearing its end."

However, the BBC's Roger Harrabin is already swinging into damage-limitation mode on "Amazongate", quoting "Euro-sceptic blogger Richard North".

The hapless Harrabin is driven to play down the importance of this latest development, claiming that the inclusion of the WWF reference "is a blunder perhaps, but maybe of a different kind, because there is indeed plenty of published science warning about drought in the Amazon."

In so doing, he distorts the thrust of the Rowell Moore argument, which claims that "40% of Amazonian forests could react drastically to even a slight reduction in precipitation."

First of all, the figure is entirely unsubstantiated and secondly, although there is plenty of evidence that severe or prolonged drought can damage tracts of forest, there is no good (or any) evidence that a "slight reduction in precipitation" could have the drastic effect predicted.

Of special note, though, is Harrabin's choice of expert to back up his argument. He cites Dr Simon Lewis from Leeds University, who told him: "The IPCC statement is basically correct but poorly written, and bizarrely referenced." The full significance of this will not become apparent until my next post, so this is just a marker ... we will see Lewis in a different light.

Harrabin, though, is forced to concede that there are problems, stating: "It all points to the need for much greater transparency, though that will throw up issues of its own for a body striving to offer a coherent view to policymakers of an issue dominated by risk, uncertainty and values, rather that unambiguous science."

That this is the main problem is wishful thinking on his part. The IPCC is holed below the waterline, and our little BBC man is trying to stem the leaks with a paper tissue.

(Note – I'm starting a new forum thread, as below, and will shut down the others tomorrow, to give us all a fresh start.)

3 posted on 02/13/2010 10:41:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The IPCC made a prominent claim in its 2007 report, again citing the WWF as its authority, that climate change could endanger "up to 40 per cent" of the Amazon rainforest – as iconic to warmists as those Himalayan glaciers and polar bears. This WWF report, it turned out, was co-authored by Andy Rowell, an anti-smoking and food safety campaigner who has worked for WWF and Greenpeace, and contributed pieces to Britain's two most committed environmentalist newspapers. Rowell and his co-author claimed their findings were based on an article in Nature. But the focus of that piece, it emerges, was not global warming at all but the effects of logging.

Another lie exposed.

4 posted on 02/13/2010 10:45:13 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; Desdemona; Little Bill; ..
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

15 posted on 02/14/2010 3:30:23 AM PST by steelyourfaith (FReepers were opposed to Obama even before it was cool to be against Obama.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The bad science just keeps jumping out. Sad. But at least some good people have over the years stood steadfast and did not give up. Now their efforts are paying off. If governments cannot see the serious ramifications of just going along with those that have now admitted they don't know what they had been talking about, well that is another story.
Gotta hop in the tub and get ready for work. Have a good one.
16 posted on 02/14/2010 4:55:02 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Ernest.


19 posted on 02/14/2010 9:20:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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